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How many times have you heard about some case or another being an IAC? I just read some poster on this site say that a 35 Whelen was an IAC. We have all heard that about 222, 223, 243, 6mmppc, etc. on and on. Do you believe there is such a thing? I don't believe any reasonably designed case is inherently more accurate than another. What do you think ?
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what I know, in my limited experience, is that there are some cartridges that, when chambered in a good quality rifle with a good quality barrel, seem to just want to shoot accurately and precisely with almost no regard to bullet selection, powder selection, powder charge, bullet seating depth, moly vs. non-moly, etc...
And there are some that even when given a quality rifle with quality bbl, that tend to be a bit more finicky ...
But I've also found that when handloading, once can make just about any quality rifle shoot well (read: accurately and precisely) ...
Do I believe that some cartridge designs are truly IAC's? I can't say ... I'm not a an expert on things of that nature by any stretch of the imagination ...
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.270 Win rifles are pretty good about shooting lots of off-the-shelf ammo very were. IOW, they aren't tempermental or picky.
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.270 Win rifles are pretty good about shooting lots of off-the-shelf ammo very were. IOW, they aren't tempermental or picky. Maybe you're right ... but still, according to you, the .270win is pretty much only good for shooting game about the size of a fox or smaller, so what does it really matter how well it shoots? Why not tell us about the IA, or lack of IA, of the big game cartridges you've used to take numerous elk, buffalo, deer, etc? Oh yah ... I almost forgot ... You haven't taken any game, ever, that you can provide evidence of ... silly me!
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what I know, in my limited experience, is that there are some cartridges that, when chambered in a good quality rifle with a good quality barrel, seem to just want to shoot accurately and precisely with almost no regard to bullet selection, powder selection, powder charge, bullet seating depth, moly vs. non-moly, etc...
And there are some that even when given a quality rifle with quality bbl, that tend to be a bit more finicky ...
But I've also found that when handloading, once can make just about any quality rifle shoot well (read: accurately and precisely) ...
Do I believe that some cartridge designs are truly IAC's? I can't say ... I'm not a an expert on things of that nature by any stretch of the imagination ... Exactly! Is it possible? Yes, but its not provable!
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I rate IAC stuff right up there with talks about this or that round being efficient...grins
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[quote=.280Rem
Exactly! Is it possible? Yes, but its not provable! [/quote]
Actually it's easy to prove..
Almost all the current benchrest accuracy records are held by PPC based cartridges. If the PPC's weren't inherantly more accurate they wouldn't hold all the records............................DJ
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It is an old gun writer phrase. The newer writers some times ape some of the older language so it perpetuates. I have seen enough plain jayne cartridges chambered in match grade barrels just for the hell of it, to see how they performed to know that a properly set up rifle makes them all inherently accurate.
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. . . . . and it never hurts to have a steely-eyed rifleman behind the controls, either. One with the thousand yard stare. 
"Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life." (Prov 4:23)
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Aussie, I have never heard bullshit come from you. Off topic but; you speak with experience, and never pile on anyone. I appreciate that, and am a little weary of it.
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The more I shoot, the more "myths and legends" I find are bunk in some areas. I firmly believe that a sound rifle is a sound rifle (barrel in good shape/quality, screwed on right, bedding good, trigger, good, scope, mounts, etc) and cartridges be darned.
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Aussie, I have never heard bullshit come from you. Off topic but; you speak with experience, and never pile on anyone. I appreciate that, and am a little weary of it. Thanks mate,I did not come here to blow my own trumpet, which is why I am a nobody, just AGW. If I can help a few people and save them a dollar or two in developing what they need to get the job done, that is my reward. AGW
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I rate IAC stuff right up there with talks about this or that round being efficient...grins
Dober very funny Mark.........grin
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That statement about IAC has about as much merit as the mule manure in my corral
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Absolutely some cartridges are more inherently accurate than others. That don't mean the others can't be made to shoot also though. And absolutely some cartidges are more efficient than others, that ones a no-brainer, obviously.......
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Somewhere in my stack of old Rifle and Handloader mags, there is an article by Ross Seyfried in which he said that barrel quality, bedding, care in chambering, scope and mounts, etc, etc was more important than anything else. That's all I can remember now . I'll have to look for it
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Somewhere in my stack of old Rifle and Handloader mags, there is an article by Ross Seyfried in which he said that barrel quality, bedding, care in chambering, scope and mounts, etc, etc was more important than anything else. That's all I can remember now . I'll have to look for it Wow, I wasn't too far off 
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That statement about IAC has about as much merit as the mule manure in my corral Mule manure is very unpretentious. It is, what it is. That is merit within itself. AGW
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Absolutely some cartridges are more inherently accurate than others. That don't mean the others can't be made to shoot also though. And absolutely some cartidges are more efficient than others, that ones a no-brainer, obviously....... Explain............
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Somewhere in my stack of old Rifle and Handloader mags, there is an article by Ross Seyfried in which he said that barrel quality, bedding, care in chambering, scope and mounts, etc, etc was more important than anything else. That's all I can remember now . I'll have to look for it Wow, I wasn't too far off That is a given. I'm pretty sure the question was asked under the pretense of all things being equal.....
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