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Should've prepared. Hard to feel sympathy for folks that could've, but chose not too. Jackmountain=JackWAGON Man, right, wrong, or indifferent, folks are taking a HIT right now.
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You despair, repeatedly, constantly! daily basis?
A despair ninny.
Sack up, despire ninny.
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Ive donated to local food banks for years and now help shop and deliver groceries to elderly shut ins during the quarantine. And I help at the local animal shelters now every day. Charity is very important in society.
I ve seen the lines at food banks before this crisis and a lot of people have zero life skills and if you gave them $2000 it would be gone in a day spent on lotto tickets, tattoos, gambling, booze, drugs, gold jewelry. A good percentage of people in the food lines don't really need food and just want free schit and want the get it before their neighbor.
I am more than happy to help people that truly need it but we do have a nation of parasites and free loaders.
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The thing is, "entitlement" programs haven't been affected by this "pandemic" so the majority of those who were already receiving government assistance haven't suffered any loss of income and aren't needing any more help than usual.
It's those who were gainfully employed that are suffering and needing help now, many of whom probably lived close to the edge before this but made a little too much to qualify for assistance.
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Most of us have the knowledge, ambition and means to head out and shoot a squirrel or rabbit for the pot. Mix in a cheap bag of beans, and voila. Takes knowledge, ambition and means.
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AND whats weird to me its often those in urban areas. The ones with the ability's to make way more than us in rural US on average. In fact most fast food folks in urban areas make very little less if not the same or more than the wife and I make doing jobs that should pay more but they don't in rural US. How is is that we prepare and they don't?
Its because they had no parenting IMHO. Education teaches NOTHING of real life. And no one wants to have responsibility any more. IMHO. Well shouldn't say no one, most don't.
When we were a faith based nation the ones really hit hard times were taken care of quite often by community and churches. Had nothing to do with .gov. reliance on the gov tit buys votes. Votes for communism in the end. Its a big vicious circle. One that can't be avoided and we are on the downhill slide in that respect and history says its going to happen. Cost of living is WAY higher in the city. My wifes nephew makes a lot more in the city than I do but also pays 2200.00 per month for an apartment. Here you can rent a two bedroom apartment for 600.00 a month. Alaska is the opposite. Its cheaper to live on the road system than in the larger urban areas. I pay more than 5K in property taxes and I bet Rost doesn't pay much. There are just a lot more incidental costs in urban areas.
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its one thing to question why many need a food bank in prosperous times
I'm not going to fault anyone who needs a helping hand with 1 in 4 small business temporarily (or perhaps permanently) shut down.
To tell someone they should have planned better in case of a global pandemic that puts us in depression type levels of the economy...I don't know, I'd hope for more concern especially for fellow Americans. I'm sure there are many children in tow with those lines.
to each his own
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I don't see the sense in people in cars waiting in line for hours and hours for the food bank. Spent wisely, you can do a lot with the money they are burning in gas.
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Should've prepared. Hard to feel sympathy for folks that could've, but chose not too.
Empathy; the capacity to understand or feel what another person is experiencing from within their frame of reference, that is, the capacity to place oneself in another's position
Nah...screw it, you wouldn't understand so disregard this post.
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Here's what we do here in Socialist Canada ....... https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/temporary-foreign-workers-quarantine-funds-1.5530842Instead of requiring that our unemployed work for their keep, we pay them unemployment benefits to stay home while we fork out $50 million to temp. foreign workers to help them come here to do the work they won't do. In the end all that $50 million goes offshore never to be spent here.
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SC--same thing happens here in the good old USA. I can't imagine the amount of US money sent to Mexico in a year. I do feel sorry for people in real need, unfortunately, there are a lot of freeloaders out there.
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There are a lot of freeloaders. No doubt. But there lots of folks that work hard, try hard, and do their best and still just getting by, now laid off with no income.
My youngest is hard worker, smart, college educated. Just took a 15% pay cut and eliminated her 401k contributions. Not her fault, but now she's barely making it. She's blessed to still have a job. It's happening to lots of people thru no fault of their own.
Personnaly, I'm in a critical industry. No way in heck we'll shut down. Lucky for me. I've lost over $250K net worth in the last 6 weeks, but I'm giving to food banks and several charities I keep tabs with. Not bragging, just saying I like to help others when I can.
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I forget what urban area it was but the news footage showed a bunch of newer vehicles in the food bank line.
Shiny new chit waiting for a handout.
Meanwhile I'll be getting in my 17 year old pickup and driving to work.
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There are some who are decidedly not worthy of our sympathies. Guy I used to work with makes a good living, his wife has a full-time job. They own their house. He drives a late model 4x4 extended cab pickup, wife has a new car, both kids drive late model cars. He told me they save a lot of money by going to the food bank. I explained that those places were not meant for folks like him, but for people who don't know where their next meal is coming from. He tells me, "Oh no, anybody can go there."
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I'm sure lots of folks need a hand up right now, BUT on the news the other eve they were doing a story on this very thing, showed a long line of cars and trucks, and what struck me was the make and model of several of them. For instance, a couple sitting in a newer F250, what a $60,000 truck, waiting for their turn for a hand out. REALLY. Here's an idea, learn how to live within your means...….too many simply take advantage of "FREE' chit....
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I see on TV lines of hundreds of cars.
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Should've prepared. Hard to feel sympathy for folks that could've, but chose not too. Do you have sympathy for those who work hard but make little and get by paycheck-to paycheck? Most are out of work now, many in service industries where they lived on tips. Those numbers are far higher than they should be in a way. I can see if you are just starting out etc... but we all make our choices. And those choices can literally mean life or death. I'm not saying we are totally prepared in our 50s either, but I'll say as much as we started from minimum wage jobs, no college as we just didn't want to and worked our tails off and if we were out of work for a year we'd survive. And we wouldn't run out of food. Sounds tough and harsh I suppose but it almost seems NO one even tries... we had em at the city office all the time. Didn't get enough hours this week, need extension on my utilities... while texting on the newest I phone.... yeah, I have some sympathy. OTOH I have Jackmountains feelings to an extent too. Rost, a lot depends upon the area itself. The area that I’m speaking of is across the Mississippi River from me in the rural delta. Got some Po folks there, lots of domestic abuse, drugs, etc. and people born into situations beyond their control. As our L*rd said, “The poor you shall always have with you”. There’s poor and that ain’t no sin to be so. Then there’s destitute and that situation is to be pitied. No lecture meant. Jus sayin. Well said Toot.
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I'm sure lots of folks need a hand up right now, BUT on the news the other eve they were doing a story on this very thing, showed a long line of cars and trucks, and what struck me was the make and model of several of them. For instance, a couple sitting in a newer F250, what a $60,000 truck, waiting for their turn for a hand out. REALLY. Here's an idea, learn how to live within your means...….too many simply take advantage of "FREE' chit.... Around here it’s not hard to drive around and see folks living in 1/2 million dollar houses with bed sheets hang up for curtains.
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Most of us have the knowledge, ambition and means to head out and shoot a squirrel or rabbit for the pot. Mix in a cheap bag of beans, and voila. Takes knowledge, ambition and means. Unless you live in the inner city or in a poor area or you’re handicapped or you have no vehicle or you have no accessible property to do it on or.......,,,,, I think that’s what you meant by “means “.
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Yeah, can you pot a rabbit in Texas or do you have to pay thousands for a lease first?
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i'm already seeing rumblings of food shortages, some producers closed due to the virus, others with supply lines compromised. sure i'd like to be able to get typical consumer goods, but if food becomes limited, becomes a more serious problem
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