Opening the Atchafalya isn't gonna wash any cities away. The problem is trying to get all of the cattle out and the people out of the way. People live IN and graze their livestock IN the spillway. (supposedly at their own risk wink, wink)
It's easier and more politically expedient to open the Bonne Care. Don't need to ask permission to do that. Last year they came very close to opening the Atchafalya because the Bonne Carre just wasn't enough. The timing is better with the BC because the weir can be accessed longer in order to open the bays even after the weir is flooded.(the rail road tracks above the locks can still be accessed with the high water) With the Atchafalaya, that call to open needs to be made sooner because the structure itself will be under water and wont allow access to open the bays.
I bet if you asked any commercial or recreational fisherman on the east side of the river, they would tell you it's the west sides turn to take a hit.
JMO
Clyde
The liberal mind is an endless black hole of stupidity.
Opening the Atchafalya isn't gonna wash any cities away. The problem is trying to get all of the cattle out and the people out of the way. People live IN and graze their livestock IN the spillway. (supposedly at their own risk wink, wink)
It's easier and more politically expedient to open the Bonne Care. Don't need to ask permission to do that. Last year they came very close to opening the Atchafalya because the Bonne Carre just wasn't enough. The timing is better with the BC because the weir can be accessed longer in order to open the bays even after the weir is flooded.(the rail road tracks above the locks can still be accessed with the high water) With the Atchafalaya, that call to open needs to be made sooner because the structure itself will be under water and wont allow access to open the bays.
I bet if you asked any commercial or recreational fisherman on the east side of the river, they would tell you it's the west sides turn to take a hit.
JMO
Clyde
I know some folks that would argue the point about opening the Atchafalaya Basin.
Question: Other than dynamiting the levees,,,,how would you divert to the west side?
The Corp opened the Bonnet Carre 3 times last year.
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Opening the Atchafalya isn't gonna wash any cities away. The problem is trying to get all of the cattle out and the people out of the way. People live IN and graze their livestock IN the spillway. (supposedly at their own risk wink, wink)
It's easier and more politically expedient to open the Bonne Care. Don't need to ask permission to do that. Last year they came very close to opening the Atchafalya because the Bonne Carre just wasn't enough. The timing is better with the BC because the weir can be accessed longer in order to open the bays even after the weir is flooded.(the rail road tracks above the locks can still be accessed with the high water) With the Atchafalaya, that call to open needs to be made sooner because the structure itself will be under water and wont allow access to open the bays.
I bet if you asked any commercial or recreational fisherman on the east side of the river, they would tell you it's the west sides turn to take a hit.
JMO
Clyde
I know some folks that would argue the point about opening the Atchafalaya Basin.
Question: Other than dynamiting the levees,,,,how would you divert to the west side?
The Corp opened the Bonnet Carre 3 times last year.
Note to self.....it's the Morganza. Spillway.
Sorry for the mind fart.
Clyde
The liberal mind is an endless black hole of stupidity.
This is what it looks like at Morganza with the floodgates open. I don’t remember how many were open and how many were closed. I filmed this in May of 2012.
The morganza which leads into the Atchafalaya is on the west side of the river. There would be no need to blow up levees. Bonne Carre is on the east side of the river. I live 12 miles from the BC in Kenner.
Clyde
The liberal mind is an endless black hole of stupidity.
Opening the Atchafalya isn't gonna wash any cities away. The problem is trying to get all of the cattle out and the people out of the way. People live IN and graze their livestock IN the spillway. (supposedly at their own risk wink, wink)
It's easier and more politically expedient to open the Bonne Care. Don't need to ask permission to do that. Last year they came very close to opening the Atchafalya because the Bonne Carre just wasn't enough. The timing is better with the BC because the weir can be accessed longer in order to open the bays even after the weir is flooded.(the rail road tracks above the locks can still be accessed with the high water) With the Atchafalaya, that call to open needs to be made sooner because the structure itself will be under water and wont allow access to open the bays.
I bet if you asked any commercial or recreational fisherman on the east side of the river, they would tell you it's the west sides turn to take a hit.
JMO
Clyde
I know some folks that would argue the point about opening the Atchafalaya Basin.
Question: Other than dynamiting the levees,,,,how would you divert to the west side?
The Corp opened the Bonnet Carre 3 times last year.
Note to self.....it's the Morganza. Spillway.
Sorry for the mind fart.
Clyde
Morganza is only opened when the Mississippi river flow volume reaches a specific number of mm scfm flow rate, generally taken at The Red River gauge. The Morganza Spillway is the diversion of last resort and has been from the day that it was completed .
You might enjoy a few things related. 1. Go to a Corp public meeting. Very informative, no bullscchitt. 2. If you haven’t already done so, pick up a copy of “Rising Tide” by John Barry who won a Well deserved Pulitzer Prise for it. Any one who has ever so much as crossed the Mississippi River on an Interstate bridge should read it. DONT start reading it on a evening that you have something important to do the next day. 3. C.C. Lockwood’s “Around The Bend” is a good read too that begins up where you can walk across the river. 4. Being told that Morganza use is a real possibility for this year as it was last year and came near being as you may recall.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
IIRC, they opened about 1/2 of the Morganza in 2012. The engineers were real careful in determining how much water to let loose and who was gonna flood, of course they didnt have a clue and were made to look like the fools they are. Water didnt get nearly as high as they had predicted and a lot of people moved that didnt have to. Very few, if any, got flooded and that made the people mad. Not that they didn't flood, but that the corps made them move/abandon the area and none, not much, of it flooded.
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Opening the Atchafalya isn't gonna wash any cities away. The problem is trying to get all of the cattle out and the people out of the way. People live IN and graze their livestock IN the spillway. (supposedly at their own risk wink, wink)
It's easier and more politically expedient to open the Bonne Care. Don't need to ask permission to do that. Last year they came very close to opening the Atchafalya because the Bonne Carre just wasn't enough. The timing is better with the BC because the weir can be accessed longer in order to open the bays even after the weir is flooded.(the rail road tracks above the locks can still be accessed with the high water) With the Atchafalaya, that call to open needs to be made sooner because the structure itself will be under water and wont allow access to open the bays.
I bet if you asked any commercial or recreational fisherman on the east side of the river, they would tell you it's the west sides turn to take a hit.
JMO
Clyde
I know some folks that would argue the point about opening the Atchafalaya Basin.
Question: Other than dynamiting the levees,,,,how would you divert to the west side?
The Corp opened the Bonnet Carre 3 times last year.
Note to self.....it's the Morganza. Spillway.
Sorry for the mind fart.
Clyde
Morganza is only opened when the Mississippi river flow volume reaches a specific number of mm scfm flow rate, generally taken at The Red River gauge. The Morganza Spillway is the diversion of last resort and has been from the day that it was completed .
You might enjoy a few things related. 1. Go to a Corp public meeting. Very informative, no bullscchitt. 2. If you haven’t already done so, pick up a copy of “Rising Tide” by John Barry who won a Well deserved Pulitzer Prise for it. Any one who has ever so much as crossed the Mississippi River on an Interstate bridge should read it. DONT start reading it on a evening that you have something important to do the next day. 3. C.C. Lockwood’s “Around The Bend” is a good read too that begins up where you can walk across the river. 4. Being told that Morganza use is a real possibility for this year as it was last year and came near being as you may recall.
Toot, thanks for the reference. Added Rising Tide to my next Amazon order.
Opening the Atchafalya isn't gonna wash any cities away. The problem is trying to get all of the cattle out and the people out of the way. People live IN and graze their livestock IN the spillway. (supposedly at their own risk wink, wink)
It's easier and more politically expedient to open the Bonne Care. Don't need to ask permission to do that. Last year they came very close to opening the Atchafalya because the Bonne Carre just wasn't enough. The timing is better with the BC because the weir can be accessed longer in order to open the bays even after the weir is flooded.(the rail road tracks above the locks can still be accessed with the high water) With the Atchafalaya, that call to open needs to be made sooner because the structure itself will be under water and wont allow access to open the bays.
I bet if you asked any commercial or recreational fisherman on the east side of the river, they would tell you it's the west sides turn to take a hit.
JMO
Clyde
I know some folks that would argue the point about opening the Atchafalaya Basin.
Question: Other than dynamiting the levees,,,,how would you divert to the west side?
The Corp opened the Bonnet Carre 3 times last year.
Note to self.....it's the Morganza. Spillway.
Sorry for the mind fart.
Clyde
Morganza is only opened when the Mississippi river flow volume reaches a specific number of mm scfm flow rate, generally taken at The Red River gauge. The Morganza Spillway is the diversion of last resort and has been from the day that it was completed .
You might enjoy a few things related. 1. Go to a Corp public meeting. Very informative, no bullscchitt. 2. If you haven’t already done so, pick up a copy of “Rising Tide” by John Barry who won a Well deserved Pulitzer Prise for it. Any one who has ever so much as crossed the Mississippi River on an Interstate bridge should read it. DONT start reading it on a evening that you have something important to do the next day. 3. C.C. Lockwood’s “Around The Bend” is a good read too that begins up where you can walk across the river. 4. Being told that Morganza use is a real possibility for this year as it was last year and came near being as you may recall.
Toot, thanks for the reference. Added Rising Tide to my next Amazon order.
I promise you’ll enjoy it and pass it on to friends.
Get “Around The Bend”, too. Ole Cactus Clyde Lockwood does a great job and his award winning photography is second to none. C.C. Has his studio close to where I live and I’ve visited several times.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
IIRC, they opened about 1/2 of the Morganza in 2012. The engineers were real careful in determining how much water to let loose and who was gonna flood, of course they didnt have a clue and were made to look like the fools they are. Water didnt get nearly as high as they had predicted and a lot of people moved that didnt have to. Very few, if any, got flooded and that made the people mad. Not that they didn't flood, but that the corps made them move/abandon the area and none, not much, of it flooded.
They erred to the safe side.
The main thing that prevented the downstream flooding was the amount of trees that slowed the flow and caused it to disperse in a wider fashion.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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