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You're somebody who accepts every anecdotal piece of crap that gets posted on the internet as "evidence" of an epidemic, and suddenly a skeptic?
Was tested by my doctor friend.
Described my symptoms, and he told me C-19 is what I had.
Didn't waste a test, none needed and I was over it anyway.
And they aren't even testing people that they think got it, because what they got isn't as important as what's wrong with em.
And for 99.9% of people, there's very little wrong with em.
If a person actually had a serious health issue, they'd be tested.
I’m the last person you can accuse of accepting anecdotal evidence. Start here... https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...0096/re-1st-us-corona-death#Post14620096I'll pass. If you're a believer in the hysteria, you're by definition a believer in anecdotal evidence. Because there's very few actual facts out there.
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I’m the last person you can accuse of accepting anecdotal evidence.
So, you wouldn't believe this, would you?: Had a Google Duo "virtual happy hour" with my mother today, she is a nurse practitioner who runs a clinic for the undeserved in Northern California. She was taking a break at home, seemed pretty frazzled. She is a 68 year old who looks, acts, and works like a 40 year old, but I could see the tiredness in her eyes.
The situation there, is DIRE. The hospital in town is asking for any and all current and former nurses to volunteer to help, which she may do. Equipment shortages, and they expect a severe lack of beds within days.
Stay safe friends.
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Call me a big jerk but the word undeserved makes me laugh. I think he meant underserved.
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I’m the last person you can accuse of accepting anecdotal evidence. Or this: My mom is an RN who manages the “ask a nurse” phone in your question department. She just finished training 40-50 additional nurses to handle the volume of calls they have been getting. Her mormal schedule is 64 hours in a 2 week pay period. She just finished 12 fourteen hour shifts. She put in for her retirement 4 or 5 weeks ago but hasn’t heard when that is going to happen yet.
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I’m the last person you can accuse of accepting anecdotal evidence. Or this: Got a call early this morning from a dear friend. His wife passed away earlier this morning, she had been in failing health.
Upon getting her to the Emergency Room he was made to leave and told to wait outside the hospital and they took his cell phone number. He went to the parking garage and waited for hours and got the text that she had passed. He called me from the parking garage.
He was not allowed to enter the hospital to see her and spend final private moments with his life’s partner.
As of an hour ago the funeral home can’t tell the family anything related to what the service for her might hold.
I write this in case others here may possibly have a similar situation and as to what you might expect should the worst come to pass.
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It’s reported here on the fire that MORE THAN 90,000 people worldwide have recovered from Covid-19. If true, hallelujah. We should be thankful the fatality rate is so low.
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I’m the last person you can accuse of accepting anecdotal evidence. Obviously not to be believed, right?: Wife has a close friend (they are godmothers to each other’s first born) who is a family practice MD. Her husband is an ER MD. They are very concerned. He is not going home after his shift....staying in a hotel near the hospital. She is staying home with their kids, says they are trying to make sure their kids come through this with at least one parent.
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833 tested, 126 positive, 4 dead in Indiana.
At least 2 of the dead were super high risk.
See how the numbers jump Monday
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The overdoses seem to be steady in my burg. Waste of resources
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It’s reported here on the fire that MORE THAN 90,000 people worldwide have recovered from Covid-19. If true, hallelujah. We should be thankful the fatality rate is so low. Almost 96,000 per recent report vs 13,000 dead. Still a bit over 1%.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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I'll pass. If you're a believer in the hysteria, you're by definition a believer in anecdotal evidence. Because there's very few actual facts out there. You’ll pass on what—following a link to the peer reviewed literature I cited weeks ago when initially trying to understand this? You’re well out of your depth.
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
We are all Rhodesians now.
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I think they said almost 800 just yesterday.
Their older generation is getting hammered.
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I'll pass. If you're a believer in the hysteria, you're by definition a believer in anecdotal evidence. Because there's very few actual facts out there. You’ll pass on what—following a link to the peer reviewed literature I cited weeks ago when initially trying to understand this? You’re well out of your depth. I was thinking he should have passed on a lot of opportunities to comment. ...and remove all doubt.
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Any politician who thinks they can fight the evil that has consumed the government is delusional or lying. There is no political solution.
"You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life."
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This isn't a hardship for folks like us.  My wife lost her job and I lost my side gig. Over this. This is a hardship, and it is caused not by a virus but by the absurd over reaction to what is essentially (if not literally) a bad flu. The fear mongerers hve successfully convinced most of 'us' that it is wise to kneecap the best economy in the world. ... just ot be safe. Massive over reaction , and the medicine we are deciding upon is orders of magnitude worse than the effects of the disease. I a not going to wilt up and blow away, but this is causing a hardship. Retirement, kids college, 6months of plans.
Quit giving in inch by inch then looking back to lament the mile behind ya and wonder how to preserve those few feet left in front of ya. They'll never stop until they're stopped. That's a fact.
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Anyone who thinks quarantine/social distancing doesn’t work please explain your rationale for the vast differences in the death rates between Philadelphia and St Louis attributed to the 1918 flu outbreak.
Both cities had similar populations and St Louis sheltered in place and had less then 1/3 the deaths of Philadelphia who went about life as normal.
Also when talking about scope, spread and forecast of any virus it’s important to consider R Nought. R Nought on this virus is very concerning compared to many other virus of the past as most of the virus’s having higher R Nought values we now have vaccines for.
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How can R Nought be a problem, when only 30,000 people outa 350 million have contracted the virus?
.00009, rounded, of the population.
You can't have it both ways.
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In Lombardi, Italy's hardest hit area the death rate is 9.3%. Which apparently is approximately 4 times that of the other areas in the country so far as of today.21 Mar.
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How can R Nought be a problem, when only 30,000 people outa 350 million have contracted the virus?
.00009, rounded, of the population.
You can't have it both ways. Good god you are stupid. You don't have a clue what you are talking about.
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