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An example would be like new mexico
There are 2 million people in the state of New Mexico
Low end is that 20% or 400,000 people will contract the virus
1/5 of those people may need hospital care/ a hospital bed - which is 80,000 people
There are only 4500 hospital beds in the whole state
They would need lots of cots. Little to no staff after a while from exhaustion. No equipment and possible shortage of even basic supply's.
Triage would in effect be a place to put the corpses.
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The videos you posted in the other thread are terrifying. The math does not lie - our healthcare system Will Succumb to this virus.
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“We will do it as a state under an ethical framework that is part of the state plan,” she said. “It will be overseen by an objective team who has been thoroughly briefed on the protocols and processes, and will be undertaken in a transparent and equitable manner.
They make it sound like you could pick up a turd by the clean end!
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Obamacare death panels are a hoax
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Obamacare death panels are a hoax Yeah, for sure. Just another lie they wanted us to swallow. The collective thinks like that. Sheep are property of the mgr. DF
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Actually, they may decide who is and who is not treated. I doubt they will apply a death sentence to anyone.
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Actually, they may decide who is and who is not treated. I doubt they will apply a death sentence to anyone. Well that don’t sound near dramatic enough. You need to throw in “death panel” lol.
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I wonder if the politicians will get treatment.... Actually, they may decide who is and who is not treated. I doubt they will apply a death sentence to anyone.
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You need to throw in “death panel” Death panel was a phrase for those who wrote Obamacare, and decided who and what to ration. Someone will decide again who lives and dies when rationing happens.
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I live in Forks, on the Olympic peninsula in Washington, and we're seeing a whole different aspects of this schit-show. Evidently, social distancing for the people in the east side of Puget sound means head West! Couldn't buy a parking spot at any of the National Park trailheads this morning, and every wide spot on state or forest service land has a tent pitched in it! Sometime last night some locals started posting signs along the highway in and out of town stating that tourists weren't wanted or welcome.
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Actually, they may decide who is and who is not treated. I doubt they will apply a death sentence to anyone. That will be the case in every hospital or treatment facility across the world, if/when they become overwhelmed. I doubt the state gov't will have a triage doctor in each hospital. It will most likely be the call of the triage nurse or doctor on duty, to assess and make decisions.
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An example would be like new mexico
There are 2 million people in the state of New Mexico
Low end is that 20% or 400,000 people will contract the virus
1/5 of those people may need hospital care/ a hospital bed - which is 80,000 people
There are only 4500 hospital beds in the whole state
They would need lots of cots. Little to no staff after a while from exhaustion. No equipment and possible shortage of even basic supply's.
Triage would in effect be a place to put the corpses.
You assume they will all get sick at the same time?
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You assume they will all get sick at the same time? I don't assume anything. Not my department.
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My grandmother in Michigan, they said they wouldn't treat anyone over 80. She is 94.
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I am almost 80 years old, I have no misgivings about my chances of treatment or survival if the SHTF . If I lived in Western Washington or Oregon I would be loading up my camper and heading for some tiny town in Idaho.
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My grandmother in Michigan, they said they wouldn't treat anyone over 80. She is 94. We live in Michigan, and I haven’t heard anything about this!!!!
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Obamacare death panels are a hoax Yeah, for sure. Just another lie they wanted us to swallow. The collective thinks like that. Sheep are property of the mgr. DF PREZACTLY!!!
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I live in Forks, on the Olympic peninsula in Washington, and we're seeing a whole different aspects of this schit-show. Evidently, social distancing for the people in the east side of Puget sound means head West! Couldn't buy a parking spot at any of the National Park trailheads this morning, and every wide spot on state or forest service land has a tent pitched in it! Sometime last night some locals started posting signs along the highway in and out of town stating that tourists weren't wanted or welcome. The local yokels sure expect to go into the cities and find tools, materials, groceries, medical services, and dental services they don't have in the stix. Imagine how they would howl if they were turned back.
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This will happen when people do not follow guidelines given to them by leadership of individual states and by the Federal Government. The only way to cope with the pandemic is not to overwhelm the healthcare system by doing everything possible to prevent spreading of infection. Since there will not be enough test for nearly everyone people have to stay in relative isolation and interact with others in community only when it's absolutely necessary. Obviously if the infection spreads at current rate there will not be enough spaces and equipment to treat everyone at medical facilities, therefore, difficult decisions will have to be made. Based on available space only those with highest chance of survival will be treated. Obviously any deaths due to shortages of space/equipment will be assigned to the current leadership.
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If you were in charge of medicine distribution and had a choice of saving a 25 year old employed parent of 2 children or a 78 year old nursing home patient, who would you choose? If I had one dose of life saving medicine and it was a choice between me (age 67) and my son (age 35) he would get it. If it were 2 strangers and I had that same decision the younger person would get it. Now I am going to depart from that scenario and say that criminal prisoners should be last in line.
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