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you there, AK dude, Stop bringing science into this forum. Did you see the (375) above what's highlighted? Who's honestly going to believe anyone cites 375 papers when writing one? Gotta be fake science too, like fake news. Geno Hardly fake science... Actually the paper he cites there (375) is very interesting too (various collegues wrote that one). Hardly 'fake' science. It's also peer reviewed and published in a highly regarded journal in 2006 when virology took off and science discovered exactly what was happening after SARS. Too bad no one listened. Here, I'll give you an excerpt from that paper: "The recent severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) epidemic, the discovery of SARS coronavirus (CoV), and the identification of SARS CoV-like viruses from Himalayan palm civets and a raccoon dog from wild-animal live markets in mainland China have led to a boost in interest in the discovery of novel coronaviruses in both humans and animals (8, 23, 26, 28, 40, 42). In 2004, a novel group 1 human coronavirus (HCoV), NL63, was reported independently by two groups (6, 34). In 2005, we described the discovery, complete genome sequence, clinical features, and molecular epidemiology of a novel group 2 human coronavirus, HKU1 (genotype A) (17, 37-39, 41). This virus has also subsequently been found in patients with respiratory tract infections in other countries (1, 30, 33). Recently, we have also identified a SARS CoV-like virus in Chinese horseshoe bats and a novel group 1 coronavirus in large bent-winged bats, lesser bent-winged bats, and Japanese long-winged bats in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (16, 27). The discovery of SARS CoV-like viruses in horseshoe bats was confirmed by another group in other provinces in China (19). ... ....Based on these observations, we suspected that there is an additional CoV HKU1 genotype which has arisen from recombination between genotypes A and B of CoV HKU1....The potential of generation of novel species leading to zoonotic outbreaks and major consequences " Now I know you're going to rip me to shreds for citing science, but do you know who partially funded this particular 'science'? A math brat gambler from PITTSBURGH! " Acknowledgements...; and the William Benter Infectious Disease Fund." Wiki: "William "Bill" Benter (born 1957) is an American professional gambler and philanthropist who focuses on horse betting. Benter earned nearly $1 billion through the development of one of the most successful analysis computer software programs in the horse racing market.[1] Benter is a philanthropist donating to charitable causes both in Hong Kong and the United States." He was subsequently kicked out of Vegas, met a guy, started a business, moved to Hong Kong, got married, had a kid, and poof...donated money to science geeks from Hong Kong. ... William Benter was born and raised in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.[2] As he grew up, he wanted to use his mathematical talents to make a profit so immediately after finishing a university physics degree in 1977,[3] he went to the blackjack tables in Las Vegas and used his skills to count cards. He came across the book, Beat the Dealer, by Edward O. Thorp, which helped him improve his methods.[4] Seven years later, he was banned from all of Vegas’ strip's casinos.[2]" So there you have it. Science, not fake, but...he's a democrat. About 62 or 63 and as of 2018 was reported as living back in Pittsburgh.
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Or maybe you rather some dog Good enough for the Corps of Discovery, good enough for me in a pinch. Had a big ol mutt years ago when I did wild thing. Told him from when he was a pup, if it ever got down to a survival situation I'd be eating his bones and using his nice furry coat to stay warm, and not vice versa. Geno
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you there, AK dude, Stop bringing science into this forum. Did you see the (375) above what's highlighted? Who's honestly going to believe anyone cites 375 papers when writing one? Gotta be fake science too, like fake news. Geno Hardly fake science... Actually the paper he cites there (375) is very interesting too (various collegues wrote that one). Hardly 'fake' science. It's also peer reviewed and published in a highly regarded journal in 2006 when virology took off and science discovered exactly what was happening after SARS. Too bad no one listened. Here, I'll give you an excerpt from that paper: "The recent severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) epidemic, the discovery of SARS coronavirus (CoV), and the identification of SARS CoV-like viruses from Himalayan palm civets and a raccoon dog from wild-animal live markets in mainland China have led to a boost in interest in the discovery of novel coronaviruses in both humans and animals (8, 23, 26, 28, 40, 42). In 2004, a novel group 1 human coronavirus (HCoV), NL63, was reported independently by two groups (6, 34). In 2005, we described the discovery, complete genome sequence, clinical features, and molecular epidemiology of a novel group 2 human coronavirus, HKU1 (genotype A) (17, 37-39, 41). This virus has also subsequently been found in patients with respiratory tract infections in other countries (1, 30, 33). Recently, we have also identified a SARS CoV-like virus in Chinese horseshoe bats and a novel group 1 coronavirus in large bent-winged bats, lesser bent-winged bats, and Japanese long-winged bats in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (16, 27). The discovery of SARS CoV-like viruses in horseshoe bats was confirmed by another group in other provinces in China (19). ... ....Based on these observations, we suspected that there is an additional CoV HKU1 genotype which has arisen from recombination between genotypes A and B of CoV HKU1....The potential of generation of novel species leading to zoonotic outbreaks and major consequences " Now I know you're going to rip me to shreds for citing science, but do you know who partially funded this particular 'science'? A math brat gambler from PITTSBURGH! " Acknowledgements...; and the William Benter Infectious Disease Fund." Wiki: "William "Bill" Benter (born 1957) is an American professional gambler and philanthropist who focuses on horse betting. Benter earned nearly $1 billion through the development of one of the most successful analysis computer software programs in the horse racing market.[1] Benter is a philanthropist donating to charitable causes both in Hong Kong and the United States." He was subsequently kicked out of Vegas, met a guy, started a business, moved to Hong Kong, got married, had a kid, and poof...donated money to science geeks from Hong Kong. ... William Benter was born and raised in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.[2] As he grew up, he wanted to use his mathematical talents to make a profit so immediately after finishing a university physics degree in 1977,[3] he went to the blackjack tables in Las Vegas and used his skills to count cards. He came across the book, Beat the Dealer, by Edward O. Thorp, which helped him improve his methods.[4] Seven years later, he was banned from all of Vegas’ strip's casinos.[2]" So there you have it. Science, not fake, but...he's a democrat. About 62 or 63 and as of 2018 was reported as living back in Pittsburgh. You're relatively new here, so I'll let you in on a secret. Rick (the owner) hasn't given us a sarcasm font here ...........................yet. Mine post was in the non-existent, invisible sarcasm font............................. Beware, some of us use it frequently. Geno
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I first saw these open "wet markets" whilst on Liberty in Singapore and Hong Kong years ago. I know oriental "civilization" is all the rage with a lot of folks, but I find this whole issue of eating bats AND pets disgusting and oh yeah, I include sushi in the same boat.
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you there, AK dude, Stop bringing science into this forum. Did you see the (375) above what's highlighted? Who's honestly going to believe anyone cites 375 papers when writing one? Gotta be fake science too, like fake news. Geno Hardly fake science... Actually the paper he cites there (375) is very interesting too (various collegues wrote that one). Hardly 'fake' science. It's also peer reviewed and published in a highly regarded journal in 2006 when virology took off and science discovered exactly what was happening after SARS. Too bad no one listened. Here, I'll give you an excerpt from that paper: "The recent severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) epidemic, the discovery of SARS coronavirus (CoV), and the identification of SARS CoV-like viruses from Himalayan palm civets and a raccoon dog from wild-animal live markets in mainland China have led to a boost in interest in the discovery of novel coronaviruses in both humans and animals (8, 23, 26, 28, 40, 42). In 2004, a novel group 1 human coronavirus (HCoV), NL63, was reported independently by two groups (6, 34). In 2005, we described the discovery, complete genome sequence, clinical features, and molecular epidemiology of a novel group 2 human coronavirus, HKU1 (genotype A) (17, 37-39, 41). This virus has also subsequently been found in patients with respiratory tract infections in other countries (1, 30, 33). Recently, we have also identified a SARS CoV-like virus in Chinese horseshoe bats and a novel group 1 coronavirus in large bent-winged bats, lesser bent-winged bats, and Japanese long-winged bats in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (16, 27). The discovery of SARS CoV-like viruses in horseshoe bats was confirmed by another group in other provinces in China (19). ... ....Based on these observations, we suspected that there is an additional CoV HKU1 genotype which has arisen from recombination between genotypes A and B of CoV HKU1....The potential of generation of novel species leading to zoonotic outbreaks and major consequences " Now I know you're going to rip me to shreds for citing science, but do you know who partially funded this particular 'science'? A math brat gambler from PITTSBURGH! " Acknowledgements...; and the William Benter Infectious Disease Fund." Wiki: "William "Bill" Benter (born 1957) is an American professional gambler and philanthropist who focuses on horse betting. Benter earned nearly $1 billion through the development of one of the most successful analysis computer software programs in the horse racing market.[1] Benter is a philanthropist donating to charitable causes both in Hong Kong and the United States." He was subsequently kicked out of Vegas, met a guy, started a business, moved to Hong Kong, got married, had a kid, and poof...donated money to science geeks from Hong Kong. ... William Benter was born and raised in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.[2] As he grew up, he wanted to use his mathematical talents to make a profit so immediately after finishing a university physics degree in 1977,[3] he went to the blackjack tables in Las Vegas and used his skills to count cards. He came across the book, Beat the Dealer, by Edward O. Thorp, which helped him improve his methods.[4] Seven years later, he was banned from all of Vegas’ strip's casinos.[2]" So there you have it. Science, not fake, but...he's a democrat. About 62 or 63 and as of 2018 was reported as living back in Pittsburgh. You're relatively new here, so I'll let you in on a secret. Rick (the owner) hasn't given us a sarcasm font here ...........................yet. Mine post was in the non-existent, invisible sarcasm font............................. Beware, some of us use it frequently. Geno LOL Time for a long read, see if you can find the highlighted sentence. https://cmr.asm.org/content/20/4/660.full
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Them Chinese are some fugged up people. Remember that vid from a few years ago where they were skinning animals alive and tossing them into piles? They'd wriggle around for awhile before finally dying.
That's some screwed up 'culture'.
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In my lifetime with the exception of AIDS. Every funky new flu, virus, disease comes from China [bleep]
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Are they eating this stuff because not much more is available or is it a preference?
We cannot change their culture, no one says they have to be the exclusive spot to do business. Apparently we have not learned that it is not expensive doing business in China. Short term cheap crap long term extreme pain.
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Fake news, everybody knows that this was man-made in the Chinese DNA laboratory at Wuhan, just as Dean Koontz predicted in 1981.
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Imagine tearing into that cooked down with sweet potatoes and real butter. mmmm Imagine them with the heads, wings and legs off, skinned, and roasting next to a squirrel........or a rat? They might be pretty tasty. Likely it's not the eating of them that got some Chinese folks sick, but the handling of live ones in a market somewhere. Lamb don't taste so bad, but I'm not sure I want to go buy one live in a market in Marakesh and have Ali butcher it there on the spot for me. Geno Youdo bring up a pretty good point.
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Tucker had piece on the subject last night. Seems the 2 bio labs in and around wuhan were using the fugging things to play around with the flu virus. Hmmmmmmmm...
Just like has been said, the chinese experimenting with the schitt. The nearest population of the fugging things is like 900 miles from the city.
Some either got loose and magically flew to wet market to be bought Dumb azz scientist caught it in the lab..... Dumb azz scientist taking the carcasses home and eating em or bringing em to the wet market to sell and make some bucks.....
Chinese govt boi warfare plan to show the world how dependant the global economy is on them.........
I go with chicom govt warfare plan myself......
Wuhan was their petri dish....... Bet they have had a vaccine for a long time....
Whole thing raises alot of questions........
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Something clever here.
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Low grade bio weapon is my personal belief.
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Low grade bio weapon is my personal belief. If so, it's proven to be pretty fuggin effective, no?
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you there, AK dude, Stop bringing science into this forum. Did you see the (375) above what's highlighted? Who's honestly going to believe anyone cites 375 papers when writing one? Gotta be fake science too, like fake news. Geno Actually, it's 434 references. https://cmr.asm.org/content/20/4/660
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About the only thing that could have been done would have been for the Chinese to wage a psyops campaign against eating bats.
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Sick bastards....NUKE CHINA!!!
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Do they eat hot bat wings at sporting events like we do chicken wings?
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Has anybody ever given thought to the possibility that in the process of creation China and North America were put on opposite sides of the planet with the assumption that they would never ever be able to mingle, and therefore create such diseases that were hostile to each other. As part of the grand experiment ya know :):).
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Fly's in the face of globalism, we need to ignore that.
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