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pawn shops got lots of them. Not in my state! I've been looking for them for ten years and find nothing! I'm looking for any Savage/stevens M94 because they made millions of them. But I find none. Iver Johnson made the champion and other models. I have one over 100yr.old H&R from the family. I saw one like it at a gun show for $700. I'd buy one a month if I could find them for $150 or less. I've found nothing.
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One problem that some kids (and especially girls) is that they have a tough time holding the gun out to point. When you think about it they are using their non-dominate arm, which is weaker to hold the bulk of the weight. Pumps put more weight out front with the mag tube, etc. Remember too that a pump will have the forearm moved forward and that is a stretch for some kids.
I would suggest you let your daughter hold a couple guns and see what she can comfortably shoulder.
I do think the 28ga is a great choice. Much more useful than the 410 without much more recoil.
I lucked out and found a 28ga Franchi 48 with a 2nd stock that could be cut down to fit. Super light, little recoil, semi-auto so forearm was no reach.
Keep in mind too that this should all be enjoyable for your daughter. No pain, no stress will increase the odds it is a positive experience. Make it fun, not a chore. A couple $$ spent (or wasted) now can pay off dividends in the future.
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My friend has one and it works for his daughter.
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My dad apparently hated me so badly that he sold his .32 Colt auto and bought me an H&R Topper in .410. However, I foiled his evil intent and became quite a good wing shot in spite of (because of?) his attempt to handicap me.
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If you have Academy near you look at yildiz 410 single shot, no hammer $129, they also make a lightweight sxs and over under
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does that yildtz have an ejector?
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Well my train of thought would be skip the .410 and start with a 28ga. I rather give them more to work with than handicap them. Agree, but finding an affordable 28 and ammo is a task.
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All the .410 I’ve seen is $15/box!!
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If you have Academy near you look at yildiz 410 single shot, no hammer $129, they also make a lightweight sxs and over under Oof....that things got a suicide barrel release. Wrong spot for sure.
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and how much is the 28ga? bet its more.
hey...whats wrong with the barrel release? I never saw one.
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We’re talking about a shotgun for a young, small person, intended for squirrels at this time. Why not a new/used h&r/nefa or nice used iver johnson break-action .410? If we were talking about shooting games and birds, then would say differently, but we’re not.
Simple, not too heavy, and in terms of reinforcing handling/safety are pretty good if squirrel hunting. Or rabbits. Less practical imo for getting into bird hunting.
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@Bobski-
I referenced Midway and both can be had for $11’ish. I know I’ve gotten 28’s for $9.99 at SW. The .410’s I’ve seen were at Wally. The barrel release is a trigger in front of the trigger.
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Sandcritter.....I schit you not. Just found a NEF .410 in some local classifieds with a synthetic youth stock and wood full size.
That was a good idea. 😄
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ahhh gotcha. so it looks like a double trigger but its not. Remington imported some cheapo russian single shots with the bbl release (under) the trigger guard. and...with ejectors, and included them in their catalogs. something worth looking at.
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Get an iver Johnson if you can find one they back bored iver Johnson barrels making them the tightest shooting 410 smoothbore available.. I learned that a long time ago.. it will easily kill a turkey at 40 yards if it hasen't been messed with.
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Get an iver Johnson if you can find one they back bored iver Johnson barrels making them the tightest shooting 410 smoothbore available.. I learned that a long time ago.. it will easily kill a turkey at 40 yards if it hasen't been messed with. Please stop the BS: It may with titanium shot. Anything else and Turkeys and .410’s @ 40 is a recipe for more wounding than killing. Make that tungsten.
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Looks like .410 turkey guns are a “thing” now
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And I sure as hell don’t wanna shoot titanium shot.
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My mistake, it would be Tungsten .
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