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Re: Shazam #2 aalf #14622039 03/01/20
Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,834 To Close to Milwaukee; To Far ... WiFowler Campfire Tracker
WiFowler Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,834 To Close to Milwaukee; To Far ...	Originally Posted by aalf Brings new meaning to levelling a scope. I never thought I'd grow up to be a grumpy old man, but I did, and I'm killin' it.

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Re: Shazam #2 WiFowler #14622497 03/01/20
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,135 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger
OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,135 S.W. Wis.	Originally Posted by WiFowler Originally Posted by aalf Brings new meaning to levelling a scope. Or....... like I usually say...... "Excuse Me While I Whip This Out"

Re: Shazam #2 aalf #14623650 03/02/20
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 11,322 Middle/West Tennessee P pullit Campfire Outfitter
pullit Campfire Outfitter P Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 11,322 Middle/West Tennessee	Did you loose any cases this time, or do you have the process down pat? They look good.... I may not be smart but I can lift heavy objects I have a shotgun so I have no need for a 30-06.....

Re: Shazam #2 pullit #14627695 03/03/20
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,135 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger
OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,135 S.W. Wis.	Originally Posted by pullit Did you loose any cases this time, or do you have the process down pat? They look good.... Thanks..... This time, I cut the necks 1st when they were still 6.5, then did a 2nd cut after I necked them down to 6mm. Seemed to have eliminated the worst of the runout issues I had on the first go around. I did screw up several early on that cut too far up the neck and dug in a deep ring. I filed down the leading edge of the cutter to stop that. Probably trashed after the first firing on those.

Re: Shazam #2 aalf #14633445 03/05/20
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,135 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger
OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,135 S.W. Wis.	Finally, the first 50* day of the year let me get into one spot to get 'er out for initial testing. Set the target up at 200, set shlt up, and commenced to making empties: First up was R-26 with 110 Sierra SMK's. As I went up in powder, ES went down, but groups went up. As big as the BC's are, I was really hoping that these would perform, but it wasn't to be. I did get them to 3370, and pressure was starting to show. Next up, R-26 with Hornady 108 ELD's. This combo was the best in the first barrel, and it didn't disappoint this time either. Ran them to 3375, and that was the sweet spot, a 3 shot group of .395"!!! ES was higher than I like, but you gotta like that group at 200 yards. Nice to go home on a high note.....

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Re: Shazam #2 aalf #14633601 03/05/20
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 11,322 Middle/West Tennessee P pullit Campfire Outfitter
pullit Campfire Outfitter P Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 11,322 Middle/West Tennessee	Man that is a great group at 200! How bad was the ES and SD? Do you think the 2" in barrel length between the Shazam #1 and #2 changed vel by over 200 FPS with the 108's? I may not be smart but I can lift heavy objects I have a shotgun so I have no need for a 30-06.....

Re: Shazam #2 pullit #14633646 03/05/20
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,135 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger
OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,135 S.W. Wis.	Originally Posted by pullit Man that is a great group at 200! Thanks, I thought for sure I'd shank the third shot. Originally Posted by pullit How bad was the ES and SD? Those 3 shots had 27 ES, but I ran 10 over the screens later, 1st five had a 25 ES, all 10 bumped it to 29 for ES. Hopefully once fired brass brings it down, we'll see. Originally Posted by pullit Do you think the 2" in barrel length between the Shazam #1 and #2 changed vel by over 200 FPS with the 108's? The accuracy load in the first barrel shot them at 3425, but with a half grain less powder, and the 2" longer tube. Not sure what, if any, increase I may see when I get a few more rounds down it.

Re: Shazam #2 aalf #14633880 03/05/20
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,135 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger
OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,135 S.W. Wis.	Day two, went to my other spot that I could finally get into. Thought this spot would work better with the west wind of the day, as I shoot mostly a west to east direction. But of course the wind was an annoying right to left quartering away, that would let up, or reverse, occasionally if you weren't paying attention. I did tie flagging tape on a couple of sticks for wind flags, and stuck them in the snow, 1 at 50', the other at about 75 yards. Target was at 200 again: First up today was H-1000 with 105 Hybrids. Best results were at 3440 fps, with a flat 1" group, and 7 ES. Another grain showed pressure , and tickled 3500 at 1.2". Next up was R-26 with the Hybrids again. Ho hum results, and not worth the effort. Last test was the winner from day one, the R-26/108 load, with two 5 shot groups. On group one, 1st shot went right in a letup, last four went into 1.2". Last group I tried to watch the flags closer, but still lost one to a quick letup I thought I could shoot through. Five went 1.4", four went .75", three went into a tidy .350". I've got 18 more loaded to test further out to see how they hold up, and five more of the H-1000/Hybrid combo to see if they can repeat.

Re: Shazam #2 aalf #14635960 03/06/20
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,135 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger
OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,135 S.W. Wis.	Night before last, I took it out to try and smack a coyote before our dwindling snow disappeared for good. The bigger Nightforce wasn't a hindrance, as I went to a fairly open spot, and could have been an advantage if I had a hanger upper. Unfortunately, despite over an hour of persuasion, I couldn't convince Wile-E something was dying in the ditch, or join his friends in celebration. The Spot: On Point:

Re: Shazam #2 aalf #14636253 03/06/20
Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 1,187 Michigan M mibowhunter Campfire Regular
mibowhunter Campfire Regular M Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 1,187 Michigan	Some good shooting and a sweet rig ! TB, CWD and Covid-19 , free so far.....

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Re: Shazam #2 aalf #14641925 03/08/20
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,135 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger
OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,135 S.W. Wis.

Re: Shazam #2 aalf #14644543 03/09/20
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 11,322 Middle/West Tennessee P pullit Campfire Outfitter
pullit Campfire Outfitter P Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 11,322 Middle/West Tennessee	That is one good looking rig, and it looks like your loads are coming together nicely as well I may not be smart but I can lift heavy objects I have a shotgun so I have no need for a 30-06.....

Re: Shazam #2 aalf #14644810 03/09/20
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,245 Oklahoma G gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana
gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana G Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,245 Oklahoma	Very NICE! You'll get on a coyote soon. Trump Won!

Re: Shazam #2 aalf #14651494 03/11/20
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,135 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger
OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,135 S.W. Wis.	So yesterday, I mounted up the new Leupold XV5 HD 3-15x44 with the Firedot duplex to replace the NXS. Set the target at just under 100 yards to bore sight it and shoot one round. Dialed the scope, then moved the target to the 225 yard mark for a zero. After spending some time on JBM, I settled on the 225 zero rather than my normal 200. With that, it gave me even 100 yard increment MOA numbers out to 1K, all except 700, which is 7.5 MOA. Also, it kept the bullet's highest point to 225 yards at 1.4", which was a consideration for calling coyotes. The light wind was kind of fickle, and mirage was a bitch. I shot 2 rounds, and couldn't see the impacts, so I put it away and concentrated on loads for the other gun. On the next break, I went down to check the target, and both shots were side by side, a little high and right. Went back, set the gun back up, moved the scope two clicks down & a click left, and fired a shot. I thought I could see it at 3:00 o'clock in the bull? Took a 2nd shot, and it looked like the hole got bigger through the mirage. Wow, really? 3rd shot I was sure I could see it dropped a little from the 1st two, but just wasn't sure. After walking down, it confirmed what I thought I was seeing......

Re: Shazam #2 aalf #14652152 03/11/20
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,826 Montana 6 6MMWASP Campfire Tracker
6MMWASP Campfire Tracker 6 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,826 Montana	Good shotin Al. That one should get to come to Montana in November

Re: Shazam #2 aalf #14653050 03/11/20
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 11,322 Middle/West Tennessee P pullit Campfire Outfitter
pullit Campfire Outfitter P Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 11,322 Middle/West Tennessee	That is a sure nuff shooter at 225 yards. What bullet did you settle on, I know you were playing with 105,108, and 110s and maybe others I may not be smart but I can lift heavy objects I have a shotgun so I have no need for a 30-06.....

Re: Shazam #2 6MMWASP #14653094 03/11/20
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,135 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger
OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,135 S.W. Wis.	Originally Posted by 6MMWASP Good shootin Al. That one should get to come to Montana in November Thanks Mike. It just may, except I'm re-doing my 6.5-284, so it'll be a toss up on who gets to go.

Re: Shazam #2 pullit #14653140 03/11/20
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,135 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger
OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,135 S.W. Wis.	Originally Posted by pullit That is a sure nuff shooter at 225 yards. What bullet did you settle on, I know you were playing with 105,108, and 110s and maybe others Settled on the original load that shot so good right out of the gate, R-26 with the 108's. The barrel is picking up a little speed, and extreme spread is going down. Original speed was 3366, then each time gained a little, 3373, 3374, 3376, 3386, 3393, 3404, and finally 3405. Last 6 shots had a 10 for ES, vs mid to upper 20's at the beginning. Not sure if some can be attributed to shooting brass now on it's 2nd firing. Groups size has not been affected. Once the weather straightens out, I'll be able to stretch it's legs.

Re: Shazam #2 aalf #14653205 03/11/20
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 20,829 2 2ndwind Campfire Ranger
2ndwind Campfire Ranger 2 Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 20,829	Originally Posted by aalf Night before last, I took it out to try and smack a coyote before our dwindling snow disappeared for good. The bigger Nightforce wasn't a hindrance, as I went to a fairly open spot, and could have been an advantage if I had a hanger upper. Unfortunately, despite over an hour of persuasion, I couldn't convince Wile-E something was dying in the ditch, or join his friends in celebration. The Spot: On Point: Cool. What tripod rest is that? Please don't feed the trolls!

Re: Shazam #2 2ndwind #14653438 03/11/20
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,135 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger
OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,135 S.W. Wis.	Originally Posted by 2ndwind Cool. What tripod rest is that? Thanks.....this one, without the center column, with a Hog Saddle on top. https://www.leofoto.com/products_detail.php?id=227 Not tall enough to stand and shoot with, but not needed for my coyote hunting, as I'm always seated. I have a two taller Innorels for that if need be, just move the Hog Saddle to either.

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