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Got a trip scheduled in June on Delta to Johannesburg then SAA to Port Elizabeth. Just got word that SSA has canceled all flights. Appears routes will be taken over by Mango Airlines. BUT Mango is not approved to carry firearms. Will have to wait and see if they want to jump through the necessary hoops for that approval.
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Airlink is taking over the routes at SAA is leaving. Airlink does carry firearms.
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Hope this is correct. My outfitter in SA is the source of my info.
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SAA has been crapping in their nest for the last 15 or so years. Where once it was a pleasure to travel SAA, even in coach class, they now act as though customers are cattle on the truck.
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Thanks for that link! We paid the modest fee to Travel with Guns to book our flights because they presumably will help us sort this out. I am sure things will become clearer, but it another interesting aspect of dealing in Africa. 😉
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Here is a copy of the SAA press release. If you go to the SA Air Link and SA Express web sites and look at the terms and conditions of their baggage handling and specifically firearms and ammo carriage, they both will carry firearms and ammo with some extra fees fo SOME domestic airports.
TRAVEL ALERT IF USING SOUTH AFRICA AIRWAYS
Feb 6, 2019 - SAA News Release
Changes to SAA’s Network
Following a careful analysis of SAA’s liquidity challenges and after consultations with all relevant stakeholders, the BRPs have identified which routes will be retained to drive the restructured national carrier towards profitability.
SAA will continue to operate all international services between Johannesburg and Frankfurt, London Heathrow, New York, Perth and Washington via Accra.
Regional services to be retained include from Johannesburg to Blantyre, Dar es Salaam, Harare, Kinshasa, Lagos, Lilongwe, Lusaka, Maputo, Mauritius, Nairobi, Victoria Falls, Livingston and Windhoek.
On 29th February 2020, SAA will close the following regional and international services from Johannesburg to Abidjan via Accra, Entebbe, Guangzhou, Hong Kong, Luanda, Munich, Ndola, and Sao Paulo.
On the domestic route network, SAA will continue to serve Cape Town on a reduced basis.
All other domestic destinations, including Durban, East London and Port Elizabeth, will cease to be operated by SAA on 29th February 2020. Domestic routes operated by Mango will not be affected by the changes.
All customers booked on any cancelled international and regional routes will receive a full refund. Customers booked on cancelled domestic flights will be re-accommodated on services operated by Mango.
SAA does not intend to make any further significant network changes. Passengers and travel agents can therefore feel confident about booking future travel with South African Airways.
The flight schedule for February remains unchanged. Please consult the website for further information.
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It was one of the world's premier airlines back in the day. You know, before the groids took it over...
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Holy cow!
If anyone needed proof that RSA has hit the tipping point toward complete africanization, this is just another indicator that goes along with rolling black outs and internal security/crime issues and land grabbing.
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TWG booked me on SA Airlink for July 2020 JNB to Bulawayo. I sent them an e-mail this afternoon asking about projected status of that route. I’ll post the answer as soon as I receive it.
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SAA has been crapping in their nest for the last 15 or so years. Where once it was a pleasure to travel SAA, even in coach class, they now act as though customers are cattle on the truck. Last April, my driver I hired through Air 2000 to guide me around Johannesburg on a long layover predicted SAA was on the edge of collapse. He claimed it was political interference and corruption, like Biden and the Ukraine.
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Spoke with TWG today. They’ve not been notified about Bulawayo so far. However they anticipate further route realignments in the future. I’ll post as more info becomes available.
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It was one of the world's premier airlines back in the day. You know, before the groids took it over... Last time I flew SAA was back in 64 and it was a pleasure to be on their planes at that time. Cheers NC
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It was one of the world's premier airlines back in the day. You know, before the groids took it over... was one of the worlds great nations back in the day, you know, before the communist/ groids took it over
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Get a hold of Lorrie at "Travel Express" ....They specialize in Africa hunting trips..We have booked twice with her and she also hunts there herself....Always up on latest info.....She has an ad on "Africa Hunting "...or type in...good luck...
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Get a hold of Lorrie at "Travel Express" ....They specialize in Africa hunting trips..We have booked twice with her and she also hunts there herself....Always up on latest info.....She has an ad on "Africa Hunting "...or type in...good luck...
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Thanks for this suggestion! We booked our flights with Travel With Guns, and they also specialize in these kind of trips. They are monitoring the situation. I am optimistic something will work out. But it is another reminder of the complications you can run into with international hunting.
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Good news. Travel with Guns is rebooking us on SA Express and Airlink. We’ll be able to carry our guns. It was certainly worth the modest fee to book through them jus in case something like this happened.
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Thank you for the update. I’m hoping that there’re no more issues for a June trip.
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While I'll never fly SAA voluntarily again, (The last time I used their "services" they lost my guns for four days!) what does bother me is that they haul a lot of the trophies out of southern Africa. Emirates, I think, handles the rest.
If SAA goes down, it'll take even longer to get your stuff home.
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I am watching this as well, supposed to fly into Bulawayo then out of Vic Falls this Sept. Big news!
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Good news. Travel with Guns is rebooking us on SA Express and Airlink. We’ll be able to carry our guns. It was certainly worth the modest fee to book through them jus in case something like this happened. I am going to have to look into these folks services. I have not been over there in a few years and while I used to know the SAA routes etc. pretty well (and SAA was a terrific airline at one time, too!) the world is changing.
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While I'll never fly SAA voluntarily again, (The last time I used their "services" they lost my guns for four days!) what does bother me is that they haul a lot of the trophies out of southern Africa. Emirates, I think, handles the rest.
If SAA goes down, it'll take even longer to get your stuff home. My trophies were shipped through African Hunting Gazette Shipping. They used Turkish Airways from Johannesburg to Toronto and then Cargojet from Toronto to Calgary.
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Good news. Travel with Guns is rebooking us on SA Express and Airlink. We’ll be able to carry our guns. It was certainly worth the modest fee to book through them jus in case something like this happened. I am going to have to look into these folks services. I have not been over there in a few years and while I used to know the SAA routes etc. pretty well (and SAA was a terrific airline at one time, too!) the world is changing. What's up, you ol' piece of sheit?
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Who let the con man back?
Did we trade for deflave? If we did we sure got screwed!
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I am watching this as well, supposed to fly into Bulawayo then out of Vic Falls this Sept. Big news! Hey Mark, is there a go fund me link we can follow to help you with your Covid? Just an FYI, If you get the old lady to take her top off in that Bikini you'd make more money.........
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Great, just great, now the Africa Forums have been infected by the Corona virus AKA internet kooks...
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I am watching this as well, supposed to fly into Bulawayo then out of Vic Falls this Sept. Big news! Hey Mark, is there a go fund me link we can follow to help you with your Covid? Just an FYI, If you get the old lady to take her top off in that Bikini you'd make more money......... LOL. You're bad! Go sit in the corner! 
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I am watching this as well, supposed to fly into Bulawayo then out of Vic Falls this Sept. Big news! Hey Mark, is there a go fund me link we can follow to help you with your Covid? Just an FYI, If you get the old lady to take her top off in that Bikini you'd make more money......... Lol
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Great, just great, now the Africa Forums have been infected by the Corona virus AKA internet kooks... Just making sure he doesn't funk anyone over here ever again. If that's kooky so be it.
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Great, just great, now the Africa Forums have been infected by the Corona virus AKA internet kooks... Just making sure he doesn't funk anyone over here ever again. If that's kooky so be it. You misread or I worded it poorly. My apologies regardless.
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I am watching this as well, supposed to fly into Bulawayo then out of Vic Falls this Sept. Big news! Hey Mark, is there a go fund me link we can follow to help you with your Covid? Just an FYI, If you get the old lady to take her top off in that Bikini you'd make more money......... LOL. You're bad! Go sit in the corner! Sheesh, and I had worried about if he was still alive. Im surprised with his health problems he's still alive, much less flying to Afreaka in Corona season. He must have gotten a good deal on the truck, or maybe AA has made money on the side. I guess his dad may have had a good life ins payout.
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Great, just great, now the Africa Forums have been infected by the Corona virus AKA internet kooks... Just making sure he doesn't funk anyone over here ever again. If that's kooky so be it. You misread or I worded it poorly. My apologies regardless. I assumed you were replying to me Jorge, it's my fault for assuming. No apologies needed my friend, all is good. Just an FYI, wife says I'm crazy as fuqk so there is that..........
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I am watching this as well, supposed to fly into Bulawayo then out of Vic Falls this Sept. Big news! Hey Mark, is there a go fund me link we can follow to help you with your Covid? Just an FYI, If you get the old lady to take her top off in that Bikini you'd make more money......... If she pops her top, I’m looking. Just saying.
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Yeah, it was a comment "in general", meaning that a lot of folks who either never visit here or have nothing to contribute (or both) will probably show up to the train wreck ANY thread involving this POS will attract, which of course, none of us can control, as he was the OP....
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Yeah, it was a comment "in general", meaning that a lot of folks who either never visit here or have nothing to contribute (or both) will probably show up to the train wreck ANY thread involving this POS will attract, which of course, none of us can control, as he was the OP.... I truly don’t understand. I am the OP on this thread. Is the Africa forum off limits to report that South Africa Airlines cancelled flights between Joburg and Port Elizabeth?
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I am watching this as well, supposed to fly into Bulawayo then out of Vic Falls this Sept. Big news! Hey Mark, is there a go fund me link we can follow to help you with your Covid? Just an FYI, If you get the old lady to take her top off in that Bikini you'd make more money......... LOL. You're bad! Go sit in the corner! I guess his dad may have had a good life ins payout. I'm sure there was a double payment for cases of death by murder
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Yeah, it was a comment "in general", meaning that a lot of folks who either never visit here or have nothing to contribute (or both) will probably show up to the train wreck ANY thread involving this POS will attract, which of course, none of us can control, as he was the OP.... I truly don’t understand. I am the OP on this thread. Is the Africa forum off limits to report that South Africa Airlines cancelled flights between Joburg and Port Elizabeth? No sir, not you. My apologies. we are talking about a snake oil salesman that needs to be in jail.. sorry
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Yeah, it was a comment "in general", meaning that a lot of folks who either never visit here or have nothing to contribute (or both) will probably show up to the train wreck ANY thread involving this POS will attract, which of course, none of us can control, as he was the OP.... I truly don’t understand. I am the OP on this thread. Is the Africa forum off limits to report that South Africa Airlines cancelled flights between Joburg and Port Elizabeth? No sir, not you. My apologies. we are talking about a snake oil salesman that needs to be in jail.. sorry Thanks!
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