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Just ordered one from Optics Planet for my 870 Tac-14. Great discounted deal there, and zero shipping. Turns the Tac-14 into a large flashlight that you can, if you choose, use to blast a hole in whatever you're lighting up, LOL.
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Neither. These things are a total waste of time. Run a standard scattergun with less LOP and a short tube. These things are worthless +P
It�s a magazine not a clip......
Advice is seldom welcome, and those who need it the most, like it the least.� - Lord Chesterfield. 1750
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@Passport,
Based on how many you've shot?
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Neither. These things are a total waste of time. Run a standard scattergun with less LOP and a short tube. These things are worthless +P exactly, a toy.
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Neither. These things are a total waste of time. Run a standard scattergun with less LOP and a short tube. These things are worthless +P exactly, a toy. It would be pretty ideal if you lived in a camper where it wasn't legal to possess a handgun.
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@JimmyP, Same question. @Passport,
Based on how many you've shot?
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@JimmyP, Same question. @Passport,
Based on how many you've shot? This toy is a great Social Distancing implement. Just saying.
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what’s functionally different from that to a “shotgun?”
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Remington. After playing with both.
Yup.
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what’s functionally different from that to a “shotgun?” A quick tale of the tape. Maybe 4-5 inches shorter. Pistol grip on a 18 1/2 inch barrel nets you slightly shorter but still the factor of no butt stock. Not a probemo if you want a tax stamp. Gotta be less time than time out for a suppressor and cheaper too.
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Remington. After playing with both. Gotta say the Remington does work better with the safety with the pistol grip than the Mossy but you lose the option of the 1 3/4 shells. Game changer. 9 shots vs 4.
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Screw both of them, they remind me of the Mare’s Leg.
I’ve been looking at the Kel-tec.
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Let us know what you choose and how you like it.
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Daveed,
I bought one of the first Shockwaves I could find and my brother did the same with the Tac-14. He visited and a huge part of our day-to-day entertainment was throwing clays and shooting both of them side by side.
Neither gun saw boxes of shells. They saw cases of shells.
At the end of the week we all (my brother, myself, and my son) agreed that the edge went to the Shockwave due to the tang safety and extra capacity. But we had no malfunctions with either one and both shot great.
Anybody that thinks they are toys either has no experience with one or can't shoot a shotgun. They are deadly accurate once you get through the slight learning curve they require.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Deflave, do you still have it and like it?
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At my side as I type.
Love it.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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How about the Remington V-3 Tac-13? Semiauto and reportedly reliable.
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Not getting into the pissing match of what is better, Mossberg or Remington pump but I can tell you, when I started hunting at age 12 over 38 years ago, I used a used 70's vintage Mossberg 500, 20 gauge, the one that had an adjustable choke at the top of the barrel. Between shooting clays, ducks, rabbits grouse and woodcock, I would guess I put over 1000 shots through that gun and never had a malfunction.
For my 18th birthday/HS Graduation, my fathers best friend and a man I called uncle Joe gave me a Mossberg 500 20 gauge camper, had a pistol grip stock in a shoulder strapped carrying case. Being young and trying to figure out what to use it for, I shot clays, rabbits, ducks and used to bring camping for plinking and protection, 500+ rounds later, that gun still sits next to my bed for self home defence.
Mossberg 500's just seem to work and work well for me, my boys and a large number of friends. I have thought many times about a shockwave but the pistol grip just works for me and the 20 gauge then was just as effective as now. Nothing against the shockwave, I just seem to control the PG a bit better. I am also biased in my love for the Mossberg as they were made in not just my home state, my hometown, the factory a half mile away from where Marlins were made
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I have fired TAC 13 and 14 fun but not practical. 13 will not cycle if held loosely, but kicks less than 14, 14 cannot hold onto slick magpul fore end if you aim it, about 200 rounds fired buck, bird and a few slugs. The 13 is a lot of fun to shoot, it’s just not a practical self defense gun. The 14 flies out of your support hand with buck.
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I have fired TAC 13 and 14 fun but not practical. 13 will not cycle if held loosely, but kicks less than 14, 14 cannot hold onto slick magpul fore end if you aim it, about 200 rounds fired buck, bird and a few slugs. The 13 is a lot of fun to shoot, it’s just not a practical self defense gun. The 14 flies out of your support hand with buck. Thanks for that info.
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