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And Whiskey
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WE WAS SLAVES! 😡
I demand reparations...... Yep, we was, and were farther down the social Totem Pole than blacks. Still, I don't get all butt hurt when someone calls me a " Mick" And I haven't asked for reparations...yet. Least we all forget our Irish ancestors had no value unlike some pigmented types who came here with a value. No one protected their Irish investment when it came to the Irish, there'd be another boatload shortly
Be Polite , Be Professional , but have a plan to kill everybody you meet -General James Mattis United States Marine Corps
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The only reason nobody "conquered" Ireland was there was nothing there worth the effort, except raiding for slaves. It's really that simple.
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You guys are completely missing the point. My daughter is hilarious. She's 9. This never happens^^^^Laffin 😂 High, you’re right, your daughter is hilarious. 😎
Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”
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All of this is just anti-Irish racism. Hey Mick...go draw another stout and STFU! with all due respect...
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Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce “The Devil's Dictionary”
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For the English, an unconquered Ireland, like an independent Scotland, was a knife at their back, forever making alliances with France and Spain.
The Irish themselves remained splendidly retrograde, successive English invaders invaded, married into the local warring clans, and went native, “more Irish than the Irish”, over generations. Elizabethan armies found themselves facing the sort of combatants the Romans could have faced 1,500 years earlier including horsemen without stirrups hurling javelins.
Throughout all this time more Irish were killed by other Irish than by the English.
Bringing in Prods to settle the land from the adjoining Scottish lowlands changed all that, dispossessing the Native Catholic Irish beginning with Ulster.
The Republic of Ireland won independence the same way the subject peoples across the rest of the Empire did; in a large part due to the restraint of the increasingly decent Brits, using British laws and principles against them. If a people voted themselves free under British Law, England was powerless to stop them.
The clueless here used to chant “England Out of Ireland” on St Paddy’s Day. Worse, they gave money to the scum that were the IRA. From what I saw England would have LOVED to get out of Ireland, but could not because of a million-plus Ulster Prods who would NEVER vote themselves and Ulster out of the United Kingdom.
But, the former despised Ulster Catholic minority is now becoming the majority, many of whom also want to stay British also.
The EU diffused a lot of the tension, all border barriers dismantled, and the Republic for better or worse is no longer under the thumb of the Catholic Church, it has now gone, like Scotland, far Progressive Leftist.
Ironically, the Ulster Prods, staunchly Pro-Life, have found themselves allied with the Catholic Church on that issue when the Republic legalized abortion on demand.
Another issue was Brexit, membership in the EU benefitted both Northern Ireland and the Republic, neither entity wants a return to hard borders and separate currencies.
As for myself, I’m glad I don’t have to have a dog in that fight. Of course I value my Irish Catholic roots, is who I am, I also am enormously impressed by the Prods, possibly the toughest people in the world.
Ulster Prods emigrated to our Frontier and gave us the American culture we here treasure.
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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I'm half Irish, but I don't drink. My older family members did it, and I learned from their mistakes. We must have a gene that likes booze way too much. I do know how to fight though!
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Know what a 7- course meal is in Ireland??? Scroll down....... A sixpack of beer and a baked potato... And yes - I'm half Irish...
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Family tree littered with alcoholics here, but the city I live in has the highest rate of DWI arrests in the nation and us Irish actually ain’t in the majority. I have long heard that Russia is drinking itself to death too. Then of course there’s that whole Rez thing.
Prob’ly ain’t just the Irish.
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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Mostly a mix of Black Irish and Blackfoot Sioux
Phil
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"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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'Four legs good, two legs baaaad." ---------------------------------------------- "Jimmy, some of it's magic, Some of it's tragic, But I had a good life all the way." (Jimmy Buffett)
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WE WAS SLAVES! 😡
I demand reparations...... I've been saying that for years. Doubt Perfidious Albion will ever come through though. They are after perfidious.
'Four legs good, two legs baaaad." ---------------------------------------------- "Jimmy, some of it's magic, Some of it's tragic, But I had a good life all the way." (Jimmy Buffett)
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Níl imní orm faoi labhairt cac ar agus fu ck ing sassenach.
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The O'Birdy's, or at least my O'Birdy's, were from Southwest Cork, one of the poorest regions in Ireland and hard hit by the famine. Near as we can gather we were established as Merchant Marine in Queenstown (Cork Harbor) by that time, tho throngs of the starving and desperate showed up there.
A million died in the famine, the other seven million people in Ireland at that time did not. I do wonder what hard choices my ancestors had to make to stay alive during those years.
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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That reminds me that I wrote a paper on the Potato Famine for a history course in college. Seems like the blame lay on The Corn Laws. Wonder where that paper could be.
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All my life I figured my DNA was predominately Irish because of my reddish hair and very light complexion,...which obviously came from my Paternal grandmother.
A DNA test indicated that I was about 20% Irish and 70% english.
I would have thought those percentages reversed.
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Mostly a mix of Black Irish and Blackfoot Sioux
Phil Please define "black Irish"
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