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Yeah, having lived through a very big AZ fire, I can tell you it may rejuvenate the fauna, and the flora, but the thing is the landscape is no longer "natural". Land use practices, encroachment of residences, and decades of fire suppression and lack of "thinning" had an absolutely horrible outcome in that fire, and that was 20 years ago.

I've seen, lived near, and lived in areas where there have been big fires since the 70's. I'm talking fires over 150K acres. And all the talk from the agencies (state and federal) , the biologists, the foresters, the academics, the "environmentalist groups" , and municipalities in high fire danger zones hasn't accomplished much. No one wants to pony up the bucks to address the issue, and they all seem to blame each other for the problem.

Saw the same thing regarding salmon issues in the PNW.

And you're right,one doesn't see these kind of fires back east very often. Not sure where you're at, but I lived near the Allegheny National Forest. About 500K acres. It's a big chunk of woods, and it would be hard to imagine 1/2 of that going up in flames in one event. Then again, that area rarely goes more than a couple of weeks without rain, unlike places out west that can go months without a drop.

One day, perhaps ,folks will actually stop fighting over it and address the issue. I have a sneaky suspicion I'll be long gone when that happens.

About 15miles to Atlantic east lol..

Jeez Sycamore,

I just zoomed out on that map, y'all have quite a few going already and it's just halfway thru June. I hope you folks get some good moisture from the monsoons and not just dry lightning and winds.

Not many "forest fires" in the ocean, eh?

I do wish I was only 15 miles from an ocean. I miss it.

Land management agencies , Forest Service and BLM, are the nations largest fire dept, due to the fact they do very little management. Log it, graze it or watch it burn.

Ash falling like light snow all the way up here... leaving in a bit for home, via the Young road, 70 miles of dirt and twists, saves me about 60 miles going through showlow.

Haven't been all the way through the Young rd in awhile, hunt the top 30 miles a lot.

Kent

Hope your trip on the dirt goes well.

Something I kick myself in the butt for is not having taken that trip you're on today........for fun of course.

At least you have the alternative of a shortcut.

Great chance Mt. Lemmon is burning. It's in the pines there....

#1 son and his hotshot crew just got sent to S Sw Colorado.

Think it is already his third fire in a still early season - looks like a busy summer.

they must be pounding it with air attack to keep it out of Summerhaven. when did the top burn last 2003?

Ash was falling and smoke for the last couple days at Christopher creek, took a quick shot of the smoke from the rim before I headed down the Young rd home... again a 90 minute drive turned into a 4 hour trip.



90 miles usually turned into 220 via Showlow or 160 via Young, Young road is mostly dirt and windy for 70+ miles... I decided Young rd... it"ll kick your ass but the views are spectacular. Traffic was light and I made good time, 30 minutes less than map quest estimate via Showlow... I hate the drive through Salt river canyon anyway. When you start down on the last stretch you are in pines then saguaros in about 10 miles, a true representation of the Arizona's riparian zones, it truly is an amazing state.






Here's the fire cresting Four peaks and Ord heading into the Tonto basin, the winds are terrible and I'm afraid this is going to jump the Tonto and head for the Greenbacks, you can see Roosevelt lake, live embers have to be carried 10 to 20 miles as it crests, couple years ago I was fishing San Carlos lake and live embers were landing on me from a fire 40 miles away.

Somewhere in there....

Its really bad. I don't understand how this fire has done what it has done. They protected the buffel grass saguaro flats at 2500' in the foothills, a backfire at that, but didn't help the NE side of the flank, with 20+ MPH winds from the SW. All air attack..fire fighters would die on foot. Just a really really bad deal.

Hope I'm wrong but I think Lemmon is burning to the ground....

Unit 23 likely gonna burn too Kent ehh?

Saving grace was eating at El Reys in Miami, the best mex food in the world... course wife wanted her takeout and was waiting when I got home.



Kent

PS - Ali has killed 3 cows in the past 6 years less than 1/2 mile off that Young road Kent, on the high elevation side...grin...

I agree....

That's the scuttlebutt from the firefighters on the ground, winds are terrible. I'm hoping the Tonto creek is wide enough to stop it but a buddy that has a property on the other side said 1 inch live embers are falling already as the fire crests the peaks, If any of those start it;s a F'ing mess.

Kent

Yeah - it's burning. Hope for an early storm on that area. If not 2-5 more weeks of fire....

Damn right it's a good area.

Kent

Greg, one of these days we need to get together on a hunt, hell I can be camp cook or whatnot just to hang out.

Kent