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Yeah, I read that bafflegarb, too, when searching for Crenshaw's perfidy. Crenshaw provided ZERO particulars other than waving the magic words "due process" about. And you are satisfied with that. Not impressive. "Oh, yeah, OUR wonderful Republican azz-raping is completely different from the Democrat azz-raping. You'll still lose your liberty and property without a chance to confront your accuser or make anyone involved provide any shred of evidence that you are such a danger that we need to toss out the Constitution. But our GOP azz-raping will include DUE PROCESS where we make sure we _document_ the azz-raping as it occurs and remains totally vague about how it might otherwise differ. Hope that helps." Actual due process would involve an ability to defend oneself and one's property BEFORE they are confiscated and the like, preferably in court, with a lawyer, and forcing the accuser to provide proof that there is a real danger, that depriving someone of liberty and property is truly constitutional(1) and in the public interest. You can use magic words all you like, but it does not change the nature of the thing. I guess you are OK with civil asset forfeiture, too? https://collisionofchurchandstate.c...ut-due-process-you-bet-your-civil-asset/People who were not convicted of a crime have their property taken by law enforcement, and many can’t afford a lawyer, or their documentation is delayed, or some minor detail in the paperwork doesn’t please the bureaucratic gods, and suddenly their claim can be dismissed, and their property is no longer their own.
Innocent until proven guilty.
Guilty until proven innocent.
Guilty even if you’re found innocent.
Guilty even if you never had the chance to prove your innocence.
Meanwhile Due Process is over dying in the corner Romeo and Juliet style with the 4th Amendment.
And if you’re thinking “Hey, they can clear this up, because I’m sure everything law enforcement officers do is transparent,” *insert hearty laughter here* you would, once again, be wrong. . And you all fall for it when some dude with an eyepatch and a war record yelps out "but our unconstitutional government power-grab comes with DUE PROCESS." I bet you'll get what you deserve. Problem is, the rest of US will get what YOU deserve, too. ==================== No wonder conservatives haven't actually conserved anything. They don't pay attention, can't remember what happened in the past, and are willing to believe some GOP weasel's hand-waving about how he will kiss you before screwing you, whereas the mean old Democrats won;t even whisper sweet nothings into your ear before banging away. (1) Quaint notions, I know.
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Lot of typing just to admit you were wrong.
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
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Yeah, I read that bafflegarb, too, when searching for Crenshaw's perfidy. Crenshaw provided ZERO particulars other than waving the magic words "due process" about. And you are satisfied with that. Not impressive. "Oh, yeah, OUR wonderful Republican azz-raping is completely different from the Democrat azz-raping. You'll still lose your liberty and property without a chance to confront your accuser or make anyone involved provide any shred of evidence that you are such a danger that we need to toss out the Constitution. But our GOP azz-raping will include DUE PROCESS where we make sure we _document_ the azz-raping as it occurs and remains totally vague about how it might otherwise differ. Hope that helps." Actual due process would involve an ability to defend oneself and one's property BEFORE they are confiscated and the like, preferably in court, with a lawyer, and forcing the accuser to provide proof that there is a real danger, that depriving someone of liberty and property is truly constitutional(1) and in the public interest. You can use magic words all you like, but it does not change the nature of the thing. I guess you are OK with civil asset forfeiture, too? https://collisionofchurchandstate.c...ut-due-process-you-bet-your-civil-asset/People who were not convicted of a crime have their property taken by law enforcement, and many can’t afford a lawyer, or their documentation is delayed, or some minor detail in the paperwork doesn’t please the bureaucratic gods, and suddenly their claim can be dismissed, and their property is no longer their own.
Innocent until proven guilty.
Guilty until proven innocent.
Guilty even if you’re found innocent.
Guilty even if you never had the chance to prove your innocence.
Meanwhile Due Process is over dying in the corner Romeo and Juliet style with the 4th Amendment.
And if you’re thinking “Hey, they can clear this up, because I’m sure everything law enforcement officers do is transparent,” *insert hearty laughter here* you would, once again, be wrong. . And you all fall for it when some dude with an eyepatch and a war record yelps out "but our unconstitutional government power-grab comes with DUE PROCESS." I bet you'll get what you deserve. Problem is, the rest of US will get what YOU deserve, too. ==================== No wonder conservatives haven't actually conserved anything. They don't pay attention, can't remember what happened in the past, and are willing to believe some GOP weasel's hand-waving about how he will kiss you before screwing you, whereas the mean old Democrats won;t even whisper sweet nothings into your ear before banging away. (1) Quaint notions, I know. I challenge you to stand in front of a few family members or friends and read what you typed word for word. Tell us the truth, how many seconds does it take before they all give you the “deer in the headlight look” ?
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SHORT ANSWER:
Crenshaw is a swamp creature and a snake who knows who butters his bread. He will never choose real Americans over his paymasters if the interests diverge.
LONG ANSWER
I was not a McCain fan for more than 5 minutes or so after I became politically aware and read up on McCain's history. Nauseating. If you know his record going way back, you know what I mean.
Here's the thing: McCain (and most any other "moderate" of liberal boomer in politics) flogged their service into such a lather that Audie Effing Murphy was a sniveling coward by comparison. "Don't you know what McCain ENDURED!!!111eleventy" "John Kerry is so principled that he captained swift boats in Vietnam but out of highest principle tossed someone else's medals over the WH fence and accused his buddies of behaving like medieval barbarians. What a HE-RO!" This was used as a screen to hide their decades' worth anti-American policies.
Crenshaw may have more actual martial substance, but he is using his service in the same way: as a screen and to get those ignorant of his voting & rhetorical record to respond to substantive criticism of him with , "But he's a SEAL!!!!! and you're a dummy-head for not recognizing his greatness! Look how he crushes LIEberals with FACTS and LOGIC!"
To be blunt, Crenshaw is a cuckservative, happy to see real Americans screwed culturally and economically and demographically. He can't even stay straight on easy RKBA issues, such as red flag laws, "assault weapons", "universal background checks" (IOW, no private sales without gov't permission). In addition, he is great with screwing regular Americans out of jobs by supporting hundreds of thousands of more green cards for Indians via H1B visas.
So screw Crenshaw with a buzz saw. And his pig ignorant supporters.
Because you say so? And just who the hell are you? You were a Navy Seal when?? I was going to ask, "Are you that danged ignorant?" but I guess we all know the answer. Fool, of course not just because I say so. I pay attention to what the man says and how he votes. Try paying attention some time. You might have to turn off the idiot-making box but it is worth it in the end. I guess you are OK with Americans getting rodgered by Indian street-sh***er H1B visa holders and their anti-American corporate scum employers? Because, really, if regular Americans aren't willing to give up the capability to support a family on one income so Bob Iger and Mark Zuckerberg can increase their horde of billions by a couple of percent, the terrorists will have won. Or you must be a socialist. Or something. I guess you are OK with red flag laws where a man's firearms can be taken away without trial or even being charged with a crime? I guess you are OK with outlawing private gun sales? Because your boy Dan Crenshaw is for all of that. Open your ears, stop spreading your rears, and start paying attention to those that are buggering you. Would it be too much to ask where you got all of this negative information on Crenshaw? Specifically, where? Thanks The proper response to the Citation Needed Sperging is, "Do your own homework you lazy bum." But, hey, it is "Be kind to the lazy week" so I'll provide some examples. Red Flag Laws This is as easy as inserting a few strings into a web browser: "dan crenshaw" "red flag law" https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22dan+crenshaw%22+%22red+flag+law%22&t=brave&ia=web In the top five https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...shes-red-flag-laws-in-wake-of-shootings/https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/11/rep-dan-crenshaw-explains-his-support-red-flag-laws/(This latter cited in SUPPORT of Crenshaw by a forum member because Crenshaw squawked "due process" and satisfied the ignorati.) Rep. Dan Crenshaw
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The solutions aren’t obvious, even if we pretend they are. But we must try. Let’s start with the TAPS Act. Maybe also implement state “red flag” laws, or gun violence restraining orders. Stop them before they can hurt someone.https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/838/text … Crenshaw only blew squid ink (DUE PROCESS) after many folks called him on his perfidy. It worked, as many believed that kinder, gentler tyranny with "due process" imprinted on the side of the jack boot is a meaningful difference. Immigration/H1B Again, a couple of strings in a search engine: "dan crenshaw" "immigration" https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22dan+crenshaw%22+%22immigration%22&t=brave&ia=web Look what pops in the top five: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...ts-on-green-card-giveaway-amid-backlash/Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-TX) is echoing talking points from the big business lobby after voting for a green card giveaway plan to 300,000 Indian workers who were imported by Big Tech’s outsourcing business model.
The giveaway plan will allow Indian nationals to effectively monopolize the U.S. green card system for at least the next ten years, providing a constant, quicker stream of mostly Indian male nationals that American professionals will be forced to compete against for white-collar U.S. jobs in the labor market. I am not a big fan of Breitbart due to their cucky nature, but I smell a lot of breitbartians here'bouts, so maybe if your own sorts tell you that water is wet, the sun rises in the east, and Dan Crenshaw is a s**tbird who happened to wear the uniform, you might believe it. ========= Okay, enough. You now know how to fish for information. Go forth and learn for yourself. I am tired of being called a liar and troll by ignorant goobers who can't manage to run a search engine.
Regards,
deadlift_dude
“The very first essential for success is a perpetually constant and regular employment of violence.”
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SHORT ANSWER:
Crenshaw is a swamp creature and a snake who knows who butters his bread. He will never choose real Americans over his paymasters if the interests diverge.
LONG ANSWER
I was not a McCain fan for more than 5 minutes or so after I became politically aware and read up on McCain's history. Nauseating. If you know his record going way back, you know what I mean.
Here's the thing: McCain (and most any other "moderate" of liberal boomer in politics) flogged their service into such a lather that Audie Effing Murphy was a sniveling coward by comparison. "Don't you know what McCain ENDURED!!!111eleventy" "John Kerry is so principled that he captained swift boats in Vietnam but out of highest principle tossed someone else's medals over the WH fence and accused his buddies of behaving like medieval barbarians. What a HE-RO!" This was used as a screen to hide their decades' worth anti-American policies.
Crenshaw may have more actual martial substance, but he is using his service in the same way: as a screen and to get those ignorant of his voting & rhetorical record to respond to substantive criticism of him with , "But he's a SEAL!!!!! and you're a dummy-head for not recognizing his greatness! Look how he crushes LIEberals with FACTS and LOGIC!"
To be blunt, Crenshaw is a cuckservative, happy to see real Americans screwed culturally and economically and demographically. He can't even stay straight on easy RKBA issues, such as red flag laws, "assault weapons", "universal background checks" (IOW, no private sales without gov't permission). In addition, he is great with screwing regular Americans out of jobs by supporting hundreds of thousands of more green cards for Indians via H1B visas.
So screw Crenshaw with a buzz saw. And his pig ignorant supporters.
Because you say so? And just who the hell are you? You were a Navy Seal when?? I was going to ask, "Are you that danged ignorant?" but I guess we all know the answer. Fool, of course not just because I say so. I pay attention to what the man says and how he votes. Try paying attention some time. You might have to turn off the idiot-making box but it is worth it in the end. I guess you are OK with Americans getting rodgered by Indian street-sh***er H1B visa holders and their anti-American corporate scum employers? Because, really, if regular Americans aren't willing to give up the capability to support a family on one income so Bob Iger and Mark Zuckerberg can increase their horde of billions by a couple of percent, the terrorists will have won. Or you must be a socialist. Or something. I guess you are OK with red flag laws where a man's firearms can be taken away without trial or even being charged with a crime? I guess you are OK with outlawing private gun sales? Because your boy Dan Crenshaw is for all of that. Open your ears, stop spreading your rears, and start paying attention to those that are buggering you. Would it be too much to ask where you got all of this negative information on Crenshaw? Specifically, where? Thanks The proper response to the Citation Needed Sperging is, "Do your own homework you lazy bum." But, hey, it is "Be kind to the lazy week" so I'll provide some examples. Red Flag Laws This is as easy as inserting a few strings into a web browser: "dan crenshaw" "red flag law" https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22dan+crenshaw%22+%22red+flag+law%22&t=brave&ia=web In the top five https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...shes-red-flag-laws-in-wake-of-shootings/https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/11/rep-dan-crenshaw-explains-his-support-red-flag-laws/(This latter cited in SUPPORT of Crenshaw by a forum member because Crenshaw squawked "due process" and satisfied the ignorati.) Rep. Dan Crenshaw
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The solutions aren’t obvious, even if we pretend they are. But we must try. Let’s start with the TAPS Act. Maybe also implement state “red flag” laws, or gun violence restraining orders. Stop them before they can hurt someone.https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/838/text … Crenshaw only blew squid ink (DUE PROCESS) after many folks called him on his perfidy. It worked, as many believed that kinder, gentler tyranny with "due process" imprinted on the side of the jack boot is a meaningful difference. Immigration/H1B Again, a couple of strings in a search engine: "dan crenshaw" "immigration" https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22dan+crenshaw%22+%22immigration%22&t=brave&ia=web Look what pops in the top five: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...ts-on-green-card-giveaway-amid-backlash/Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-TX) is echoing talking points from the big business lobby after voting for a green card giveaway plan to 300,000 Indian workers who were imported by Big Tech’s outsourcing business model.
The giveaway plan will allow Indian nationals to effectively monopolize the U.S. green card system for at least the next ten years, providing a constant, quicker stream of mostly Indian male nationals that American professionals will be forced to compete against for white-collar U.S. jobs in the labor market. I am not a big fan of Breitbart due to their cucky nature, but I smell a lot of breitbartians here'bouts, so maybe if your own sorts tell you that water is wet, the sun rises in the east, and Dan Crenshaw is a s**tbird who happened to wear the uniform, you might believe it. ========= Okay, enough. You now know how to fish for information. Go forth and learn for yourself. I am tired of being called a liar and troll by ignorant goobers who can't manage to run a search engine. Thanks and good info. Conclusion: 442 postings. You are Elkslayer redux, with a different handle.
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