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splattermatic, I thought that you were being flippant about the situation. BUT- My New Mexico outfitter just told me that I was smart to cancel- he just got news that Covid-19 is now in New Mexico and that ALL public schools have been cancelled by the New Mexico Public Education Department. There are apparently more cases being tested and it's no longer a matter of if things are going to get bad there but how serious will Coronavirus continue to spread throughout New Mexico. We have THE VIRUS now in NM !
Stay away.
Do not apply for anything here.
You have been warned !
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LOTS of natives who live out on the Rez with poor living conditions, little to no hygiene, and no vaccinations to common health hazards, will spread it quickly at road side food stands, or clan get togethers, etc.
Let's not bring up the local drunks....
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Have to admit I am pretty ashamed of the completely irrational behavior being displayed regarding this situation. We are surrounded by a sea of puzzies who engulf whatever the msm/deepstate/socialist party puts out. So much for rugged individualism. Fugging sheeple.
Hopefully we can use this craziness to bring back pharma production to the US vs outsourcing to our enemies. Bad model.
Wash your hands, don't cough on people, live your life.
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My comments are both sarcastic, and fact.
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That is the best, most honest post I have seen on the Fire in quite some time. Thanks for posting it.
Sheeple is right!!!
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Yes. Virus should be gone by hunting season. Can't stay locked up forever
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Yes. Virus should be gone by hunting season. Can't stay locked up forever Oh I'm sure it will be gone by hunting season. Even though the Swine Flu of 1918 is still with us there's no reason to think Covid 19 won't magically vanish. LMAO.
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Oh, and btw, there still won't be a Covid 19 vaccine available this Fall so where's it going to go? 
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Yes. Virus PANIC should be gone by hunting season. Can't stay locked up forever Oh I'm sure it will be gone by hunting season. Even though the Swine Flu of 1918 is still with us there's no reason to think Covid 19 won't magically vanish. LMAO. Fixed it for you. Stay home if you're skeered!
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If people in the U.S. are in danger of dying from COVID19, think about how much greater the danger will be to people in third world countries.
I think that the Feds should put the NYSE on vacation until we have a better handle on COVID19, otherwise fear of the unknown may drive the economy into the next great depression.
There are nearly 330,000,000 U.S. citizens. If 0.0001% die from COVID19, that is only 33,000, about the same number of people who die in motor vehicle accidents annually. The odds of dying from COVID19 seem slim to me, but I have health insurance if I get sick and life insurance to take care of my family if I was among the small number who will die via COVID19.
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I might alter my road trip habits and stay out of restaurants etc and away from people contact as much as possible. Maybe bring all our food from home so we don’t have to shop with the squandering herds in town, but hunting is lower risk of CV than going to the store to hoard toilet paper.
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There are nearly 330,000,000 U.S. citizens. If 0.0001% die from COVID19, that is only 33,000, about the same number of people who die in motor vehicle accidents annually. The odds of dying from COVID19 seem slim to me, .... Your numbers are false and hypothetical. There is no data to back up your ''if" guess. The CDC and WHO are both reporting mortality rates in the 2-3% overall for those that are infected (higher for those much older, up to 15% mortality rate, and lower for those younger). Using their numbers, that's over 8,000,000 deaths using your base of approx. 330,000,000 citizens.. A Leaked U.S. Government Document is pointing to 90,000,000+ U.S. infections and deaths of 450,000+ U.S. citizens instead, but in both cases this is catastrophic for the families involved and the effect it will have on the U. S. economy and on the world. Heck, Trump just declared a "National Emergency". DR. GOTTLIEB (former FDA commissioner): -- South Korea and China. Remember, when you look at the South Korea data, the case fatality rate in South Korea right now is 0.6. But the time to death is three to six weeks. And most of the cases were diagnosed in the last 10 days. Time to hospitalization is nine to twelve days. So, most of these people in South Korea haven't worked through the severe stages of this- of this disease. The case fatality rate will go up. And I'll- one more point, you have to make a distinction between the case fatality rate and the infection fatality rate. We talk in medicine about the case fatality rate: how many people who get the disease will die? Some people are talking about the infection fatality rate. How many people who get the infection will die? That's not what we focus on in medicine because we know that some people will get the infection but not be symptomatic. We typically don't count those. We count people who get the disease. And for that, the case fatality rate probably- it might not reach one percent in our system, but it might get close to that. It's not 0.1. And that's the seasonal flu. And it's not .05 and that's a mild flu season. That's potentially 10x to 20x the death rate of the flu. Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/t...nation-march-8-2020/
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There are nearly 330,000,000 U.S. citizens. If 0.0001% die from COVID19, that is only 33,000, about the same number of people who die in motor vehicle accidents annually. The odds of dying from COVID19 seem slim to me, .... Your numbers are false and hypothetical. There is no data to back up your ''if" guess. The CDC and WHO are both reporting mortality rates in the 2-3% overall for those that are infected (higher for those much older, up to 15% mortality rate, and lower for those younger). Using their numbers, that's over 8,000,000 deaths using your base of approx. 330,000,000 citizens.. A Leaked U.S. Government Document is pointing to 90,000,000+ U.S. infections and deaths of 450,000+ U.S. citizens instead, but in both cases this is catastrophic for the families involved and the effect it will have on the U. S. economy and on the world. Heck, Trump just declared a "National Emergency". DR. GOTTLIEB (former FDA commissioner): -- South Korea and China. Remember, when you look at the South Korea data, the case fatality rate in South Korea right now is 0.6. But the time to death is three to six weeks. And most of the cases were diagnosed in the last 10 days. Time to hospitalization is nine to twelve days. So, most of these people in South Korea haven't worked through the severe stages of this- of this disease. The case fatality rate will go up. And I'll- one more point, you have to make a distinction between the case fatality rate and the infection fatality rate. We talk in medicine about the case fatality rate: how many people who get the disease will die? Some people are talking about the infection fatality rate. How many people who get the infection will die? That's not what we focus on in medicine because we know that some people will get the infection but not be symptomatic. We typically don't count those. We count people who get the disease. And for that, the case fatality rate probably- it might not reach one percent in our system, but it might get close to that. It's not 0.1. And that's the seasonal flu. And it's not .05 and that's a mild flu season. That's potentially 10x to 20x the death rate of the flu. Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/t...nation-march-8-2020/Your numbers are outrageously incorrect. Please stop.
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There are nearly 330,000,000 U.S. citizens. If 0.0001% die from COVID19, that is only 33,000, about the same number of people who die in motor vehicle accidents annually. The odds of dying from COVID19 seem slim to me, .... Your numbers are false and hypothetical. There is no data to back up your ''if" guess. The CDC and WHO are both reporting mortality rates in the 2-3% overall for those that are infected (higher for those much older, up to 15% mortality rate, and lower for those younger). Using their numbers, that's over 8,000,000 deaths using your base of approx. 330,000,000 citizens.. A Leaked U.S. Government Document is pointing to 90,000,000+ U.S. infections and deaths of 450,000+ U.S. citizens instead, but in both cases this is catastrophic for the families involved and the effect it will have on the U. S. economy and on the world. Heck, Trump just declared a "National Emergency". DR. GOTTLIEB (former FDA commissioner): -- South Korea and China. Remember, when you look at the South Korea data, the case fatality rate in South Korea right now is 0.6. But the time to death is three to six weeks. And most of the cases were diagnosed in the last 10 days. Time to hospitalization is nine to twelve days. So, most of these people in South Korea haven't worked through the severe stages of this- of this disease. The case fatality rate will go up. And I'll- one more point, you have to make a distinction between the case fatality rate and the infection fatality rate. We talk in medicine about the case fatality rate: how many people who get the disease will die? Some people are talking about the infection fatality rate. How many people who get the infection will die? That's not what we focus on in medicine because we know that some people will get the infection but not be symptomatic. We typically don't count those. We count people who get the disease. And for that, the case fatality rate probably- it might not reach one percent in our system, but it might get close to that. It's not 0.1. And that's the seasonal flu. And it's not .05 and that's a mild flu season. That's potentially 10x to 20x the death rate of the flu. Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/t...nation-march-8-2020/Baaaaa....
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Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
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The clock is tickin, huntin season is every year, every year there’s one less.... the only thing I’m concerned about, if I can get into Canada to hunt...
Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
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I redid my draw odds spreadsheet to account for the Coronavirus point creepdown.....grin...
Hopefully all the Canadians think like this guy....
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I'm surprised. I didn't think there would be hunting seasons closed over this.
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