Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles What cartridge makes a better ***all-around*** cartridge than the .30-06?

This aint Africa........
.......and you ain’t Elmer Keith !


Sorry, M Quigley.

JWall - a 338/06 or 9.3x62 has a better experience for the operator, than the Win Mag....

BigSky, just as LE and Military are back to the 9mm, with modern bullets, seems there was a famous Bear hunter once in AK....S&W 9....

Yes, a 223 now does what folks started with 243s.......and 243s are doing what folks did long ago with 270s........

So, the ole JOC, is perhaps a better mousetrap for many hunters who would not mind dropping recoil and probably shooting better. But personally I'd use a 140 AB, or 150 Noz of choice depending on game. I always liked 150s in my 270s, but would settle for a 140

No nothing wrong with an '06..........I just never 'Needed' one - satisfied with how a 6mmBR kills. 6.5s are nice and I don't mind a 7/08. But factory ammo, a 270 and '06 are like the 308, you should not have an issue with supply.

'All round' can include Africa as much now as it did in Elmers time.

Never happened to me. What did you do when it happened to you?

And if you get separated from your rifle, it doesn't really matter what chambering you have, does it.

mokepole,

Have perhaps traveled a little more than most hunters (but not nearly as much as some), and have seen rifles separated from ammo quite a few times during air travel--due to many airlines insisting the ammo not be in the same case as the rifle.

Sometimes there's a rifle the hunter can use instead, but not always with the confidence they would have with their own rifle--or ammo. Partly because there sometimes isn't time, or adequate facilities, to get used to the borrowed rifle--including sometimes triggers that kinda suck.

Have seen the hunter's rifle and/or ammo show up after 2-3 days, but have also seen neither show up for the entire hunting trip.

Do you let that possibility dicatate the chambering you hunt with?

Smokey

Actually it has happened to a friend WITH me.

We left home EARLY to hunt 60 mi away. Half way there he’s looking for his ammo.
It got left on TV cabinet (80s) at home ! ! !

Luckily he & I both took 2 rifles each.

I let him use 1 of my rifles & AMMO.

IF we’d stopped to buy ammo somewhere we’d BEEN late !!

IT happens.

Jerry

i got to Jachson Hole Airport many years ago without one of my bags and it had my 338-06 handloads in it. Of course a quick trip to town did not produce any 338-06 ammo. If not for the local airport attendant, can't remember the airline, making a call to Salt Lake Airport to a friend of his there and having him find my bag and making sure it was on the next plane, and the last plane out that night, to Jackson I would not have had ammo. We were leaving he next morning riding into the Teton Wilderness.

PS

You wouldn’t find NO wildcat ammo in SE Loosiana !!

Uh huh , Uh huh !

Jerry

95% of the hunting I do is in grizzly country. I opt for the 308.

Seems that those that have the loudest opinion on this subject have mostly shot deer. In Arkansas.

My observation for a long time has remained - “cartridges are more alike than different.”

I doubt you could fine ANY that are better for "all-around" use.

It would be hard to find many that would cover that much ground as well.

VH, did you keep your .338/06 or did one such experience cause you to dump it for a widespread popular chambering?

asking more for Jwalls sake than myself...

LOL, so "ammo availability" was a non-factor, do I have that right?

That 60-mile trip back home to get his ammo would've been ....."catastrophic" in epic proportions.

The crisis may have even been magnified if you stopped at the 7-11 and they were out of coffee. The possibilities are endless.....

Smokey
I’m NOT mad at you. Ok ?

You are WRONG on so many counts.

1. NO, ammo availability WOULD have been a factor.

2. Yes 60 + 60 + 60 BACK would have lost the whole
morning hunt ! Hard to comprehend ?

3. There ‘were’ NO 7/11s at Covington or Bogalusa
La. Ever Heard of Bogalusa ? It’s a real town!
Wrong again.

Now, give it a rest.... I’m thru.

Jerry

VH, did you keep your .338/06 or did one such experience cause you to dump it for a widespread popular chambering?

asking more for Jwalls sake than myself...
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Ask for yourself ! I don’t give a RAT.

Jerry

Back on track !
Thnx. STEVE


Jerry

Jerry, I'm not mad at you either and, nope, never been to Covington or Bogalusa. But if there are no 7-11's, it's a good bet there are no places to buy factory ammo. so your cartridge choice didn't matter with respect to factory ammo availability.

That is what we're talking about, right?.

The great 8mm-06 Improved...clearly the very best.

One that is fully as good in EVERY way is the 7.62X63