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"Prods" is hate-speech.


What about Sassenach?

Níl imní orm faoi labhairt cac ar agus fu ck ing sassenach.


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Originally Posted by 700LH
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Mostly a mix of Black Irish and Blackfoot Sioux

Phil

Please define "black Irish"


Ulster Scots?


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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Originally Posted by 700LH
Originally Posted by Greyghost
Mostly a mix of Black Irish and Blackfoot Sioux

Phil

Please define "black Irish"


Ulster Scots?

Apperently several used throughout history. I was curious about what Phils was.

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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
The O'Birdy's, or at least my O'Birdy's, were from Southwest Cork, one of the poorest regions in Ireland and hard hit by the famine. Near as we can gather we were established as Merchant Marine in Queenstown (Cork Harbor) by that time, tho throngs of the starving and desperate showed up there.

A million died in the famine, the other seven million people in Ireland at that time did not. I do wonder what hard choices my ancestors had to make to stay alive during those years.


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Originally Posted by 700LH
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Originally Posted by 700LH
Originally Posted by Greyghost
Mostly a mix of Black Irish and Blackfoot Sioux

Phil

Please define "black Irish"


Ulster Scots?

Apperently several used throughout history. I was curious about what Phils was.


Please forgive! Understood! 😉


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Originally Posted by 700LH
Originally Posted by Greyghost
Mostly a mix of Black Irish and Blackfoot Sioux

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Please define "black Irish"



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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
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Mostly a mix of Black Irish and Blackfoot Sioux

Phil

Please define "black Irish"


Ulster Scots?


Black Irish:

When the whole Spanish Armada set out to destroy England they feel into a vicious storm in the Irish Sea and the Armada, as a threatening force, was no more.

Spaniards who managed to survive the storm mostly washed ashore off the coast of Ireland. As the Irish hated the English, they took in the Spanish survivors who intermarried within the Irish culture producing some of the most beautiful women the world has ever known having jet black hair and blue/green eyes.


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Originally Posted by Greyghost
Mostly a mix of Black Irish and Blackfoot Sioux

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Proof that the American Indians phhuuccckkked buffalo.


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Originally Posted by 5sdad

That reminds me that I wrote a paper on the Potato Famine for a history course in college. Seems like the blame lay on The Corn Laws. Wonder where that paper could be.


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Going on four years back now I bicycled through this place, Abbeystrowry just outside of Skibbereen, County Cork. It was a Wednesday evening and, as luck would have it, there was an outdoor Catholic Mass about to start.

I swear, all the congregation looked like my blood kin, and the kindly grey-haired Irish Priest was straight out of Central Casting.

He gave a pretty interesting sermon. First off, a million plus suddenly without food would be hard to deal with even today, let alone in the UK in the 1840's. Then he went on at length to describe the many charitable organizations that began, in England and elsewhere, to raise funds and send food to the worst-hit areas (heck, here in the US even the Choctaws sent money). In particular, he singled out a group of British University students who were extraordinarily effective.

I think the moral of his story was that history written simplistically in black and white is usually wrong.

The famine? I blame a fungus.


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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
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That reminds me that I wrote a paper on the Potato Famine for a history course in college. Seems like the blame lay on The Corn Laws. Wonder where that paper could be.


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Going on four years back now I bicycled through this place, Abbeystrowry just outside of Skibbereen, County Cork. It was a Wednesday evening and, as luck would have it, there was an outdoor Catholic Mass about to start.

I swear, all the congregation looked like my blood kin, and the kindly grey-haired Irish Priest was straight out of Central Casting.

He gave a pretty interesting sermon. First off, a million plus suddenly without food would be hard to deal with even today, let alone in the UK in the 1840's. Then he went on at length to describe the many charitable organizations that began, in England and elsewhere, to raise funds and send food to the worst-hit areas (heck, here in the US even the Choctaws sent money). In particular, he singled out a group of British University students who were extraordinarily effective.

I think the moral of his story was that history written simplistically in black and white is usually wrong.

The famine? I blame a fungus.



The potato blight came from Mexico to Ireland.


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
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Originally Posted by 5sdad

That reminds me that I wrote a paper on the Potato Famine for a history course in college. Seems like the blame lay on The Corn Laws. Wonder where that paper could be.


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Going on four years back now I bicycled through this place, Abbeystrowry just outside of Skibbereen, County Cork. It was a Wednesday evening and, as luck would have it, there was an outdoor Catholic Mass about to start.

I swear, all the congregation looked like my blood kin, and the kindly grey-haired Irish Priest was straight out of Central Casting.

He gave a pretty interesting sermon. First off, a million plus suddenly without food would be hard to deal with even today, let alone in the UK in the 1840's. Then he went on at length to describe the many charitable organizations that began, in England and elsewhere, to raise funds and send food to the worst-hit areas (heck, here in the US even the Choctaws sent money). In particular, he singled out a group of British University students who were extraordinarily effective.

I think the moral of his story was that history written simplistically in black and white is usually wrong.

The famine? I blame a fungus.



The potato blight came from Mexico to Ireland.


The famine? I blame the Mexicans.


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Originally Posted by 700LH
Please define "black Irish"

Groid.


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
The only reason nobody "conquered" Ireland was there was nothing there worth the effort, except raiding for slaves. It's really that simple.


Have you ever been to Ireland?

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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Originally Posted by 5sdad

That reminds me that I wrote a paper on the Potato Famine for a history course in college. Seems like the blame lay on The Corn Laws. Wonder where that paper could be.


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Going on four years back now I bicycled through this place, Abbeystrowry just outside of Skibbereen, County Cork. It was a Wednesday evening and, as luck would have it, there was an outdoor Catholic Mass about to start.

I swear, all the congregation looked like my blood kin, and the kindly grey-haired Irish Priest was straight out of Central Casting.

He gave a pretty interesting sermon. First off, a million plus suddenly without food would be hard to deal with even today, let alone in the UK in the 1840's. Then he went on at length to describe the many charitable organizations that began, in England and elsewhere, to raise funds and send food to the worst-hit areas (heck, here in the US even the Choctaws sent money). In particular, he singled out a group of British University students who were extraordinarily effective.

I think the moral of his story was that history written simplistically in black and white is usually wrong.

The famine? I blame a fungus.



The idea wasn't that The Corn Laws caused the famine, but that they prevented its mitigation.


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Originally Posted by Salty303
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
The only reason nobody "conquered" Ireland was there was nothing there worth the effort, except raiding for slaves. It's really that simple.


Have you ever been to Ireland?

I've been to Ireland and he's somewhat correct. Ireland is extremely poor in natural resources. That's why they burnt peat for heat. No coal, no metallic ores, not great farming land. etc.

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Not sure if conquered is the correct word or not, but the Scandinavians had a strong presence in Ireland for centuries. A lot of those red-haired Irish lasses probably
inherited more of their features from some scruffy Danish pig thief than they did from any Celtic princess.

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Originally Posted by UPhiker
Originally Posted by Salty303
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
The only reason nobody "conquered" Ireland was there was nothing there worth the effort, except raiding for slaves. It's really that simple.


Have you ever been to Ireland?

I've been to Ireland and he's somewhat correct. Ireland is extremely poor in natural resources. That's why they burnt peat for heat. No coal, no metallic ores, not great farming land. etc.


We found some oil in the Irish Sea. I don’t think anything has been developed to date. It was dicey as to being declared Commercial but I don’t know if further delineation was ever done to prove or disprove it as such. The arrangement was called “Tight Hole”. Some here know what that means. It relates to the sharing of information about the activities.


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Originally Posted by UPhiker
Originally Posted by Salty303
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
The only reason nobody "conquered" Ireland was there was nothing there worth the effort, except raiding for slaves. It's really that simple.


Have you ever been to Ireland?

I've been to Ireland and he's somewhat correct. Ireland is extremely poor in natural resources. That's why they burnt peat for heat. No coal, no metallic ores, not great farming land. etc.


They have mined coal for eons. They are almost out though but so is coal.
They've been the bread basket of the region for a long time they still are. I was reading a newspaper over there last year and England for one relies on them a lot. Yes there's a lot of barren rocky ground on the north and west sides but there's some of the best farm land going otherwise. For most of their time they've had excellent fisheries inshore and off shore.

Anyways the Vikings and the Brits thought the place was OK they both invaded. They were under siege by the Brits for 800 years and the Vikings before. No one invaded because they were already invaded. They were though never conquered. And recently they had one of the best economic runs that side of the Atlantic ever in the 2000s known as "The Celtic Tiger"

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Not sure if conquered is the correct word or not, but the Scandinavians had a strong presence in Ireland for centuries. A lot of those red-haired Irish lasses probably
inherited more of their features from some scruffy Danish pig thief than they did from any Celtic princess.



The Vikings did a few things right.


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Originally Posted by Salty303
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Originally Posted by Salty303
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
The only reason nobody "conquered" Ireland was there was nothing there worth the effort, except raiding for slaves. It's really that simple.


Have you ever been to Ireland?

I've been to Ireland and he's somewhat correct. Ireland is extremely poor in natural resources. That's why they burnt peat for heat. No coal, no metallic ores, not great farming land. etc.


They have mined coal for eons. They are almost out though but so is coal.
They've been the bread basket of the region for a long time they still are. I was reading a newspaper over there last year and England for one relies on them a lot. Yes there's a lot of barren rocky ground on the north and west sides but there's some of the best farm land going otherwise. For most of their time they've had excellent fisheries inshore and off shore.

Anyways the Vikings and the Brits thought the place was OK they both invaded. They were under siege by the Brits for 800 years and the Vikings before. No one invaded because they were already invaded. They were though never conquered. And recently they had one of the best economic runs that side of the Atlantic ever in the 2000s known as "The Celtic Tiger"


Several major industries set up shop there for the tax benefits that Ireland offers,,,,,,,,kinda like Trump has done.


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