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who created the creator is what I want to know. That's what separates him from creation, i.e., he's uncreated.
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who created the creator is what I want to know. 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
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TRH, where did the stuff come from that went "bang "? You're asking the wrong guy if you expect to stump me on that. Answer: ultimately, God. I'm not an atheist. Far from it. I'm a believing Christian. God is the creator of all things, either directly, or indirectly. Genesis says that God commanded that the waters and the earth bring forth all living creatures, and the waters and the earth obeyed the command. Science also says that the waters and the earth brought forth all living creatures, but doesn't speculate about God, since that's beyond the scope of science. Thanks, TRH.
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who created the creator is what I want to know. 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. who/what created God? would that be in line with believing in creation?
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When there was a beginning, it was God.
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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When there was a beginning, it was God. on whose timeline? mans?
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Ok. Let us know when you find out what there was before the beginning.
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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When there was a beginning, it was God. on whose timeline? mans? Time is another of God's creations. He exists both within and without time. Before he created it, time didn't exist. To God, all of time is laid out before him like a tapestry, from beginning to end. It's all the present, to him. Past and future only has meaning to created beings.
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Ok. Let us know when you find out what there was before the beginning. That's not for us to understand.
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Ok. Let us know when you find out what there was before the beginning. That's not for us to understand. Exactly. Too many cant grasp their spirit God made living forever, yet some want to play Gus.
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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Those aliens couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.
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The 'universe' could just be an expanding bubble within an infinite multiverse of bubble universe with different physics, some able to support life, others not ....nobody knows.
To say that the universe had to be created but the creator is eternal is setting your own rules and begging the question.
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Ok. Let us know when you find out what there was before the beginning. my point here is that when it comes to God there are concepts that man can't explain and as TRH conveniently types, not for man *to* understand, so to be absolute in anything related to God seems misdirected to me. you have beliefs, not facts - as we all do.
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God gives facts and inconvenient truths.
Those who have a relationship with him know HE exists just as well as those who know you, know you exist.
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 2 Peter 3:8
“For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the Lord.
“As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.”
Isaiah 55:8-9
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all quotes by men in regards to God, alot like here now.
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who created the creator is what I want to know. That's what separates him from creation, i.e., he's uncreated. Sounds like special pleading to me.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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We are saved by grace through FAITH, something the scoffers, mockers, and atheists will never understand.
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But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 2 Peter 3:8
“For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the Lord.
“As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.”
Isaiah 55:8-9 Yep.
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