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Originally Posted by steve4102
I can think of no scenario where I would find the need to call an LEO and ask for assistance.


To a large extent, LEO is for investigating crimes that have happened, not preventing them. So I get your underlying point, but it's not realistic.

If someone broke into your house and you shot them dead, you would call LEO, and they would be involved.

If someone stole your vehicle, you would report it to LEO, and they would be involved.

If someone assaulted your wife, you'd call LEO, and they'd be involved. Vandalized property, same.

Hell, I am in the Public Safety/911 business!! But like you, if there is a "bump" in the night the last thing I am doing is calling 911 - I'm grabbing my 870 and my wife is grabbing her .38.

But to suggest there is NO scenario where you'd engage LEO?

Com'on...................


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Originally Posted by duck911
Originally Posted by steve4102
I can think of no scenario where I would find the need to call an LEO and ask for assistance.


To a large extent, LEO is for investigating crimes that have happened, not preventing them. So I get your underlying point, but it's not realistic.

If someone broke into your house and you shot them dead, you would call LEO, and they would be involved.

If someone stole your vehicle, you would report it to LEO, and they would be involved.

If someone assaulted your wife, you'd call LEO, and they'd be involved. Vandalized property, same.

Hell, I am in the Public Safety/911 business!! But like you, if there is a "bump" in the night the last thing I am doing is calling 911 - I'm grabbing my 870 and my wife is grabbing her .38.

But to suggest there is NO scenario where you'd engage LEO?

Com'on...................


I said there is no scenario where I would call for assistance. What you are suggesting is reporting not asking for help


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Cutting $150 million from police depts to pay antifa and BLM members to riot, pillage and promote anarchy is what the good mayor means.

Who is talking about protecting the folks? Not the D mayors or governors. Trump.

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Based on a set of preconceived false suppositions? The article makes little sense.


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Anyone guess. I am guessing there wouldn't be any law. Maybe a feeble attempt at first but it wouldn't last long. Jungle rules.

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Who protects “bad” cops, more? The police drpt, itself, or the police unions??? Which political party do the unions donate most of their money to???

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Things would revert a situation somewhat like the year 1850 in California except many times worse because of population density. There will be rampant murder and pillage. Which will be solved by the public demanding a dictator. The country would fall into the waiting hands of the global bankers and the new world order. 1984 will come true except much worse.


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People vote for their mayors and city councils. If they're stupid enough to want this, let them live with it for a year or two. It will be total anarchy. The city will soon be run by the mob and money needed for city services will soon be funneled into private pockets. It will be pure hell.


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Originally Posted by steve4102
I can think of no scenario where I would find the need to call an LEO and ask for assistance.





You're reading my mind.

I'd call my Cuban bud neighbor first.


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Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by steve4102
I can think of no scenario where I would find the need to call an LEO and ask for assistance.





You're reading my mind.

I'd call my Cuban bud neighbor first.




You will pay for protection, or we'll break your Cuban buddy's legs and yours grin We'll just make you an offer you can't refuse.


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Originally Posted by watch4bear
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Originally Posted by steve4102
I can think of no scenario where I would find the need to call an LEO and ask for assistance.





You're reading my mind.

I'd call my Cuban bud neighbor first.




You will pay for protection, or we'll break your Cuban buddy's legs and yours grin We'll just make you an offer you can't refuse.



I suspect his .300 Win Mag will not be an astute listener (amongst others). Lol.


HIs wife's truck gun is a mac-10. smile

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HIs wife's truck gun is a mac-10.



Better yet' we'll just take his wife until he pays. see how this works?


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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
Without law enforcement, no more need for laws. Laws would only be suggestions.

In other words.....no rules, just right.


But the only rights you have are those you can protect.

And with no police, we will have to enforce them ourselves, via the 2nd.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Originally Posted by duck911
I've seen jurisdictions eliminate their LEO, completely.

But the law enforcement duty was always outsourced to the County Sheriff or adjacent jurisdiction.

The City of Hilton Head, SC for example has no City PD. They have outsourced their law enforcement to Beaufort County SO for 2 decades now. It is one of many examples - it's actually VERY common.

But I cannot imagine a major (liberal) city with zero LEO presence.

I can't wrap my head around how that would even pan out.


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If there are no law enforcement officers, then we all become Sheriffs. Does anyone think there will be no bad Sheriffs?


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I’m fine with it. They should test it in phases to judge the effectiveness as is only sensible. Baltimore, Chicago, and San Fran seem a decent starting place.


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There would be a lot of bad sheriffs. And few of them would end up dead.

But in reality, it would soon come to resemble 1930 to 1950 Chicago, on steroids and nationwide. A huge number of mob bosses and their gangs all competing for territory. All running their own rackets from protection to whores to dope. And each of them killing anyone who does not knuckle under, or would dare to compete.


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Without police security, say goodbye to fire and ambulance services in high crime areas too.

When there are traffic accidents on the freeway, nobody will respond, just see to your self the best you can.

That should work, give or take.

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Less cops simply means less opposition, which means more riots, which means more mob rule. They obviously know that and that's why they want it.


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