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Got a 260 before 6.5 creeds were cool, shoots them Nosler 130 AB’s very well!!!
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Originally Posted by aalf
Max SAAMI OAL for a 260 is 2.800"

Max SAAMI OAL for a Creedmoor is 2.825"

Both are screwed trying to seat the pressure ring of 147 Hornady above the neck/shoulder juncture and keep in a 2.800" mag box of a 700.



Not with a T3X 6.5CM. My 147's are seated 2.890 OAL.


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Originally Posted by 257Bob
Early Remington chamberings in 260 Rems had a 1:10 twist, then changed to 1:9 but still missing the boat for 140 gr bullets and up. The Creedmoor is typically chambered/barreled at 1:8. The 260 was hamstrung from the beginning.


My oldest 260, purchased in 10/97, came with a 1-9" ROT barrel.

I believe that Remington cataloged their 260s with a 1-9" ROT for the first 20 years or so, starting on pages 30 and 31 of the 1997 catalog.

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Originally Posted by Brad
The only reason to own a 260 over a 6.5 CM is if you already own one.

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The only reason to own a 260 over a 6.5 CM is if you already own one.

Exactly. If you own and like your .260, you can keep your .260. If not, see quote above.
I agree! That said, the 260 I bought from one of the guys I'm quoting really dotes on Berger Ammo with the both the 130gr OTM and the 136gr Scenar. Last time I looked it was within a few pennies of either Hornady match or precision hunter ammo.

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Don't think a creed will be joining my safe. Not in 6.5 anyway. Perhaps 22 or 243.

There are three 260 in there now. One is factory original Ruger SS boat paddle 22 inch 1 in 10 I think. It usually shoots 120 ballistic tips for targets and deer.

The second was a second identical boat paddle. But now it is in a factory laminate with a 1 in 8, 26 inch Kreiger. It is set up with 123 Scenars in Lapua brass.

The third is a 24 inch 1 in 8 factory Remington 5R with binderless AICS mag. It is still waiting for me to finish inletting the stock to accept the PT&G bottom metal and for Alpha to restock 260 brass. There is a stock of 143 gr ELD=X and 147 ELD match and RL 17 for when she is ready.

But yes, there is a 22-243 AI needing a new barrel. It might become a 22 creed, and a 6-284 on a Rem SA could get resurrected as a six creed.


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Originally Posted by aalf
Max SAAMI OAL for a 260 is 2.800"

Max SAAMI OAL for a Creedmoor is 2.825"

Both are screwed trying to seat the pressure ring of 147 Hornady above the neck/shoulder juncture and keep in a 2.800" mag box of a 700.


Maybe if you get technical about it, but the Creed powder compression under the 147 is quite a bit less than the.260-at least in my rifles-because of the design length of the casing. I seat them both to fit the standard 2.8+ magazine and the Creed handles the longer bullets much easier-although, I have also used the 147 in my .260 without issue. Like I said before, it is a wash for the 130-grain bullets and the .260 actually gets a bit better velocity. For the heavies, I will take the Creed every time, unless it is with a longer magazine, then it is again a wash.


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Originally Posted by sbhooper
Originally Posted by aalf
Max SAAMI OAL for a 260 is 2.800"
Max SAAMI OAL for a Creedmoor is 2.825"
Both are screwed trying to seat the pressure ring of 147 Hornady above the neck/shoulder juncture and keep in a 2.800" mag box of a 700.

Maybe if you get technical about it, but the Creed powder compression under the 147 is quite a bit less than the.260-at least in my rifles-because of the design length of the casing. I seat them both to fit the standard 2.8+ magazine and the Creed handles the longer bullets much easier-although, I have also used the 147 in my .260 without issue. Like I said before, it is a wash for the 130-grain bullets and the .260 actually gets a bit better velocity. For the heavies, I will take the Creed every time, unless it is with a longer magazine, then it is again a wash.

I am technical about my reamers and where they seat bullets in relationship to the lands and fitment in a magazines, and keeping them out of the potential donut area of the case.

Majority of the people aren't and don't care. They load a particular bullet at an OAL that that fits their particular magazine requirements, and call it good.

They just want sausage, and don't wanna know how it's made.........

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I'm setting up a 6.5 CM for my 10yr old grand daughter ( her dad will start her on a .22 soon) So far, its been fun to play with on the bench. On Game, I long ago prefer the '06 cased size, just a quirk of mine. But the ability to buy good shooting factory ammo at a reasonable price is one of the main reasons. I could have picked a .243 just as easy, but I do believe the CM is more "versatile". More options, especially with Match Loads which she will be shooting a lot. If she ever "wants" to hunt, lots of good bullet choices for her to choose. If she is like her Mom, it will stay "targets". Her Life, her choice, but she will always think of "me" when she is using it. smile

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I think the commercial .260 Rem. was always a sales bust, should have been at least as popular as 7/08. Remington should have fired whoever was in charge of promoting it.

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Originally Posted by StrayDog
I think the commercial .260 Rem. was always a sales bust, should have been at least as popular as 7/08. Remington should have fired whoever was in charge of promoting it.


What he said!

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I have 3 rifles in .260 Remington and one Bolt Action Specialty Pistol. I prefer it because well, I have a ton of .308 Win brass I can neck down and I seat the bullets long (single load) to allow room for more powder and increased velocity. I think it’s a factory bust but, for a handloaded.......seems to have a lot of potential.
I only have one 6.5 Creedmoor and it’s in a CVA Scout V2 Pistol. Handloading for it as well and it works. Purchased it mostly for the platform and not the cartridge.
A good selection of factory ammo available and a stellar marketing team have rocketed the Creedmoor to high favor. I just haven’t been overly pleased/impressed with the factory velocities I’ve gotten from the various 6.5 Creedmoor rifles I’ve shot that belonged to friends.

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These days there are still good reasons to buy a .260 Rem.

1. Because you want to. Best reason of all.
2. Because you found a deal on a .260 Rem that you can't pass up.
3. Because you found one in a rifle you really want. A stainless Ruger MKII in a boat paddle stock would be hard for me to resist.
4. Because you already have a Creedmoor and don't like loading the same cartridge for multiple rifles. (Guilty - I have three .30-06 rifles, need to ditch two.)
5. Because you can't find a reason not to.

Is there anything useful the .260 can do that the Creed cannot? Ot vice versa?

LIke my Creed and my 6.5-06AI but my next 6.5 won't be either one. .


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Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
If I hadn't had a yearning for a turnkey suppressor ready rifle, you wouldn't know that. grin

P.S. Now is the time to get your paperwork in. Got the second stamp in less than 4 months.
Thanks for that heads up! Downside is the "fund" is only full enough for a rimfire can, but then again that wouldn't stink either. A suppressed 22 would make early season archery more interesting...

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Originally Posted by aalf
Originally Posted by sbhooper
Originally Posted by aalf
Max SAAMI OAL for a 260 is 2.800"
Max SAAMI OAL for a Creedmoor is 2.825"
Both are screwed trying to seat the pressure ring of 147 Hornady above the neck/shoulder juncture and keep in a 2.800" mag box of a 700.

Maybe if you get technical about it, but the Creed powder compression under the 147 is quite a bit less than the.260-at least in my rifles-because of the design length of the casing. I seat them both to fit the standard 2.8+ magazine and the Creed handles the longer bullets much easier-although, I have also used the 147 in my .260 without issue. Like I said before, it is a wash for the 130-grain bullets and the .260 actually gets a bit better velocity. For the heavies, I will take the Creed every time, unless it is with a longer magazine, then it is again a wash.

I am technical about my reamers and where they seat bullets in relationship to the lands and fitment in a magazines, and keeping them out of the potential donut area of the case.

Majority of the people aren't and don't care. They load a particular bullet at an OAL that that fits their particular magazine requirements, and call it good.

They just want sausage, and don't wanna know how it's made.........




Whatever floats your boat, but I know plenty about how mine are made and I am plenty happy with 1/2 moa accuracy and not worrying about details that are irrelevant to what I am doing. I am not a bench rest shooter, so all that gobbledy gook is a non-issue to me. I pull the trigger and the critters die. That is what I like.


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Originally Posted by sbhooper


Whatever floats your boat, but I know plenty about how mine are made and I am plenty happy with 1/2 moa accuracy and not worrying about details that are irrelevant to what I am doing. I am not a bench rest shooter, so all that gobbledy gook is a non-issue to me. I pull the trigger and the critters die. That is what I like.



Yep. We unleashed some 147's on the hogs this past weekend, and got exits on every one of them, think we wound up with 11. Hogs weighed probably 80-200lbs and distances from about 100 to 275 yds. Very impressive bullet performance. Count me as one that isn't the least bit interested in that techno crap.


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JG, what was your muzzle velocity on those? Sounds like they did well.

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46.9gr of RL26 gave me 2700fps in my Tikka CTR w/20" barrel. I was actually surprised they did so well on hogs becuase IMO they are tougher than deer.


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"46.9gr of RL26 gave me 2700fps in my Tikka CTR w/20" barrel."

Sounds like techno-crap! (Just joking--sort of....)


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