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I want to see the cities survive without the food, water, and electric power that the rural areas provide for them. Stop rerouting rivers and divert the electric production of places like Hoover Dam, and let's see how long it takes for the landscape around places like Las Vegas and Los Angeles to revert to the desert it once was!
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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
The Left doesn't want to go to Utopia and leave the rest of us alone.

They want to change the whole country.

They want to eliminate conservatism and conservatives.

They want to control every facet of your life. And you are not allowed to disagree or resist. You are only allowed to conform.

They want what you have, and if that means over your dead body, that is fine with the Left. In fact they prefer it.



Liberalism. Socialism. Globalism. Communism. All cats of the same litter.

It's beyond treason. It is a hostile take over of your country and your freedoms and liberty.

Nailed it! +10


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Originally Posted by RJY66
IMO, it would have been treason as well as a true civil war had the goal been to take over the U.S. government. That was not the case. The populations of the "free and independent" states of the time voted to secede and form their own country.

It was a failed revolution but the confederates were no more traitors than the so called founding fathers. Only difference is that they lost their war. If Lee was a traitor so was George Washington and the gang.

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My question is; do you believe the rebellion of states in 1861 was secession, similar to and comparable to our secession from Britain in 1776 or an act of treason against our country? Succession or Treason?


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The honest answer is it depends upon who wins and writes the histories.


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Originally Posted by TreeMutt
With the cancel culture in full force, how much of this can we stand without some kind of retaliation?

Removing Robert E Lee memorials, changing military base names, etc.

My question is; do you believe the rebellion of states in 1861 was secession, similar to and comparable to our secession from Britain in 1776 or an act of treason against our country? Succession or Treason?


Our secession from Britain was in every sense "Treason" against the Crown.

Don't believe that, look up how many Colonials were hung for the act. Had the Continental Army not won the war. Thousands more would have hung.


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
The Left doesn't want to go to Utopia and leave the rest of us alone.

They want to change the whole country.

They want to eliminate conservatism and conservatives.

They want to control every facet of your life. And you are not allowed to disagree or resist. You are only allowed to conform.

They want what you have, and if that means over your dead body, that is fine with the Left. In fact they prefer it.



Liberalism. Socialism. Globalism. Communism. All cats of the same litter.

It's beyond treason. It is a hostile take over of your country and your freedoms and liberty.


You’re were firing on all cylinders when you wrote that. I salute you...


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Originally Posted by nyrifleman
Robert E. Lee and treason in the same post.

Irony?


No irony at all.

He resigned his commission and fought to defend his country.


He was born in 1807 31 years after the United States was formed. His commission was a US Army commission. He left his country and aligned with those that wanted to destroy it. A fascinating complex guy of high moral character and a great general but don't think what he did wasn't going to fight against America.


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It is time to break the country into manageable pieces. And we need a mass translocation of population similar to what India and Pakistan did when they partitioned. I'll be glad to sell out and move to Wyoming, Idaho, or Montana. Let them enjoy New Rwanda in the southeast. After we build a wall and first evacuate our military weaponry.
Ya kinda left out the part about the months long war that ensued and the millions killed, as a result of the "partition".
You are right about the carnage that ensued in the Indian subcontinent. But I don't believe the urban ghetto-ites have the stomach to come out of the city and slaughter us. The cities need to be cordoned off and the population allowed to do whatever savages do to each other. What is going on now is going to end very badly and very bloody. Just wait.


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Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by SBTCO
Originally Posted by Hastings
It is time to break the country into manageable pieces. And we need a mass translocation of population similar to what India and Pakistan did when they partitioned. I'll be glad to sell out and move to Wyoming, Idaho, or Montana. Let them enjoy New Rwanda in the southeast. After we build a wall and first evacuate our military weaponry.
Ya kinda left out the part about the months long war that ensued and the millions killed, as a result of the "partition".
You are right about the carnage that ensued in the Indian subcontinent. But I don't believe the urban ghetto-ites have the stomach to come out of the city and slaughter us. The cities need to be cordoned off and the population allowed to do whatever savages do to each other. What is going on now is going to end very badly and very bloody. Just wait.



I’m with you 100%. I’m already thinking very hard about relocating. Wyoming, Idaho or Montana. I’ll take any one of them. Don’t even give a damn which...

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Originally Posted by Heym06
Treason!


Make your point airhead, use logic instead of ignorance.


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So if you can’t get along with your wife and decide to part ways, is it divorce or betrayal?

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Originally Posted by Heym06
Keep the sea ports or you loose, no land locked country is a major power! Those three states listed could be isolated and starved easily!


You are more guilty of treason than Jefferson Davis was. In fact Oregon suits you well.


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Originally Posted by Pugs
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Originally Posted by nyrifleman
Robert E. Lee and treason in the same post.

Irony?


No irony at all.

He resigned his commission and fought to defend his country.


He was born in 1807 31 years after the United States was formed. His commission was a US Army commission. He left his country and aligned with those that wanted to destroy it. A fascinating complex guy of high moral character and a great general but don't think what he did wasn't going to fight against America.



Damn another blithering dumbass leftard! The south did not want to destroy "the country" you dope.


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Is everyone enjoying their Free 30-Day Trial of Communism??


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Originally Posted by gonehuntin
Is everyone enjoying their Free 30-Day Trial of Communism??
I think anarchy is more descriptive of what we're getting. Communists would never put up with this.


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Whatever it is, the south needs to do it every 10 years or so.

Win or lose, it causes the culud folks to move north.

The last big clash gave the north Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, and D.C.

,...and the North thinks they won.

lolol,....

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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
The Left doesn't want to go to Utopia and leave the rest of us alone.

They want to change the whole country.

They want to eliminate conservatism and conservatives.

They want to control every facet of your life. And you are not allowed to disagree or resist. You are only allowed to conform.

They want what you have, and if that means over your dead body, that is fine with the Left. In fact they prefer it.



Liberalism. Socialism. Globalism. Communism. All cats of the same litter.

It's beyond treason. It is a hostile take over of your country and your freedoms and liberty.





Come and get it, chkunts.


I see them ruining people's lives in the middle of an economic crisis. They don't care.

Neither will I.


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Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by Pugs
Originally Posted by justsaymoe
Originally Posted by nyrifleman
Robert E. Lee and treason in the same post.

Irony?


No irony at all.

He resigned his commission and fought to defend his country.


He was born in 1807 31 years after the United States was formed. His commission was a US Army commission. He left his country and aligned with those that wanted to destroy it. A fascinating complex guy of high moral character and a great general but don't think what he did wasn't going to fight against America.



Damn another blithering dumbass leftard! The south did not want to destroy "the country" you dope.


You haven't been paying attention, have you?


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Originally Posted by Pugs
Originally Posted by justsaymoe
Originally Posted by nyrifleman
Robert E. Lee and treason in the same post.

Irony?


No irony at all.

He resigned his commission and fought to defend his country.


He was born in 1807 31 years after the United States was formed. His commission was a US Army commission. He left his country and aligned with those that wanted to destroy it. A fascinating complex guy of high moral character and a great general but don't think what he did wasn't going to fight against America.



Whose America? Your America? He defended my America against the traitors to the Republic who chose to overthrow the constitutional republic and institute this monstrosity we have today in its place.

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