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maybe we need a campfire member vote on all time campfire favorite hunting cartridge ? my vote is 30-06
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I don't know what it is, but I just like reading about 30cal rounds. All of them seem to have a redeeming quality about them.
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[quote=Rossimp]Thats why I own a 338 Win as my next step up. However don’t sell the 308 Win short at hurling 200 gr bullets at 2,450 fps..... Well....... that's not too far from a 170 gr bullet from a 30-30 Give me an 06, thank you. ————————————— [quote=Rossimp]Yeah Jerry they are pretty close a .308 Spitzer out of the 308 WCF at 2,450 fps has more energy at 200 yards than the 30-30 WCF 170 FP at 2,200 has at the muzzle. At 250 yards the 308 WCF maintains 1,960 fps, 8" of drop and 1,700 ft-lbs of energy. Of course the 30-30 WCF is close by at 250 yards with 1,330 fps, 14" of drop and 690 ft-lbs of energy. Yep two peas in a pod. C'mon man. —————————————— Congrats !! I dangled the bait man.
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Certainly the 30-06 is a great cartridge and I consider it overpowered for much of the big game it is used on.
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No argument from me. I do most of my big game hunting with an '06. Whitetails, blacktails, muleys, elk, sheep and antelope as well as coyotes and other misc.
Like a lot of all arounds it is a compromise of sorts.
It is a bit more than needed for deer. I have used smaller and larger rigs but the platforms my '06'sare on draw me back. Among others, I have used a .308, .300 savage, .243, .250 Savage, .35 Whelen and hopefully soon a 6.5 Creedmoor. Of those, I think a .300 Savage 150 gr is near ideal.
For branch bull elk seasons I usually take my .338.
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Certainly the 30-06 is a great cartridge and I consider it overpowered for much of the big game it is used on. And I'll never understand why that is a negative?
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Convince me otherwise! Just seems like all the newer chamberings over the years are trying to be what the good ol 30-06 always has been .... versatile and dependable as a chambering can be. I’ll never turn my back on the 06! Yes, but it's boring as heII...just as the 243 and 270 are. Just about every jackleg in the deer camp has one.
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Certainly the 30-06 is a great cartridge and I consider it overpowered for much of the big game it is used on. And I'll never understand why that is a negative? Then why not just use a 416 Rem Mag and be done with it?
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Convince me otherwise! Just seems like all the newer chamberings over the years are trying to be what the good ol 30-06 always has been .... versatile and dependable as a chambering can be. I’ll never turn my back on the 06! Yes, but it's boring as heII...just as the 243 and 270 are. Just about every jackleg in the deer camp has one. Both correct statements! Shoot what pleases ya.
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Certainly the 30-06 is a great cartridge and I consider it overpowered for much of the big game it is used on. And I'll never understand why that is a negative? Then why not just use a 416 Rem Mag and be done with it? Really ? Jerry
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Ever notice that these debates about "best this or that" or "X is better than Y" tend to occur during the winter doldrums here on the 'Fire? Must be the "Cabin Fever Virus" at work!
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That's right Gnoahhh and while they are all arguing and jerking their meat over the how boring the 30-06 is. I'll be working on the press fixing the last of my virgin LC52 & LC54 brass primer pockets. MB
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Certainly the 30-06 is a great cartridge and I consider it overpowered for much of the big game it is used on. And I'll never understand why that is a negative? Then why not just use a 416 Rem Mag and be done with it? Why should I get a 416 when i already have a 375?
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Certainly the 30-06 is a great cartridge and I consider it overpowered for much of the big game it is used on. And I'll never understand why that is a negative? Then why not just use a 416 Rem Mag and be done with it? Why should I get a 416 when i already have a 375? Then why not just use the 375 and be done with it? Why waste your time with a 30-06?
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Certainly the 30-06 is a great cartridge and I consider it overpowered for much of the big game it is used on. And I'll never understand why that is a negative? Then why not just use a 416 Rem Mag and be done with it? Why should I get a 416 when i already have a 375? Then why not just use the 375 and be done with it? Why waste your time with a 30-06? I wanted to do just that this past year but my brother begged me to borrow it. He's infatuated with the 375 H&H and didn't have a rifle. I was dumb enough to let him and he dropped the rifle and scratched it up. Maybe this year but I have too much that's begging to be used. Part of me would like to ditch everything and just use the 375 though. Scratches and all.
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I would not try to convince you otherwise. There are three 30-06 rifles in my collection. I am still considering adding another.lol. For some folks I guess old habits die hard and there is nothing new under the sun. Nor is there that much better I may add. Modern day regulations aside,30-06 has taken every animal on the planet-and probably still does. Sure there are better performing cartridges at long range. And I even deviated from tried and true cartridges once and bought two 325wsm rifles. Yet every time I consider another cartridge, I find myself thinking: maybe I should just get another 30-06. I just can't seem to get away from that cartridge. Who knows maybe I'll get myself to buy a rifle in a 6.5 caliber. But I already know the 30-06 will haunt me while making the final decision. Seriously-lol.
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I would love to hear some real life stories about the 300 Savage. It might be the perfect deer hunting round for closer quarters. Attached is a link to a pretty stupid, but entertaining 30 cal article. http://mikestexashunt-fish.com/a-30-caliber-is-a-30-caliber-is-a-30-caliber/
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I would not try to convince you otherwise. There are three 30-06 rifles in my collection. I am still considering adding another.lol. For some folks I guess old habits die hard and there is nothing new under the sun. Nor is there that much better I may add. Modern day regulations aside,30-06 has taken every animal on the planet-and probably still does. Sure there are better performing cartridges at long range. And I even deviated from tried and true cartridges once and bought two 325wsm rifles. Yet every time I consider another cartridge, I find myself thinking: maybe I should just get another 30-06. I just can't seem to get away from that cartridge. Who knows maybe I'll get myself to buy a rifle in a 6.5 caliber. But I already know the 30-06 will haunt me while making the final decision. Seriously-lol. Vinootz, I purchased a really sweet Browning Carbon Pro Tungsten in 6.5 Creedmoor about a year ago and that chambering just isn’t doing it for me. I’m still crazy about the 30-06! Creedmoor just don’t have the punch like the ol 06!
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I will say the 06 is the best middle of the road chamber there is. It will do just about anything, anywhere.
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