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Hawkeye’s thread about the map got me thinking. Most of us, self included, blame teachers for the sorry shape of our recent graduates. But thinking back, I was blessed with some very good teachers who made a difference in my life, and how I look at things. In first grade I had Mrs Hammers. She was nearing retirement, but I remember her reading bible stories to us. I’m sure she prayed for each of her students. 2nd grade was Mrs Dull. I was in the second class she ever taught. Another one who took the time to care and nurture. Miss. Byers taught 4th grade. I know we were her first class. She recognized my interest in history and really encouraged my studies. Very young and pretty, I had a crush on her. I think most of the boys did. In high school I had Mr Gregg, who taught English and Reading. He and I had many shared interest, hunting, guns and history. He always hand picked books for me from his own collection. Vocational Agriculture was my major in high school, mainly because it had the best shop. Mr Gayman was fresh out of West Virginia U, but his family had a big local farm so he knew more than most teachers. Me and Larry Hyde always had some big mechanical project going, and Mr Gayman taught me an awful lot, in school and out. He’s still a friend of mine. Some, maybe most were just there to fill a chair and run a class, but these and a couple others really took the time to make a difference in some of us. 7mm
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Hawkeye’s thread about the map got me thinking. Most of us, self included, blame teachers for the sorry shape of our recent graduates. Teachers are a symptom, not the cause. Parenting first and foremost. 100%. Period. A lousy teacher maintins their job because parents dont hold administration responsible. Parents run school districts. The district becomes what the parents int eh community wnat, and one or two squeeky wheels goes a long way. Ultimately, parenting and parental apathy is the root cause of any of our societal problems.
Quit giving in inch by inch then looking back to lament the mile behind ya and wonder how to preserve those few feet left in front of ya. They'll never stop until they're stopped. That's a fact.
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Mr. Wood was our Ag/Shop/Welding/Small Engine teacher, and more importantly, our FFA Advisor. That man had a big impact on a lot of lives and I'm not sure he realized to what extent. We pushed his buttons and tested him, but he was simply a great person and the right man for the job. There were others but he had the greatest impact.
Mercy ceases to be a virtue when it enables further injustice. -Brent Weeks
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Those day are long gone.
Today's Union teachers are protected from dismissal for all sorts of reasons one being poor performance.
Teachers of old taught, today's teachers are activists, spreaders of propaganda and indoctrinate.
They no longer teach the basics because they don't have to. They are typical Union protected public employees.
They are more concerned with Political Correctness, Zero Tolerance and summers off then they are about actually educating.
They are one of the top three reasons why America's youth are drawn to Socialism and Communism.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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Hawkeye’s thread about the map got me thinking. Most of us, self included, blame teachers for the sorry shape of our recent graduates. Teachers are a symptom, not the cause. Parenting first and foremost. 100%. Period. A lousy teacher maintins their job because parents dont hold administration responsible. Parents run school districts. The district becomes what the parents int eh community wnat, and one or two squeeky wheels goes a long way. Ultimately, parenting and parental apathy is the root cause of any of our societal problems. Unions RUN school districts.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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You can't think back and see what's happening now. Back and now are 2 totally different things. Teachers recently out of colleges are far more indoctrinated than older teachers were. The education climate is radically different that what it was 20 years ago, and that's not for the good.
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The teacher factories are turning out democratic socialists by the millions...every year. You, me, can't send our traditionally raised children to the colleges and universities for the minimum four year indoctrination of Marx and Engels and expect to get the same child back. Very few young brains can resist 4 or 5 years of dogma and peer pressure. The tenured professors of today were the Antifa goons of the '60's and 70's. I don't have a clue what a concerned parent can actually do. Fire (prolly impossible) a teacher for being unmotivated, incompetent, or politically biased? He/she will be replaced by another clone from the factory, odds are. Maybe some kind of parent review board on new hires? I just don't know.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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I was lucky my parents had my back if I was right about an issue. They also had the teachers back if I messed up. Lot of rich kids in my parochial school who liked to bully. Plenty of fights defending myself, but never missed a day due to suspension.
Had some truly outstanding teachers and some not so great administrators.
Mr Rathe was superb. He taught math and more importantly how to reason and think. If you couldn't answer "Why?", you didn't understand the subject. He didn't have many multiple choice tests. Good man, blessed to have known him. RIP
For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."
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It’s our responsibility as parents to make sure our kids learn what’s important. I said that in Hawkeye’s thread. Just as a cop has no responsibility to protect you, a teacher can’t make anybody learn. But there are several I’ve had that truly cared, and that’s why I started this conversation. I wanted to start something more positive. 7mm
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Some of the shiite that's taught, assignments given, and comments made by teachers and administrators would curl some of you older guys' hair. The entire thought process is hosed, in my opinion. They don't seem to enjoy when I come to visit.
Broncos are officially the worst team in the nation this year.
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Hawkeye’s thread about the map got me thinking. Most of us, self included, blame teachers for the sorry shape of our recent graduates. Teachers are a symptom, not the cause. Parenting first and foremost. 100%. Period. A lousy teacher maintins their job because parents dont hold administration responsible. The system is designed to keep parents in the dark. Any thing that looks like it was designed to keep parents informed is simply the minimum so the schools can say "we tried".
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We used to walk out of drafting class to the parking lot and sit in Mr Trekell’s car and smoke all his ciggs, took his car apart and brought his steering wheel and hubcaps in and hung em on the wall. Superglued all the crap to his desk, his little fancy machined aluminum paper weights, we superglued them to the chalk board, pull out the drafting table draws and spit chewin tobacco juice in there. Took his grade book changed everything to A. Had an epic snowball fight in drafting class. He got drilled right in the side of the head.
He didn’t rat us out cause he knew we’d beat his ass.
He started the feud cussing us, dropping f-bombs, the first day and trying to act like Sgt Hartman, acting all cocky. With a fuggin porn Star mustache at that.
I seen him about 10 yrs after high school, he was delivering mail for USPS. I said wassup dude, he acted like he didn’t know me.
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My question is what teachers are teaching these days. I work with a scout troop, ages 11 to 15. These boys seem to know no history, no math, they have very poor reading skills not a lot of anything.
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My question is what teachers are teaching these days. I work with a scout troop, ages 11 to 15. These boys seem to know no history, no math, not a lot of anything. How do you go about making sure that No Child Gets Left Behind?? Make sure the curriculum is simple enough that all the dumbasses can pass.
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Kids running the class and bullying the teachers are a big part of the problem. Not something I’d brag about, but that’s just me. We had one who had a nice car, and he tried to talk cars with us Motörhead’s but he didn’t know anything. We joked around at his expense some, but I was taught by my parents to respect people. I was hoping for some positive stories, but this has already gone downhill far enough. 7mm
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He wasn’t a ‘people person’.
Post office is the best place he could’ve landed. We just showed him the way.
He should’ve sent us all letters thanking us.
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The shop teacher called me out once.
He had enough of the constant teasing I guess.
He didn't think that him banging a female student (high fives!) was near as funny as I thought it was.
Especially during one of his "integrity" speeches.
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Our black asst principal was banging an English teacher. Her husband was the band teacher also there at the school. What a cuck.
Everybody in the school knew the deal and the asst principal had no control over students. It was such a screwed up deal. Kids would kick the fugg out of his oak door he always kept shut. We didn’t know the term mudshark back then.
So much for positive role models.
All my elementary and middle school teachers were mostly great, complete opposite of the shîtbirds in highschool.
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I had at least two that were borderline on the better looking girls. It was a different time back then, but I bet today they’d get reprimanded at the very least. I always thought it was kinda sickening to see a 35 year old flirting with a high school girl. Me and another guy were working at a school, and he was ogling the cheerleaders at practice. I said to him, “Doug, didn’t your daughter graduate from here two years ago?”. Not to be preachy, but a little respect is a wonderful thing to have. 7mm
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Hawkeye’s thread about the map got me thinking. Most of us, self included, blame teachers for the sorry shape of our recent graduates. Teachers are a symptom, not the cause. Parenting first and foremost. 100%. Period. A lousy teacher maintins their job because parents dont hold administration responsible. Parents run school districts. The district becomes what the parents int eh community wnat, and one or two squeeky wheels goes a long way. Ultimately, parenting and parental apathy is the root cause of any of our societal problems. Unions RUN school districts. You are ignorant and should keep quiet about what you don’t know. Look in the mirror if you want to know what is wrong with schools. Schooling starts at home. Schools went downhill when corporal punishment went out of favor. Police have to be called when little Johnny won’t get out out of his seat because the teacher can’t snatch him up and bust his ass. Kids don’t understand their place anymore.
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