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USO is the way to go... get em’...



I assume you're joking.

USO has the majority of it's holdings in OIL FUTURES, not the most stable US oil companies that might survive.

TRAIN WRECK........

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It will take me a while to get up the nerve to dump $ into stocks...


You snooze you loose. I just stroked a 5 figure check today, looked to me like everything was on sale :-)

Yep, five figures here too. Lots of bargains out there...



I put my play money back in. I even bought a little XOM when it fell below $43. If we get swings like last week, I’ll trade.


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Originally Posted by plainsman456
Wonder what will happen with OXY after their buyout of Anandarko last year or so.

Right now, OXY is wishing they had followed Chevron out the door.......

That was the last of the "easy money", before the door was slammed closed.


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Originally Posted by plainsman456
Wonder what will happen with OXY after their buyout of Anandarko last year or so.

After it was final they all but shutdown their part of the Denver Unit only doing what absolutely was needed to keep them running.

Several weeks ago a 3D geological survey was done here.

Might be more down there.



Might not be a company in 12 months. No interest here.


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We could see 18k by the end of the month....

We could see 30k by the end of the month...



Only if you're on the opium pipe...sweet dreams


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Give it another two weeks and buy.....

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Originally Posted by Calvin
We could see 18k by the end of the month....




If this happens say hello to President Biden.

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Originally Posted by callnum
Originally Posted by Calvin
We could see 18k by the end of the month....




If this happens say hello to President Biden.


Wanna bet dumbass?

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Oil is oil. How many electric tractors are there(for more than a postage stamp lawn)?

Saudis decided to drop U.S. oil prices by $7 (16%)/ barrel, Europe $8, Asia $6/ barrel after a tiff w/ Russia over cutting production.

You know Clinton had a pretty good relationship with the Russians after the Uranium One deal.


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Originally Posted by callnum
Originally Posted by Calvin
We could see 18k by the end of the month....




If this happens say hello to President Biden.



My worries, too. This is a Godsend for the Dems and media.

Pandemic
Market crash
Jobs lost
Fake News manufactured recession

It has to all be Trump's fault. Joe Sixpack might be too easy to sway left. If Bernie drops out soon and backs Biden it will be a tough fight to hold the Senate and White House. Covid-19 will close down the Trump rallies...not a good thing.

If the pandemic is averted, and if Russia and the Saudis come to their senses, the market might rise sharply...a good thing.


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1929-10-28 -12.82%
1929-10-29 -11.73%
1929-11-06 -9.92%

1931-09-24 -7.07%
1932-08-12 -8.40%
1932-10-05 -7.15%
1933-07-20 -7.07%
1933-07-21 -7.84%

1987-10-19 -22.61%
1987-10-26 -8.04%

2008-10-09 -7.33%
2008-10-15 -7.87%
2008-12-01 -7.70%

2020-03-09 -7.79%
2020-??-?? -?.??%
2020-??-?? -?.??%

What are the dates and losses for the unfilled blanks above in 2020, and if you think it can’t / won’t happen again, especially with the REPO window throwing money at God only knows who to keep them afloat (And there’s no guarantee that money is even staying in the U.S.A. with the ongoing corruption ), then dive in.

Everything is MAXED out, there are zero life rafts available, and the medical costs are on course to BK the federal government, every state government and every pension in 4-5 years. That is the BIG elephant in the room the communist media, and so-called conservative radio jocks are hiding from the public. The Congress knows about it, but refuses to solve it, because they would lose their jobs from the depression it would cause, by the necessary steps needed to save the country.

The outright theft of the Medical-Industrial Complex: Insurance, Pharmaceutical and Hospitals from the American people, through collusion, price fixing, monopoly…all federal crimes under Title 15 U.S. Code Chapter 1, (100+ yr. old law on the books), Sherman Anti-Trust Act, Robinson-Patman is TREASON.

I wrote a thread here last year addressing all of this, and nobody wanted to discuss it:
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...ument-to-bankrupt-the-u-s-a#Post13688911

You people following this DOW thread understand numbers hopefully. You need to read the above link, and go read the links in that thread to educate yourselves on the dire fiscal situation the country is facing. You think the energy industry is in dire straits? We are staring at a complete destruction of the economy if the medical cost problem is not solved NOW. You can forget making money in the stock market. There won’t be a stock market. There won’t even be a country left.

Just to forewarn you, Karl supported Trump 100%, until Trump removed the pages from his website concerning addressing medical costs…the night he won.



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Originally Posted by Calvin
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sky is falling sky is falling. This [bleep] gets old. In it for the long run or not at all IMHO.

But to run around panicking when it falls, after having made 30% plus is nuts. Its not going to constantly go up or everyone would be rich...


Not sure if you have been paying attention but $28 oil, a price war, and a global recession isn’t exactly something to be ignored.


The fact that so many just assume that things will return to normal in no time at at is actually more worrisome than what is going on. Just because things went back up after 2009 doesn’t mean it’s going to happen again. We are running out of options as far as rate cuts etc.


It has recovered every single other time in history, and it will again. Do you think all these companies really lost 20% or more of their value in a week? Its just an emotional bump in the market, It is an election year, media fear mongering has been going strong to get at Trump. It might take a year or so, but it will return and we will all be looking back in the rear view mirror on this one as well. As long as you don't sell, you don't lose.

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Originally Posted by Greyghost
Could be much worse that the last one on 2007... can't cut interest, can't hand out bailouts, can't lower taxes... That all has already been done just to prop up Trumps artificial economy.

This one is going to be painful.


Phil


Can still do all of those things. There is money for bail outs, at least as much as there was last time. There is still room to lower taxes, they could also cut spending.

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I remember 1987. My father called his broker, but the line was busy until the market stopped going down.

My father never sold, and was back where he started a year later.... like it never happened.

In 1994 I asked my father how he made 20%/year on the stock market, while I lost 20%.
He said it was because I got whip sawed after 5 months. He never owned any stock less than 5 years.


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Originally Posted by callnum
Originally Posted by Calvin
We could see 18k by the end of the month....




If this happens say hello to President Biden.



Put that hash pipe down.. You're mixing too much crack in.


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This isn't just Wall Street. Every Market in the World is tanking. It's not over by a long shot. Just wait until a country like Greece or Italy can't make an interest payment. The blood bath has just started.

lotta bold on here sayin' buy buy buy



Bold is one thing. Putting your cash where your convictions are is another.



I did about a year ago. Trump was saying "Look at your 401K----highest it's every been" I looked and moved it all into cash. I move back in when the blood bath is over.


Good plan, market timing is the unheraded suerhero of the investing world. All the rich people do it.

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Absolutely no guarantee it will be back in a year. You willing to have your money be stagnant for 3-10 years? No growth at all? That is losing, and most don’t get that concept. You lose if your money is not making you good money. The whole concept of “you only lose if you sell” is BS. If you have to wait 5 years to get back to zero you would probably be better off cutting your losses and putting your money to work now.

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Originally Posted by Calvin
Originally Posted by rost495
sky is falling sky is falling. This [bleep] gets old. In it for the long run or not at all IMHO.

But to run around panicking when it falls, after having made 30% plus is nuts. Its not going to constantly go up or everyone would be rich...


Not sure if you have been paying attention but $28 oil, a price war, and a global recession isn’t exactly something to be ignored.


The fact that so many just assume that things will return to normal in no time at at is actually more worrisome than what is going on. Just because things went back up after 2009 doesn’t mean it’s going to happen again. We are running out of options as far as rate cuts etc.


It has recovered every single other time in history, and it will again. Do you think all these companies really lost 20% or more of their value in a week? Its just an emotional bump in the market, It is an election year, media fear mongering has been going strong to get at Trump. It might take a year or so, but it will return and we will all be looking back in the rear view mirror on this one as well. As long as you don't sell, you don't lose.

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This. You're fixing to lose your ass if you're in Chesapeake and it goes under.


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I bought small positions today in COP, EOG, and VLO, and added to my EPD. EPD is a pipeline company that I have owned for several years, and it typically trades in the upper 20's. I bought today just above 15. The big companies with solid balance sheets will weather this and buy the distressed assets of the small companies that can't service their debt.

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Today was the 11th biggest drop percentage wise

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_daily_changes_in_the_Dow_Jones_Industrial_Average


...........date.................................. ......%
1 1987-10-19 1,738.74 −508.00 −22.61
2 1929-10-28 260.64 −38.33 −12.82
3 1929-10-29 230.07 −30.57 −11.73
4 1929-11-06 232.13 −25.55 −9.92
5 1899-12-18 58.27 −5.57 −8.72
6 1932-08-12 63.11 −5.79 −8.40
7 1907-03-14 76.23 −6.89 −8.29
8 1987-10-26 1,793.93 −156.83 −8.04
9 2008-10-15 8,577.91 −733.08 −7.87
10 1933-07-21 88.71 −7.55 −7.84
11 2020-03-09 23,851.02 −2,013.76 −7.79


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