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trump say's has been sent to aid those states under heavy need... the Comfort and the Mercy. Both are in their ports under maintenance with no crew on board or supply's...

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All the doctors and nurses come from other hospitals. Hope they thought that through.

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Originally Posted by Greyghost
trump say's has been sent to aid those states under heavy need... the Comfort and the Mercy. Both are in their ports under maintenance with no crew on board or supply's...

Phil

You really are something else.
They are two assets that can help in a time of need and all you can do is cry that they aren't there today, just so you can take a cheap shot at the President.
The Navy has already said the ships won't be ready for a couple of weeks.
The ships also are not going to treat the Covid19 patients.
They are going to treat other patients to take the strain off the hospitals.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/18/politics/esper-navy-hospital-ships/index.html
Esper confirms Navy hospital ships won't treat coronavirus patients and will take weeks to deploy

By Ryan Browne, CNN

Updated 7:48 PM ET, Wed March 18, 2020

Washington (CNN)Defense Secretary Mark Esper made clear to CNN that two Navy hospital ships being deployed to help respond to the coronavirus outbreak will not treat patients suffering from the virus and will take weeks to deploy.
The Pentagon also confirmed they will provide 2,000 hospital beds. New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Wednesday that his state alone needs an additional 50,000.
"I have directed, as the President has mentioned, the hospital ships Mercy and Comfort to be prepared to deploy to increase the nation's medical capacity and we've also alerted a variety of field and expeditionary hospitals to be prepared to deploy as well as needed," Esper said at the White House on Wednesday.
Cuomo announced Wednesday that the USNS Comfort would be docked in New York City harbor.

He called the decision to deploy the ship an "extraordinary step" because the Comfort is "literally a floating hospital."

However, the ships will not treat coronavirus patients. Instead they will be used to treat other illnesses or injuries, and free up capacity in civilian hospitals that are expected to be overwhelmed with cases of the virus. Also, the fact the Comfort is not expected to deploy for a number of weeks means it will not provide support if the number of cases and deaths spike in the near term, as many experts have predicted.
The USNS Mercy is likely to deploy sooner, though the Pentagon has not said where it will be sent.
"The Comfort, which is on the East Coast, should be ready in a couple weeks -- plus, the Mercy, which is on the West Coast, should be ready in a week and a half, two weeks, definitely before the end of this month the Mercy will deploy," Esper told CNN's Jake Tapper Wednesday.
Esper also said that the Pentagon was prepared to provide field hospitals to state authorities to also help with non-coronavirus patients.

"What we have offered up are what I mentioned -- those field hospitals, those expeditionary hospitals. Those provide the same functions as the hospital ships, we can field them fairly quickly, we can provide hospital beds and we can provide doctors, nurses, equipment all those things you need," Esper told Tapper while making it clear that those field hospitals would similarly not treat coronavirus patients.
"Again they're geared toward trauma, and what we can do is to create space in local hospitals by peeling off their trauma patients putting them through our field hospitals," Esper said, adding "we could set it up in an open field and we can process patients through there whatever makes most sense, that's most convenient for the governors, again those are conversations I'm having."
Ships receiving maintenance
The Norfolk-based Comfort and San Diego-based USNS Mercy are "currently working to complete scheduled maintenance cycles and identify necessary medical staffing to deploy as soon as possible," the US Navy said in a statement to CNN.
"The Comfort is intended to head to New York, in that area, on timing wise that's a little bit more difficult," Chief Pentagon Spokesman Jonathan Hoffman told reporters on Wednesday.
"The Mercy will be prepared and ready to go much sooner," Hoffman said, saying "they are hopefully going to be prepared to go in days not weeks" and that when it's prepared to sail, a determination will be made as to where it will go.

Each ship has a capacity for about 1,000 beds but many of their treatment areas are in open bay and would therefore be ill-suited to handling potentially contagious coronavirus patients.
"The Comfort and Mercy will not deploy to treat COVID patients but will be made available to assist with treatment of other patients in coastal locations where local health professionals are necessarily focused on a large number of COVID cases," a spokesperson for the Navy told CNN in a statement.
In addition, over 1,000 field hospital beds are being readied along with the units to man them, not counting the ships,according to Joint Staff Surgeon Brig. Gen. Paul Friedrichs, who briefed reporters at the Pentagon on Wednesday.
Staffing challenges
Another issue is staffing the two ships.
The ships are typically staffed by US Navy reservists or civilian volunteers, and staffing them could present challenges if those personnel are drawn from the civilian medical work force that is actively responding to the crisis.
Defense officials, including Esper, are cognizant of those challenges with Hoffman saying Wednesday that "staffing is an issue."

Officials say that they will seek to avoid calling up reservists and focus on active duty military medical personnel in order to avoid that issue.
"Right now we're looking at our military staffing," Friedrichs said Wednesday.

CNN's Barbara Starr contributed to this report.


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Brother Phil always manages to get at least 1/2 of his stories right. Let’s give him that much credit.

This is a prime example of why Courts requires:
The truth
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And nothing but the truth

Doesn’t apply to and is most inconvenient for Democrats.


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Better than Italy's approach.


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My wife was a PA on the Mercy for about 6 weeks right before we got married. They were docked in Jamaica then. They do a lot of work on people around the work. Most of the staff are volunteers that rotate through.

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Originally Posted by Greyghost
trump say's has been sent to aid those states under heavy need... the Comfort and the Mercy. Both are in their ports under maintenance with no crew on board or supply's...

Phil
...............Well then WHY don't you wave your magic wand and get 'r done OR may some suggestions. GayCRAPS! You are the typical dumb and hypocritical Trump hater who just sits back and does his own Monday morning quarterbacking, NOT realizing all of the logistics involved........

Trump has the best experts helping with this crises. And you have what?............ZERO!


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Originally Posted by bigsqueeze
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trump say's has been sent to aid those states under heavy need... the Comfort and the Mercy. Both are in their ports under maintenance with no crew on board or supply's...

Phil
...............Well then WHY don't you wave your magic wand and get 'r done OR may some suggestions. GayCRAPS! You are the typical dumb and hypocritical Trump hater who just sits back and does his own Monday morning quarterbacking, NOT realizing all of the logistics involved........

Trump has the best experts helping with this crises. And you have what?............ZERO!


Actually he has the California lock down thingie. Gotta count for something.


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
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Originally Posted by Greyghost
trump say's has been sent to aid those states under heavy need... the Comfort and the Mercy. Both are in their ports under maintenance with no crew on board or supply's...

Phil
...............Well then WHY don't you wave your magic wand and get 'r done OR may some suggestions. GayCRAPS! You are the typical dumb and hypocritical Trump hater who just sits back and does his own Monday morning quarterbacking, NOT realizing all of the logistics involved........

Trump has the best experts helping with this crises. And you have what?............ZERO!


Actually he has the California lock down thingie. Gotta count for something.
.....................Well here in the OC, we have battened down the hatches. I'm stocked up with plenty of food, (a freezer in the garage too) TP, handwipes, lysol, vitamins, paper towels, my Balance of Nature capsules, etc and etc..........Now I can catch up on all of the NCIS episodes on Netflix that I have missed over the years....


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Originally Posted by bigsqueeze
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by bigsqueeze
Originally Posted by Greyghost
trump say's has been sent to aid those states under heavy need... the Comfort and the Mercy. Both are in their ports under maintenance with no crew on board or supply's...

Phil
...............Well then WHY don't you wave your magic wand and get 'r done OR may some suggestions. GayCRAPS! You are the typical dumb and hypocritical Trump hater who just sits back and does his own Monday morning quarterbacking, NOT realizing all of the logistics involved........

Trump has the best experts helping with this crises. And you have what?............ZERO!


Actually he has the California lock down thingie. Gotta count for something.
.....................Well here in the OC, we have battened down the hatches. I'm stocked up with plenty of food, (a freezer in the garage too) TP, handwipes, lysol, vitamins, paper towels, my Balance of Nature capsules, etc and etc..........Now I can catch up on all of the NCIS episodes on Netflix that I have missed over the years....


Ya done gud.

Good luck.


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Too funny...

The liberal Socialist democrat members here seem to like to grab cherry-picked snippets of anti-Trump / anti-conservative comments and opinions posted by their socialist comrades at their favorite liberal Socialist propaganda websites, discussion forums and news media sources and then run here to post them as if they just discovered something big.





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Originally Posted by Greyghost
trump say's has been sent to aid those states under heavy need... the Comfort and the Mercy. Both are in their ports under maintenance with no crew on board or supply's...

Phil



If he cured the damned thing today, and gave everyone a new house with a closet full of money, it still wouldn't be good enough for and your kind...


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
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trump say's has been sent to aid those states under heavy need... the Comfort and the Mercy. Both are in their ports under maintenance with no crew on board or supply's...

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If he cured the damned thing today, and gave everyone a new house with a closet full of money, it still wouldn't be good enough for and your kind...


Easy there, Rbb. The boy is locked in and suffering from cabin fever.


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Well if they really got those Ca turds locked down ,it's time for more wall and roundups Just think they could round up some illegal alien corona + and send them back where they belong.


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Originally Posted by Greyghost
trump say's has been sent to aid those states under heavy need... the Comfort and the Mercy. Both are in their ports under maintenance with no crew on board or supply's...

Phil


How much do you know about the Navy? Those ships are not normally manned or supplied. They stand in ready reserve to be mobilized when needed. They can stock them with supplies in a couple of days and the medical personnel billeted when needed come from the regular medical commands and reservists. It has always been that way.

And before you get your panties in a twist and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about let me infrom you that I spent more than 20 years in the USN and am a retired Chief Petty Officer.


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2 days ago on tv your trumps stated that he was immediately dispatching the two ships to the east and west coast. In fact they are both laid up for maintenance, and at best will be weeks if not months before either can go anywhere.

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Swing and a miss...........Strike three Phil.


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Originally Posted by Greyghost
2 days ago on tv your trumps stated that he was immediately dispatching the two ships to the east and west coast. In fact they are both laid up for maintenance, and at best will be weeks if not months before either can go anywhere.

Phil
.......NO GayCRAPS........He said it would take time. He gave the order TO dispatch the ships when ready.........You are such a (Take Trump out of Context) IDIOT!


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Preparing a ship for deployment takes some time and a lot of work.


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