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I've killed at least two that I can remember with a Keltec. I shot a German Shepperd trying to get one of my calves that was as big as a wolf at about 40 yards, he didn't run 50 yards before he piled up. Are you a salesman for 5.7 pistols?

No just interested as others are due to the recent gun introductions.

My property and aggressive canines, I'd use snares...

I might know of a guy who used to live down on the border. Every Mex in the cardboard box colonia's had about five dogs. He had a little cattle operation going and the Mex dogs got some calves. He mixed some anti-freeze in with some 'ol Roy and got to work. I think the first morning he had like, thirty dogs down and dead or dying. Of course, that will get the neighbor's doggies too if they are not kept off your place. I think my buddy just considered it collateral damage.

Handgun is only good for protection under these circumstances. I’d go with shotgun and 4 buck or even BB. If you want to eradicate them snares and or M44’s. Steel traps? MB 550 C if you know what you’re doing with them, but snares are better and more cost effective. You’ll never get rid of the coyotes but you can wipe out the dogs with a bit of effort.

PC9 set up for glock mags with folding stock and red dot sight. Some of the newer red dot sights have a very long battery life. Sig Romeo has a 50,000 hour battery life. That is over 2,000 days.

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the sig romeo's and holosun's are turning out to be good red dots. I get the 9mm as it would be common to your pistol, I am just of the opinion that animals up to 200 pounds are very impressed with velocity, just my opinion but seems to work on deer better for me.

I feel like you’ve got three problems.

The first is canines attacking people. For that, it's hard to beat a double-column 9mm loaded with 124-grain JHP ammo and backed up by a couple of spare mags, all carried on your belt 24/7 when you're on the property. Even more important, I’d devote some quality time to my draw stroke and dealing with multiple targets. I'd start with standard draw-and-fire drills and work up to El Presidente, then I'd run through the entire program again in low light. Instead of using IPSC targets on stands, I'd use empty 1-gallon milk jugs on the ground since that's about the geometry of the most likely shot. They're somewhat bigger than the vitals on a canine, so start with them and work down to oil bottles. Tie them to a tent stake with a few feet of 550 cord so you're not chasing them all over the range after every string.

The second is chance contact:

Getting a hit with a handgun in 1-2 seconds out to 50 yards is hard, especially when the target is moving and you’re not standing there ready to draw like you would be at a match. For that, I like the turkey gun you mentioned, a smoothbore riot gun with rifle sights, or an M-4 with a red-dot optic or low-powered scope if safety permits.

The third involves shifting your efforts from defense to offense. For that, I’d look at passive measures like snaring and antifreeze or other poison IF they're legal and collateral damage won't be prohibitive. Active measures could include disrupting their OODA loop. Canines are smart. They know you’re not there all of the time and they might have adapted by lying low while you’re around and being more active when they think you’re gone. Is it possible to go out there there mid-week, slip onto some high ground, and kill a few that way?

You could also talk with other nearby landowners and see what they’re doing. Maybe it becomes a community effort.


Okie John

Some practice climbing trees might not be bad either.

Shaman,

In non-bear country, while hunting, I normally carry my .44 Magnum, because it's legal for taking game. At some point I'll probably build a Glock 20 for that purpose, since I can hand load it to legal hunting spec. for this state. My .44's a Ruger Vaquero, so, It's not what I would choose for Coyotes and dog packs. For that purpose, I'd be more likely to just stick with my Glock 19.

However, when carrying my hunting rifle, I always go to it first for killing things such as coyotes, dogs, etc.

A .277 130gr NBT will make a real mess out of any dogs like critter.

Now, generally, we also keep a couple of "camp guns" around, such as a Mossberg 590, and a couple AR.

For those occasions when I wasn't carrying my hunting rifle, I'd be carrying an AR, most likely my 10.5: pistol AR with an 1-4x variable and some varmint loads such as 52gr NCC, or 60gr NBT's, or what ever new load I wanted to try out on a live critter. Quick, light, handy, rapid follow up shots, and plenty of magazine capacity. If however, mostly longer shots were presenting 250 yards+ then I might swap it out for my 18" rig with a 4-12x.

As always, pay close attention to YOUR circumstances and terrain, because ultimately, that's what dictates what is "best".

As for Mooselette, in this regard I'd treat her as much like everyone else as I could. Get her an ammo pouch and a sling for her little .22 rifle, and even though she would remain escorted, get her into the habit of carrying her gun, being alert, and thinking about her own safety.

A pack of Great Pyrenees.

From what you describe (animals/territory) I think you're quite OK with a well-practiced double-stack 9.. The Ruger SR9 or SR9c can carry 17+1 - and with a spare mag or two handy you should be decently equipped to carry on as needed...

You have got some good advice, but you could also carry your turkey guns loaded with Environmetal "Dead Coyote loads" these are the tits to 75+ yards. luck Shaman this time it's in the barrel of your guns. MB

75+ yards?

“75” which means 50 I think

I'll have to agree with him on this one, I have a Benelli SBE with a Carlsons Coyote choke, specifically designed for #4 buck. I have patterned it at 70 yards, it is a hard hitter.

You have all the advice you need. Go for it. But keep that turkey gun handy. Be Well, Rustyzipper.

What do those patterns at 70 yards look like?

Tracked ?

Wish a wish a coyote would track me, sure would make killing them easier.

It's been a while since I patterned it, but right off the top of my head I'd say 8-10 out of 24 pelllets in a 30 inch circle. It was very impressive. Carlson has something really figured out with their coyote choke.