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Originally Posted by flintlocke
Why would anybody want to spend 40 bucks for just one sit down movie experience when you can have stuff like Bosch, Ozark, Breaking Bad , Call Saul, in your living room? The writers of these productions outshine anything coming out of old Hollywood anyway, with their endlessly boring computer generated "action" scenes.




Agree.

But, you forgot the social engineering.

Why all the lesbians and trannys? There aren't anywhere near that many in real life.

And, all the talk about protecting illegal immigrants' rights. Gimme a break


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Originally Posted by cs2blue
The Ruth Langmore actress is by far my favorite character on the show. she is awesome, troubled, complex white trash, with some smarts. I predict she ends up taking over the whole operation over when Marty is retired and or killed off. We are watching one episode per week to stretch it out. Love it.


She really nails the part.

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Spoilers here.

Like'em or hate'em, most all of the characters are very three dimensional. Not like most soap opera BS writing where you immediately know all you need to know about a character the first scene they're in. Ruth and Wendy being the obvious ones but Marty, Wyatt, Jonah - they all have a lot of layers. Wendy is torn between her need to succeed which clashes with her other overwhelming desire to protect her family at all costs. She'll even give the go ahead to kill her own brother.

I didn't care much for Ben at first but that whole story arc was superb - you saw how tight they were as brother and sister and how much she loved him and had protected and supported him growing up together, but then she finally realized that he was a threat to her kids and there was nothing she could do to reverse that. She did what had to be done and it tore her apart. Plus it completely and perhaps irrevocably alienated the very people she was protecting, her kids. Ben's slow descent into outright madness when he was off of his meds was extremely well done.

Watching Helen get hers was really satisfying but that kind of came out of left field which is unusual for this show. She was cold blooded as hell but even she had her personal demons and obviously wanted to protect her kid. You kind of figured a stone bitch like her was going to be killed but you didn't really know how. For a few minutes I was really hoping that Jonah was going to take her head clean off, that would have made an interesting character development.

But her death was a bit of an anomaly coming like it did - how did Navarro make that decision? You can tell great writing if after something happens you can think back and go "oh, yeah", that was foreshadowed by such and such four episodes ago but you didn't realize it until now. That's what impressed me so much about the first season, it was a good story excellently told and the show has managed to hold that level of quality for all three seasons so far.

Really looking forward to season four.



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It was easy for Navarro to make that decision. She was a good lawyer, but expendable and was having it out with Marty, who wasn't. Wendy is expendable too but Marty is more of a team player with her alive and she does bring some stuff to the table. Navarro could kill Wendy and still have Marty's kids to hold over his head. Thus far, Wendy survives. Cartel had probably already brought in the conservative lawyer to replace her. Action is in the Ozarks right now and not in Chitcago where Bull Dyke was a major player. Need for Ozark-centric lawyer and they've got one. Witness and drag on the game eliminated.

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Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by flintlocke
Why would anybody want to spend 40 bucks for just one sit down movie experience when you can have stuff like Bosch, Ozark, Breaking Bad , Call Saul, in your living room? The writers of these productions outshine anything coming out of old Hollywood anyway, with their endlessly boring computer generated "action" scenes.




Agree.

But, you forgot the social engineering.

Why all the lesbians and trannys? There aren't anywhere near that many in real life.

And, all the talk about protecting illegal immigrants' rights. Gimme a break
It was believable to have a f ag in the FBI. Everybody knows the Feebs are mainly fa gg ots.

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Animal Kingdom is another must-see.

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I started watching last week. Season 1. I like the show but could do without all of the foul language and sex. Seems like every series that has a decent story has to add that. It’s just not necessary.


Wait till it catches the gay...

That pisses me off more than anything. So many times, I have started watching a show, and after a few episodes, just when you get into the story, bam, the evil phuggers slip in a gay scene. It's phuggin evil.


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That little redneck chick is kind of a badass bitch. Wouldn't want to cross her.


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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
It was easy for Navarro to make that decision. She was a good lawyer, but expendable and was having it out with Marty, who wasn't. Wendy is expendable too but Marty is more of a team player with her alive and she does bring some stuff to the table. Navarro could kill Wendy and still have Marty's kids to hold over his head. Thus far, Wendy survives. Cartel had probably already brought in the conservative lawyer to replace her. Action is in the Ozarks right now and not in Chitcago where Bull Dyke was a major player. Need for Ozark-centric lawyer and they've got one. Witness and drag on the game eliminated.


That makes sense and you can read between the lines and see why he did it, it just came as a bit of a surprise when it did.

Don't know the writers' mindset but the two FBI agents Petty and Evans are morally and ethically absolutely no different than Navarro - they rely on cold blooded extortion and intimidation, callously ruining anyone's life to meet their ends. Making them [bleep] was an interesting take. Maya is a real crusader, lofty goals, rigidly conservative in her ideals and personal conduct but as blindly goal oriented and arrogant as any crusader that ever lived.

Again - great characters and characterizations all around. You watch this and then watch an episode of The Walking Dead or Fear the Walking Dead and the stark contrast shows just how much those shows have become garbage.


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Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho

Don't know the writers' mindset but the two FBI agents Petty and Evans are morally and ethically absolutely no different than Navarro - they rely on cold blooded extortion and intimidation, callously ruining anyone's life to justify their ends.
That's what makes it realistic. True-to-life since that's what Feds, State and locals do all the time. Sheriff is very realistic too. For sale to the highest bidder. Look for Marty to buy him away from Darleen soon since he's got more money than she does.

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The first three seasons really focus on Wendy's journey from being a depressed housewife to being the player. Marty is very invaluable to Navarro but its Wendy who has worked to legitimize the business. She sold Navarro on going legitimate. Navarro has seen cartels come and go and knows that once you are a major player in the US casino business that drug dealers come and go but casino owners are made men. There will be a war between Darlene and Frank Sr. and Wyatt will get killed. Ruth is going to become the hammer of the organization.

There is always tension between Marty and Ruth(Banging like a screen door) and I wouldn't be surprised if Navarro and Wendy have an affair. We haven't seen the Lagunas and how the FBI is going to deal with Marty's confession. I am interested in how that will play out.

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