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This question has somewhat troubled me in the past. What helped me think this through was when Jesus asked God to remove this cup. Remove what he was about to endure on the cross. Here is a sermon that I found that hits the very question. I am going to read it another time or two. https://whatismore.wordpress.com/2010/05/16/should-we-pray-for-specific-outcomes-or-for-gods-will/
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I never ask anything for myself.
God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
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I never ask anything for myself. I am curious, why not? God has answered my prayers many times.
Faith and love of others knows no mileage nor bounds. That's simply the way it is. dogzapper
After the game is over, the king and the pawn go into the same box. Italian Proverb
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When ask by disciples, "Lord, teach us to pray, just as John taught his disciples." Remember the answer?
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"I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson
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Oh please let my loved one die a miserable death, it's your plan, oh yeah, amen. Why?
"I can't be canceled, because, I don't give a fuuck!" --- Kid Rock 2022
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"Thy Will be done".
God Jesus is infinite in His wisdom. Often hard for us to understand.
These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o "May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"
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I never ask anything for myself. I am curious, why not? God has answered my prayers many times. because I feel I don't need to, I pray for my family and friends if I need help he knows.
God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
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I think it’s just fine to pray for a specific outcome.
Every day on this side of the ground is a win.
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Guess I do both.
Kind of plead my case, then be happy with what the Boss decides.
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Doesn't matter. Accomplishes the same thing either way.
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Pray, either way, pray. Even to ask how to pray.
These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o "May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"
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An all knowing God would already know what anyone wants or needs.
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An all knowing God would already know what anyone wants or needs. I believe He does. If you have a wife, she already knows you love her. She still likes to hear it from ya’ though.
Every day on this side of the ground is a win.
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When ask by disciples, "Lord, teach us to pray, just as John taught his disciples." Remember the answer?
g Well yes, that would imply that you should not pray for someone who is sick to get well, but only pray for God's will to be done. But if you pray for the sick to get well, aren't you inferring that you want them to get well if that is God's will anyway? See no harm either way.
Don't blame me. I voted for Trump.
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An all knowing God would already know what anyone wants or needs. I believe He does. If you have a wife, she already knows you love her. She still likes to hear it from ya’ though. Yep, and that's called having a relationship. Having a relationship with Jesus is what it's ALL about.
Faith and love of others knows no mileage nor bounds. That's simply the way it is. dogzapper
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An all knowing God would already know what anyone wants or needs. I believe He does. If you have a wife, she already knows you love her. She still likes to hear it from ya’ though. Yep, and that's called having a relationship. Having a relationship with Jesus is what it's ALL about. word
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I wasted a lot of time with religion until I found out what it meant to have a relationship with Jesus Christ. It has nothing to do with religion. The Pharisees had religion.
Faith and love of others knows no mileage nor bounds. That's simply the way it is. dogzapper
After the game is over, the king and the pawn go into the same box. Italian Proverb
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I wasted a lot of time with religion until I found out what it meant to have a relationship with Jesus Christ. It has nothing to do with religion. The Pharisees had religion. word, again
Every day on this side of the ground is a win.
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Praying for a specific outcome may influence the Eternal God or may not. Maybe He programmed it from the beginning. In 1995 I wrote a book titled "And These Signs Will Follow". Some here will know where I got the title. It contains at least twenty to twenty-five miracles resulting from praying. There is another book I recently listened to called "The Case For Miracles". It documents lots of "yes" answers to prayers.
"Only Christ is the fullness of God's revelation." Everyday Hunter
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Phillipians 4 6 Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. 7 And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.
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