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Some of you guys need to get out of your "it doesn't make sense to me in my little world so it can't be" mindset....
Agree...Don’t give a fûck either way whether Form embellished on the amount sweat held inside his sleeping bag in the morning. How high or fast he said he and his crew climbed a mountain. A couple years ago Form had a post where he and another instructor were unloading ammo cases which were held within wooden crates. I don’t remember the exact amount, but it was tonnage. IIRC the massive ammo delivery was for 1 month of student and instructor shooting. Aside from Form’s bias against most scopes for mechanics except for SWFA, NF, older S&B’s and Bushnell’s - did he provide more help or harm to other members? Take away the major butthurt some scope owners had over Forms extreme bias against a certain manufacturer. He was always approachable and responsive to PM’s asking for detailed information on the why’s, how come, and comparison on gear. From there it’s up to the member who sent the PM to him to decide if the information was helpful or painful. This thread was generated because of another thread calling Form out directly...I can’t remember reading where Form ever came to anyone’s rescue who was being thrashed rightfully or wrongly across any of the shooting/hunting forums. I figure he was here more of a courtesy to provide assistance to members who were interested in what he was writing about. Or doing threads covering information he was said to receive a lot of requests from member to explore and explain in detail via PM’s I guess the last acid test, at least for me, is could Form run a scope? Understanding the correction for MOA and Mils. Applying shooting solutions for distance, wind, and variants known to unlock a proper shooting solution? I assume yes, because there’s a lot of members who can run a scope properly and a rifle that’s married to it who never seemed to challenge his information. So, again, yes, IMO Form had gained skills that were apparently learned through military training, possibly as a Army Sniper based on a picture he once posted of himself. Does being a former military sniper make someone an expert? Idk, but if the member is still involved in a community of shooters as full time employment. An average person could assume he’s not behind the Bell Curve as most, who shoot weekends, once a month or year for that matter. This entire beat down came about because a member got major redass over his beloved scope manufacturer being called essentially junk... Can’t everyone understand that a scope made by any manufacturer will likely kill something, at a reasonable distance, with a set/forget scope?....Especially for guys who can’t run turrets, and typically kill animals 120yards or closer, of course most scopes can and will do that job. It’s proven by millions of guys who use all different types of set/forget scopes that cost between $29.99 to whatever price someone will pay. The bias Form always took up was usually on the mechanical capabilities, and a scopes long term integrity over the course of it’s lifespan...He would use lifespan based on the number of rounds fired before the scope showed failure rates of X, Y, or Z. I’m not defending Form. I’m just suggesting that he provided more benefit than harm, and if his harm was embellished remarks about the brutality of a hunt, then those who’ve done those type of hunts are probably capable of calling BS and are free to do so, and shouldn’t be slammed for it...That would be up to Form to defend his statement. But to blow a guy up because he doesn’t like an optic you’re married to because it works for you, especially when that scope has failed many others is chicken shît. and even more so if the individual can’t run a turreted scope which is where the majority of Forms unflattering criticism has been directed. 😎 😎
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Wow, I can't believe that second photo. I thought everybody knew, scope tracking tests are much more accurate if you leave the garden hose ON the hanger. Yes, damping is a real thing. It's dampening, my friend. We must be uber-accurate in such matters. So Merriam-Webster is wrong? damp verb damped; damping; damps Definition of damp (Entry 2 of 3) transitive verb 1a : to affect with or as if with a noxious gas : choke b : to diminish the activity or intensity of damping down the causes of inflation liquid damps out compass oscillations c : to check the vibration or oscillation of (something, such as a string or a voltage)Uh...old motorcycle joke. Should have clarified.
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Unfamiliar with it. Please do tell.
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Good post Beaver10. Change a few words and place that at the top of every sub-forum here. We are fast approaching the point of "the inmates are running the asylum".
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So now we lost one of the most experienced contributors to the forum, who communicated helpful information in plain language that all could understand, and he was run off by a couple of jealous individuals with less experience?
Great job.
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Some members of these forums have nothing better to do and like nothing better than to attack others contributing to the forums. This particular attack on Form did not surprise me in the least. It was only a matter of time. It's usually the same "crowd" doing this, one takes the first bite and the rest of the crowd jumps in and they kiss each others ass, seeing who can make the most insulting post while making themselves look self righteous. In fact, shortly you will probably see one or more of them attack this post that I have just written. RJ
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Yes, pretty disgusting really
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Unfortunately public humiliation of this clown posse doesn’t work so I’ve put them on ignore. I figure that cutting of the blood flow will kill the tumors. Disgusting is an appropriate word to use for the action of these guys. It would seem that such a word is a badge of honor for them. I enjoy the I formed posts that Mr Form and other experienced shooters make. Sadly, those who post such information are becoming a shrinking minority and useful information disappears in the swamp of idiocy.
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Rj308!!!!
Exactly!! Bunch of cheese dicks at that. So weird, you think once high school is over you’ll never see that again. But this place is full of those guys. Can’t wait to suck each other’s asses.
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Plenty of bullschitters here; I don’t believe he is one. I will concede your detector is usually pretty accurate, however! factory tikka barrels with 100k rounds through them. Formadillo is an interesting character that adds to the forum, so I still like him even though we disagree quite often. You easily take the 2019 Campfire Dipschit Award...2020 is yours for the taking. Having an opinion and differences is one thing, but you’ve gotta be on of the dumbest/densest clowns on this site. And that’s saying something... Can we have a videography/social media influencer section just for Cummi-dilly?
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Haters gonna hate. Every piece of info I've used from form' has been spot on (swfa, tikka, fl chamberlin, etc)
Oh well I guess boomers need something to do with all their social security time.....
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yeah I do actually like the guy, I don't hate anyone, being on a web forum if you can't see people are individuals with unique things about them and likely are and I would bet amazing people in person, I don't know what to tell you. life is too short to waste any energy disliking people around here. We all have common interests and hobbies, don't mean we have to agree though. You are a [bleep] dumbass, I hope you get ass cancer. It’s ass clowns like you who ruin the Internet. Good work!!!
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yeah I do actually like the guy, I don't hate anyone, being on a web forum if you can't see people are individuals with unique things about them and likely are and I would bet amazing people in person, I don't know what to tell you. life is too short to waste any energy disliking people around here. We all have common interests and hobbies, don't mean we have to agree though. You are a [bleep] dumbass, I hope you get ass cancer. It’s ass clowns like you who ruin the Internet. Good work!!! Dayum. Cumadillo can’t catch a break. lol
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I doubt Formi's absence is due to harassment from other members here. I wouldn't be surprised if he's busy with "work".
Last edited by 4th_point; 02/02/20.
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I doubt Formi's absence is due to harassment from other members here. I wouldn't be surprised if he's busy with "work". Actually, his profile shows he's still been logging in, just not posting for reasons known to him.
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Got it. Forgot that one could track someone that way.
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I’m around- yappers don’t bother me.
Extremely busy for the last couple months with no real time or desire to engage in nonsense. If I can help, the best contact for a while is through PM.
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I’m around- yappers don’t bother me.
Extremely busy for the last couple months with no real time or desire to engage in nonsense. If I can help, the best contact for a while is through PM. Glad all is well with you and you're still available to the members for support, thank you
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I always read and enjoy your posts and knowledge Form. Some of the members here have miserable home lives and vent here at the fire, tearing folks down like they are torn down by their wives and jobs. I pay them no mind as well.
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