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To each their own but I love my G44. I've been shooting USPSA and Steel Challenge with my G34 and it's nice to be able to swap mags and pistol while using the same belt rig.

Nothing is going to match 100% to what you're actually shooting but the G44 comes close enough to most any other Glock that I feel you're still making gains when using it.

It's also an outstanding trainer for kids or females. Have them shoot Steel Challenge with it and as they progress swap out the G44 for a 9mm. And you're not having to buy another $200 belt rig.

It covers a lot of ground adequately IMO.

Good reason to not watch that channel.

But not a good reason to avoid the G44.

deflave,

1. Good to see you around!

2. I think saving money on not having to buy redundant equipment is great. Having a gun that is a good choice for a competition is also great. My point remains that using a G44 is not sufficiently the same as a G19 to make it worth it as a "cheap substitute" for practicing with the G19. (Using the G44 as an introductory gun, is a new point, and I have no arguments against it.)

Hi Jerry,

I agree that newer shooters fail to apply fundamentals, but divide those new shooters into two groups: those that have had some basic instruction and those that haven't. Those that haven't had any need some. Turning to those that have had some basic instruction, why don't they use it? From what I've seen, recoil issues are number one. They do well during dryfire and rimfire but when it comes to centerfire (where recoil is the new variable), it's a whole 'nuther animal. They grip wrong, mash the trigger, etc. etc.

I sold my 1911 conversion, because using the exact same grips, frame and trigger didn't significantly help me train through other issues. The balance was SO off, I felt like I was shooting a new/different gun completely. I tried to like it. I really did, and it helped me in some respects. But, in the end, the benefits of it were insufficient to justify it.

However, I completely agree that the difference in the cost of ammo is the big attraction (and benefit). There is no argument there. Given the upcoming election (along with the possible horrific outcome) we could be seeing a shortage of 9mm ammo, and a $22+ per box price tag when it is available.

Thanks.

I agree with that mostly. But the trigger and mechanics of the gun remaining the same make it a more better option than others IMO. If you're a Glock guy.

Thanks for all the input
I am leaning towards a Walther PPQ after a bit more looking
Has anyone used one, if so what do you think?

I bought a 22 conversion kit for my CZ 75. Turns out it’s the best 22 auto I’ve ever owned but I’ve got a Cajun Gun Works SAO parts kit in the frame so the trigger pull is incredible. Took about 50 rounds to get settled in and then ran perfectly. I’m probably gonna get rid of my MK II now.

If the gun you are training for has a .22 conversion kit, I would suggest that first. Everything the same except recoil. Just don't mix up your mags/barrels.

After that, I'd say that whatever differences there between running two similar but different guns may come back to haunt you. "You do as you practice"...

I'm just guessing here, but it may be that having two guns that feel very different in the hand may help your subconscious avoid getting them confused.
I'm not an experienced trainer, and I'm not claiming to have any special insight or experience.

Thats a decision that only you can make.

I've heard this more than a couple of times...

Don't need another 'Trainer' but would really like to try one.



Felt the same way after getting my Nelson 1911 Conversion.


Jerry

There is a lot of really good information here, thanks to all that have contributed

ruger is synonymous with 22lr, and v.v. a ruger sr22 should be high on the consideration list.

Jeez mate you know how to cost a bloke some money
I just bought a CZ Sp-01 and 22 conversion kit 👍
Thanks also to the others that recommended a conversion

No votes for Browning Buckmark?

I've been shooting mine for more than a couple decades with no issues.

Some years back my hunting buddy and I were shooting .22s on a neighbor's ranch. There was a steel "T" fence post on a hillside about 35 yards away. The ground around the fence post was bare and angling up and away like a target berm. We decided to try and hit the post, aiming about a foot above the ground. We could hear out hits and the bare dirt behind the post allowed us to see our misses. Two or three times I was able to hit the with post 8 of 10 shots. Liked the pistol before that and have liked it even better since.

My buddy has a Ruger .22 pistol. Even though it is an older model, it is an excellent pistol and the new ones are even better.

Take me off ignore.

MK II Ruger with a few custom touches. Been shooting this daily for a couple of months now.
Bob





Kensight rear; a copy of the old BoMar


Front and rear strap stippled, trigger is a steel Clark set for 2.2 lbs

I bet it shoots pretty well. Grin...

When I was getting my Blackhawk - the guy at the store was super high on the Ruger MK IV 22/45 with a suppressor. Said the giggle factor was off the charts.

and he wasn't wrong.....

Yeah - said that they do a TON of business with them and the Ruger suppressor.

They even have a legal dude there to help with trusts.

You're not on ignore, but I didn't see your post.

Had a Browning Challenger before the Buckmark. Sent it to Browning for repair and they sent me the Buckmark in return. Circa 1995. Thank you, Browning.