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7 percent....24,700 confirmed cases and 1800 deaths. Do the math.


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How many cases not confirmed?


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How many unreported cases? Obviously, no one knows. I suspect the rate is considerably lower.


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exactly. 1,000s will have it and not ever get tested

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Originally Posted by JPro
How many cases not confirmed?

Yep, most people likely just rode it out at home the way most folks do the flu, so it never got recorded.

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The Italians are not testing squat anymore.... just trying to hang on.

Or, life as usual in Italy?


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Originally Posted by Tarquin
7 percent....24,700 confirmed cases and 1800 deaths. Do the math.


I learned in statistics classes many years ago that statistics can be manipulated. The truth of the matter is they do not know how many cases they actually have. Our media is doing its darnedest to make it look real bad.


Lets not even mention that Italians are "touch friendly" people , kissing on cheeks is an everyday scenario.

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The world-wide media is the driving force behind the pandemonium.



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Originally Posted by Tarquin
7 percent....24,700 confirmed cases and 1800 deaths. Do the math.

SO, what ya gonna do different now?


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Originally Posted by Tarquin
7 percent....24,700 confirmed cases and 1800 deaths. Do the math.


Fuzzy math.
How many actually have it?
How old are they?
How many have underlying health issues?


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The reason for the 1800 deaths is:
1) They have the oldest population in Europe, and it hits old people the hardest
2) They totally failed to contain or slow it down, and cases came fast and all together into a socialized health system that is flat broke and totally overwhelmed.

They are literally having to choose from those coming in who is the most likely to survive and putting them on ventilators. Others get pain management and end of life care.

This is the reason for "social distancing" - to spread the number of cases out over months rather than weeks so the hospitals can keep up.

So go fishing, go shooting.. avoid folks for a while. This isn't a hardship for folks like us. grin


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Originally Posted by Calhoun
The reason for the 1800 deaths is:
1) They have the oldest population in Europe, and it hits old people the hardest
2) They totally failed to contain or slow it down, and cases came fast and all together into a socialized health system that is flat broke and totally overwhelmed.

They are literally having to choose from those coming in who is the most likely to survive and putting them on ventilators. Others get pain management and end of life care.

This is the reason for "social distancing" - to spread the number of cases out over months rather than weeks so the hospitals can keep up.

So go fishing, go shooting.. avoid folks for a while. This isn't a hardship for folks like us. grin

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socialized health system that is flat broke and totally overwhelmed.

They are literally having to choose from those coming in who is the most likely to survive


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The WHO puts the mortality rate at 2%, and they even say that its impossible to put a real number on it...we will never know the real mortality rate because symptoms are usually so mild we will never know how many people actually had it...

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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How many cases not confirmed?

Yep, most people likely just rode it out at home the way most folks do the flu, so it never got recorded.


Yup. Most people do ride it out and are no worse for the wear. But when they spread it to Granny, so long grandma.

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The skepticism here would be amusing if if weren’t so scary. This is serious. The Chinese apparently have slowed it down, but they essentially closed down a city of 10-12 million or so to do it. You really think that authoritarian government did that over the common cold?


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On average, nearly 40,000 people die from influenza in the U.S. every year.




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Its out of control here now. People dont start dying usually until 2-4 weeks after they get it. Hangon!


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