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My fingers are so sore!! MIddle finger has some kind of "bulge" blister thing down deep. It's hard and hurts like heck.
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Funny a few days ago my buddy and I were talking on the phone. And the topic of releases came up. He is a tournament archer and does a little hunting. Anyways somehow we got on the topic of releases and what happened to finger shooting. I said to him the release became so popular because it disguised all ones flaws in the release. It made a bad shooter and ok shooter, a good shooter a excellent shooter, and an excellent shooter it brought to the top of the game. He said why do I think it disguised flaws? I said the same way a release trigger does or training wheels on a bike does. You are not correcting the problem you are side stepping it. It becomes an aid for your deficiencies.
Now I am not saying there is anything wrong with shooting a release, release triggers, or using training wheels. I am also not saying that it just magically makes you a better shooter. Please reread that line!!!!!! One still needs you perfect the execution of the release. You still need to be able to hold the bow steady and find the X in your sights at the exact moment.You still need to keep expanding on the draw and not collapse. But it is a mechanical advantage that makes your release even a bad one better! Hence why in the early 90's was the end of the finger shooter. A few of us have held out. Most that have held out have gone to the way of the stick bow. Today there is not a true finger bow made by any other Bow companies. It is essentially dead, which is a sad thing. But our society has gone the route of easy instant gratification. Fingers is a life long struggle
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I have considered it. But I have compound with release, sight, etc. that is amazingly accurate out to 50 yards. So, I have the "gadget" end of archery covered. I really want to shoot fingers on my recurve. Guess I just need to give them a rest! 40ish arrows a day for the last 6-weeks is taking it's toll!
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Funny a few days ago my buddy and I were talking on the phone. And the topic of releases came up. He is a tournament archer and does a little hunting. Anyways somehow we got on the topic of releases and what happened to finger shooting. I said to him the release became so popular because it disguised all ones flaws in the release. It made a bad shooter and ok shooter, a good shooter a excellent shooter, and an excellent shooter it brought to the top of the game. He said why do I think it disguised flaws? I said the same way a release trigger does or training wheels on a bike does. You are not correcting the problem you are side stepping it. It becomes an aid for your deficiencies.
Now I am not saying there is anything wrong with shooting a release, release triggers, or using training wheels. I am also not saying that it just magically makes you a better shooter. Please reread that line!!!!!! One still needs you perfect the execution of the release. You still need to be able to hold the bow steady and find the X in your sights at the exact moment.You still need to keep expanding on the draw and not collapse. But it is a mechanical advantage that makes your release even a bad one better! Hence why in the early 90's was the end of the finger shooter. A few of us have held out. Most that have held out have gone to the way of the stick bow. Today there is not a true finger bow made by any other Bow companies. It is essentially dead, which is a sad thing. But our society has gone the route of easy instant gratification. Fingers is a life long struggle Not sure I follow. Or not aware of what constitutes a "true finger bow".
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Axle to Axle in the 46" area. Also longer Brace height and softer cam
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Geez, when you said Mathews, I just assumed you were shooting a compound, and with ATA lengths these days around the 30-35", that's tough on fingers. I see you were referring to a recurve. I also shoot a recurve with fingers; one up, two down.
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Bad OP on my part.
I've been shooing my new Bob Lee recurve daily since I bought it. Fingers using a glove. The fingers are sore!
Will be shooting the old Mathews Q2 compound for a few days while the fingers rest up.
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Axle to Axle in the 46" area. Also longer Brace height and softer cam Yep. All the compounds today have heavy radical cams.
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Actually the cams have really smoothed out but yes for fingers its too much.
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There is a company that makes recurve bows specifically for shooting off of horseback. The bow is shot with a thumb, index finger release. I have forgotten the name of the company or where I read about it.
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I came up learning to shoot recurves with a glove. After watching masters of the barebow I gave tabs a try. Three fingers under with a deep hook to the closest knuckle. More consistent anchor and easier on my fingers.
Try the deep hook with the glove, like holding a paint can. Tips get out of the way before the string touches them.
I suppose if you want to shoot the compound with fingers you could pull with three fingers, and drop one to reduce pinch when at full draw.
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There is a company that makes recurve bows specifically for shooting off of horseback. The bow is shot with a thumb, index finger release. I have forgotten the name of the company or where I read about it. Would take some work. Let's say A LOT of work. But I suppose I could hunt of off my bicycle!
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I came up learning to shoot recurves with a glove. After watching masters of the barebow I gave tabs a try. Three fingers under with a deep hook to the closest knuckle. More consistent anchor and easier on my fingers.
Try the deep hook with the glove, like holding a paint can. Tips get out of the way before the string touches them.
I suppose if you want to shoot the compound with fingers you could pull with three fingers, and drop one to reduce pinch when at full draw. I've been using a glove, split fingers, and holding the string with the meat of my fingers. Might give that a try. Never could get to used to a tab. Have one and keep tying to warm up to it. I'm ceratinly intriqued with 3-under. Seems like it would be more natural to "aim" down the arrow more. But, I've been split finger for a long time. I'm an old dog and new tricks come hard!
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OK, back to the recurve yesterday for a just a few ends. Laid off just a couple of days and much better!
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I've always shot decent fingers. Always run a tab. Funny, got my first deer w a PSE twin cam back in the 80's, sold it to a bud, that used it to shoot a 300 indoors w it fingers. For hunting I like a front sight and no peep. Did well that way. Targets though, a peep shrinks groups. Got an old Oneida Aeroforce to mess with. Dunno if going barebow or w front sight yet. Found 50% let off modules ($40). FWIW I like a mechanical release just fine. Hell I think they screw more people up, seen a bunch poke at the trigger and a ton with draw lengths that are not right. Recurve, compound fingers, or release.............sights or no sights.................its all fun Eastern type hunting, wooded, 30 yards can be a long shot. Damn near anything works within that distance.
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There is a company that makes recurve bows specifically for shooting off of horseback. The bow is shot with a thumb, index finger release. I have forgotten the name of the company or where I read about it. Was it Kassai? Seemed to be the more popular in the archery mags a while back https://www.horsebows.com/bows.php
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Bad OP on my part.
I've been shooing my new Bob Lee recurve daily since I bought it. Fingers using a glove. The fingers are sore!
Will be shooting the old Mathews Q2 compound for a few days while the fingers rest up. Wow! Mathews Q2? That is an oldie but a goodie, I had a Q2xl back in the day (probly 20 years ago) I really liked that bow too 👍.......Hb
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Bad OP on my part.
I've been shooing my new Bob Lee recurve daily since I bought it. Fingers using a glove. The fingers are sore!
Will be shooting the old Mathews Q2 compound for a few days while the fingers rest up. Wow! Mathews Q2? That is an oldie but a goodie, I had a Q2xl back in the day (probly 20 years ago) I really liked that bow too 👍.......Hb Yep. I fairly dated myself by admitting to the Q2. Heck, I still had the original sting on it until 2-months ago!
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I had a Switchback XT. Was a decent bow after putting on a Torqueless grip.
As for fingers bows.....there is one still made today.
Oneida Phoenix.
i dunno if it would work for the longer draw though. Think it can be set for 50% letoff.
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