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:Hey Horse"...(said in a whisper, get it? ha) what rifle/barrel twist are you shooting that long 200 TSX in? I always figured the they were a bit long for a 10" twist. Of course, in "any" slower twist, "speed is your friend". Factory M70 Classic Winchester SS bbls (I have 3), I'm pretty sure they're 1:10.
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Woodleigh claims their 180PP will work in a 10" twisted .270 Win also. Anyhow, I'm glad you found a bullet that works for you, its got to be a 'thumper", ha.
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Not the WM but the original .....300 H&H I've not changed my load since I started with it 10 years ago...180 TTSX 71g of RL22 @3050....works great
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I used the 180 grain Nosler partitions, and they worked well. About half would exit, the other half would be found under the hide on the opposite side, usually weighing around 65%, give or take. Most of the front would be gone, the mushroomed rear is what penetrated.
I've since switched to the 200 grain partition and haven't recovered one yet. I like the partitions because the front portion almost always violently expands and seems to me causes more damage than accubonds or x bullets through the lungs, yet the rear still gives you the penetration. Nothing wrong with barnes x or accubonds Ive used them as well, I just prefer the 200 grain partitions for the reasons mentioned above.
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Gotta love a partition...thats just all there is to it, ha. Truth is, I've had so much success with Partitons/Accurbonds/Barnes that I just haven't had alot of experience with the many other fine bullets that are out there. Life is just too danged short!
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I used the 180 grain Nosler partitions, and they worked well. About half would exit, the other half would be found under the hide on the opposite side, usually weighing around 65%, give or take. Most of the front would be gone, the mushroomed rear is what penetrated.
I've since switched to the 200 grain partition and haven't recovered one yet. I like the partitions because the front portion almost always violently expands and seems to me causes more damage than accubonds or x bullets through the lungs, yet the rear still gives you the penetration. Nothing wrong with barnes x or accubonds Ive used them as well, I just prefer the 200 grain partitions for the reasons mentioned above. Ive had the same experience with the 180's shot from 300 magnums. Also made the switch to the 200 partition. They shoot flat, hit hard, penetrate deep and dont bloodshot the meat as much as the 180. Win win. I've even made that switch with my 30-06 rifles. No complaints
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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22 bulls with a 200gr partition in either a 300 win or wby for me. Launched at 2900-3050fps its a hammer. Easy to reload and excellent ballistics have made it my go to combo for everything.
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Sierra Game King, 200 grain 300 Winchester on elk.
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How did those Sierras hold up for you Pard? I have shot alot of them, in several 30-06s, but no game. Very accurate bullet though. I used the Sierra 300 SBT in a 375 H&H and it made about a 4 inch exit, behind the shoulder shot. It seemed kind of soft to me? I have heard that the 200 SBT is pretty tough and sometimes is slow to open up on deer, for example. That just means, to me, it should be good on elk or big hogs, etc.
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How did those Sierras hold up for you Pard? I have shot alot of them, in several 30-06s, but no game. Very accurate bullet though. I used the Sierra 300 SBT in a 375 H&H and it made about a 4 inch exit, behind the shoulder shot. It seemed kind of soft to me? I have heard that the 200 SBT is pretty tough and sometimes is slow to open up on deer, for example. That just means, to me, it should be good on elk or big hogs, etc. Jim, I spoke with a technician at Sierra for a spell on the horn one afternoon and asked his advice on the 200 Gr. SBT for elk. Throughout the conversation, mostly listening on my part, I gathered I hit the jackpot on my inquiry. It would be tough to find a better bullet for taking elk sized critters. I doubt I will ever choose differently when and if I ever arrive at elk camp. Thanks
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Thanks Pard. I finally got my RWS brass I wanted to try and the Barnes 175 LRX in some trial loads tonight. I can seat them out to 3.5" and still be .050 off the lands in this Bergara! I used R26 and still had plenty of room in the case w/o bad compression, if any. I don't know if they will shoot...but man they are pretty! ha
Onstep...22 bulls...I am so jealous! I would have loved to just hang out with you and help with the pack out, ha. Thats a great record!
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Thanks Pard. I finally got my RWS brass I wanted to try and the Barnes 175 LRX in some trial loads tonight. I can seat them out to 3.5" and still be .050 off the lands in this Bergara! I used R26 and still had plenty of room in the case w/o bad compression, if any. I don't know if they will shoot...but man they are pretty! ha
Onstep...22 bulls...I am so jealous! I would have loved to just hang out with you and help with the pack out, ha. Thats a great record!
That's a hell of a record here in oregon. I'd have to hunt 44 years before I got 22 bulls around here in a 4% success rate unit that I hunt in...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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BSA- I can "almost relate" with you guys, I grew up hunting 'The Big Thicket" its called in E.TX, ha. It rained alot too. But we only had deer and hogs. Having seen some of the places you guys hunt, and for elk, its got to be a tough place to hunt! The only Roosevelt Elk I've seen were on an Exotic Game Ranch , years ago, in Texas, tall and "short wheelbase", ha.
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I'm surprised to see no love for the Swift Sirocco II bullets. I shoot the 180gr at a shade under 3000fps and have taken countless Kudu, Impala, Warthog etc with that load (I live in South Africa). Great BC for longer shots on the plains and it holds up really well at closer ranges.
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I'm surprised to see no love for the Swift Sirocco II bullets. I shoot the 180gr at a shade under 3000fps and have taken countless Kudu, Impala, Warthog etc with that load (I live in South Africa). Great BC for longer shots on the plains and it holds up really well at closer ranges. I like them quite alot. Probably my favorite bonded bullet actually!
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I really like the Nosler 180BT for a traditional bullet and the Barnes 175 LRX for a mono.
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200gr Partition, 71gr H4831, CCI 250, Winchester brass. It’s not the fastest load in the world, but my shots are mostly under 50 to 100 yards. Works as well as my 30-06.....
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Mine is: 230 gr. Berger OTM Hybrid Tactical Match 75 gr. H1000 GM215M primer 2750 fps Three one shot kills since I settled in on this load.
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I have shot 6 in the last 3 years with 175gr bergers but I am going back to a 180 accubond or similar. They all died right there but there was no blood on any of them. Internal damage was severe but I worry one day on e will get away with no blood trail.
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I also just made a deal on a 300WSM, pairing it with the Bergara. When it gets here, I think I'll try those same 175 LRX in it too. I use to load for a fellow's 300WSM, with the 168 TSX. That's all he shoots in it. I have the 150 TTSX too, if the 175 doesn't want to shoot. One thing I always liked about hunting with any 300 Mag, even though I never shot unwounded game past 375, those "wide open spaces" don't intimidate me as bad, ha. IOW, If God Forbid I wound a cow, I want to be able to shoot at it as far out as 500. I'd be guessing after that. I shot/checked the drops on my last 7mm RUM/140 TTSX out to 700, but wasn't confident past 600. I don't know how some of you guys do it!
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