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What are Trump's legal options with regard to using the military?
Thanks, Rob
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Google "Insurrection Act"......I've been reading up on it.
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desperate times call for desperate measures
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Well, we got a declared war, State of Nat Emergency, and 50th state declared a state of emergency on D-J-T day, 4-10-20 (Good Friday).
He had predicted that on Mar 13 when he said "in 1 month it will be over", the same day Christ said "It is finished" 2000 years ago. 4-10-20 was the same day the 50th state, Wyoming, declared a state of emergency.
Yep. He can legally use the military against civilians and civilians can be tried in military tribunals.
The PC Act
..,,the Posse Comitatus Act, which restricts the participation of the military in domestic law enforcement activities under many circumstances. LANGUAGE. The origins of “posse ....
Key words,
restricts the participation of the military in domestic law enforcement activities under many circumstances
BUT NOT IN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES.
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desperate times call for desperate measures
Hmm, the law interpenetrating it one way. Or, a group of very serious individuals that interpenetrate it another. Serious either way.
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It becomes muddied when states are not asking for help.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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But it's not required for them to ask for help. If I remember correctly it was also utilized after 9/11. Lots of troops at airports after that.
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[bleep] is fixing to get real serious.
Anyone with a brain can see, the dominoes are beginning to fall much faster. The plans parts are falling in place.
Now let's see what Zero cronies get called to spill their guts or commit perjury in front of the Senate this week.
But, of course, nothing is being done.
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Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
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What makes it so insane is that 100's of thousands of citizens are having the fugck infringed out of THEIR rights. By people using civil rights protests as an excuse for criminal behavior.
All these innocent people have rights too.
Law and order must be restored. No matter the cost. Because if not, the cost would be way too high.
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But it's not required for them to ask for help. If I remember correctly it was also utilized after 9/11. Lots of troops at airports after that. Correct that the States don't necessarily have to ask for help but no, the Insurrection Act was not used after 9/11. The troops stationed at airports would have been state National Guard troops still under Governor's orders. They were not federalized.
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Still a state issue. Would be better if states won't, the FBI would charge any out of state instigators. Right to free speech and assembly, not violence and theft.
National guard OK. Military sets a bad precedent andcould be a trap.
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But it's not required for them to ask for help. If I remember correctly it was also utilized after 9/11. Lots of troops at airports after that. Correct that the States don't necessarily have to ask for help but no, the Insurrection Act was not used after 9/11. The troops stationed at airports would have been state National Guard troops still under Governor's orders. They were not federalized. International airports fall under federal jurisdiction. They may have used NG, but military regulars would have been just as legal.
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September 25, 1957- - - - -Orval Faubus, Dwight Eisenhower, and the Arkansas National Guard- - - - - -guess who won? Jerry
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I seem to remember that but its a bit foggy cause I was not able to read yet and the TV was still an oddity.
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We are in a situation where the US is in a position it's never been in before. No president in US history has had as much constitutional power as Trump now has the legal ability to wield.
At no time in the history of this country has every state declared itself to be in a state of emergency.
To secure his power Trump again, a month ago, declared the US to be in a state of national emergency.
He rules the US, though he hasnt yet demonstrated it.
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Thing that seems muddy to me is that many of these douche bags are crossing state lines and committing crimes. Doesn't that also make it a Federal matter? Serious question. I don't know the answer.
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Thing that seems muddy to me is that many of these douche bags are crossing state lines and committing crimes. Doesn't that also make it a Federal matter? Serious question. I don't know the answer. Crossing one or more state lines to commit a crime does indeed make it a federal offense. The degree varies with the severity of the crime.
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I'm really worried about this guy's. On one hand, the weak response at the state level s has resulted in a country that's out of control. And the vast majority of victims are law abiding citizens. Something has to be done. At the same time, I don't want the country to turn into a fugking police state either.
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Maybe the threat of Federal level adult supervision coming in and taking control of law and order will be a serious wake up call for the states to get their schit in order.
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