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My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. #15045595 07/13/20 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas R rickt300 OP Campfire Outfitter OP rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas For instance a Model seven or 700 Remington action, a light 20 inch barrel stocked to your personal preference, topped with a quality 2x7 scope and chambered in 6.5 CM, 7-08 or 308. It would seem this platform would do a lot of deer hunting really well. I would be equally happy with a model 70 short action CRF as the basis also. I don't own a 6.5 CM so the bullets I would mostly use would be 140 gr. partitions in the 7-08 and 150 gr. Partitions in the 308. How far off am I? Dog I rescued in January

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15045601 07/13/20 Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,825 Texas southtexas Campfire Tracker southtexas Campfire Tracker Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,825 Texas Should work fine. But certainly don't "need" partitions for deer at the velocities provided by those cartridges.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15045604 07/13/20 Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 9,189 15 min from elk, MT H HuntnShoot Campfire Outfitter HuntnShoot Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 9,189 15 min from elk, MT Yeah, the CRF would be preferable in case you needed to stop a charge. I've certainly been charged by a few Whitetails. I suppose it would depend on where and how you hunt whitetails, too. I belong on eroding granite, among the pines.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15045626 07/13/20 Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,241 Northern Louisiana JPro Campfire Ranger JPro Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,241 Northern Louisiana No flies on a standard sporter weight 20-22" 700 in either of those chamberings. A guy could do a lot worse than a SPS SS 700 in 7mm-08, cut back to 21" and put in a good handle, or even a floated/bedded factory handle. Good loads abound. Cup/core 139/140gr stuff works well and is cheap. Premium 120's cost more, but shoot a bit flatter. I like the 120TTSX. Now with even more aplomb

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15045651 07/13/20 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 15,747 M mjbgalt Campfire Ranger mjbgalt Campfire Ranger M Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 15,747 700 with synthetic stock and 2 to 7 scope, chambered in 250 savage would be my idea.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15045725 07/13/20 Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,321 Greater Browningsville, KY shaman Campfire Outfitter shaman Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,321 Greater Browningsville, KY Perfect Shamanic Deer Rifle: Ruger Hawkeye 30-06 stainless w. 3-9X40mm Bushnell Elite scope. 165 grain Hornady Interlock over H4895. Genesis 9:2-4 Ministries Lighthearted Confessions of a Cervid Serial Killer

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. HuntnShoot #15045732 07/13/20 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas R rickt300 OP Campfire Outfitter OP rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas Originally Posted by HuntnShoot Yeah, the CRF would be preferable in case you needed to stop a charge. I've certainly been charged by a few Whitetails. I suppose it would depend on where and how you hunt whitetails, too. The model 70 CRF actions are just nice all around, I don't prefer them but like them for the firing pin locking safety and better extractor. Dog I rescued in January

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. mjbgalt #15045737 07/13/20 Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 202 AngierN.C. B Blueboy Campfire Member Blueboy Campfire Member B Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 202 AngierN.C. New Haven Model 70 in a 308 synthetic....TTSX 130's will get her dun for me. O.B.Wallace

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. southtexas #15045758 07/13/20 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas R rickt300 OP Campfire Outfitter OP rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas Originally Posted by southtexas Should work fine. But certainly don't "need" partitions for deer at the velocities provided by those cartridges. I like them because some of my hunting takes place in Kentucky, thick brush and hilly where I might have to shoot a deer not standing broadside and in a hurry. And Black bears are all over the place. Dog I rescued in January

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. shaman #15045791 07/13/20 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas R rickt300 OP Campfire Outfitter OP rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas Originally Posted by shaman Perfect Shamanic Deer Rifle: Ruger Hawkeye 30-06 stainless w. 3-9X40mm Bushnell Elite scope. 165 grain Hornady Interlock over H4895. I have a couple of Rugers, one an old Tanger in 270, blued with a 3-9 Vortex on it. Don't know about your rifle but mine could use a diet if I have to lug it much in my old age. Heck I could use a diet myself. I think of it as more of an open country rifle. Dog I rescued in January

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15045809 07/13/20 Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 881 Parker, Tx H HTDUCK Campfire Regular HTDUCK Campfire Regular H Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 881 Parker, Tx I'd toss my Tikka T3 Lite in 308 into the mix. Wears a 3-10 NightForce SHV Your mind is your primary weapon. Never let it get rusty. Endowment Member NRA

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15045829 07/13/20 Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,321 Greater Browningsville, KY shaman Campfire Outfitter shaman Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,321 Greater Browningsville, KY Originally Posted by rickt300 [ I have a couple of Rugers, one an old Tanger in 270, blued with a 3-9 Vortex on it. Don't know about your rifle but mine could use a diet if I have to lug it much in my old age. Heck I could use a diet myself. I think of it as more of an open country rifle. It's certainly heavier than the Winchester 70 that preceded it. However, I'm walking maybe 3/4 of a mile to my stand. If I was going to be seriously schlepping, I'd probably go with Perfect Shamanic Deer Rifle #2: Ruger Model 44 with Bushnell Banner 1.5-4.5X30mm with Hornady 240gr. XTP over H110. I know, The glamor shot was before I changed out the Aimpoint, but you get the idea. Last edited by shaman; 07/13/20. Genesis 9:2-4 Ministries Lighthearted Confessions of a Cervid Serial Killer

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15045837 07/13/20 Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383 O Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger O Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383 I have three of them: Tikka T3x SS 30-06 with a S&B 3-12x50 Christensen Arms Mesa 6.5 CM with a Swaro Z3 3-10x42 Barrett Fieldcraft 270 Win Swaro Z5 2.4-12x50

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15045854 07/13/20 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 17,801 G gunswizard Campfire Ranger gunswizard Campfire Ranger G Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 17,801 +1 on the .30-06 with 165gr., I used a Sierra Game King over IMR 4350 to harvest this past fall's two whitetails. My rifle was a Winchester pre'64 M/70 Featherweight.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15045869 07/13/20 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas R rickt300 OP Campfire Outfitter OP rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas I have been chasing the perfect deer rifle for years, a pretty respectable collection actually. The only area lacking is in the 6.5 range, seems I need a light one for hunting and a heavy one for trigger time, better get on that! Dog I rescued in January

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. shaman #15045875 07/13/20 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas R rickt300 OP Campfire Outfitter OP rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas Originally Posted by shaman Originally Posted by rickt300 [ I have a couple of Rugers, one an old Tanger in 270, blued with a 3-9 Vortex on it. Don't know about your rifle but mine could use a diet if I have to lug it much in my old age. Heck I could use a diet myself. I think of it as more of an open country rifle. It's certainly heavier than the Winchester 70 that preceded it. However, I'm walking maybe 3/4 of a mile to my stand. If I was going to be seriously schlepping, I'd probably go with Perfect Shamanic Deer Rifle #2: Ruger Model 44 with Bushnell Banner 1.5-4.5X30mm with Hornady 240gr. XTP over H110. I know, The glamor shot was before I changed out the Aimpoint, but you get the idea. That carbine could be the perfect Michigan straight walled cartridge rifle for the south zone. Can't understand why they are not common everywhere. Dog I rescued in January

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15045938 07/13/20 Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 17,818 Armpit of midwest H hookeye Campfire Ranger hookeye Campfire Ranger H Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 17,818 Armpit of midwest Ruger #1 A in stainless, black synth stock. .35 rem Leupold VX3 1.5-5x That's what I want for whitetail

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15045944 07/13/20 Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 17,818 Armpit of midwest H hookeye Campfire Ranger hookeye Campfire Ranger H Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 17,818 Armpit of midwest Originally Posted by rickt300 Originally Posted by shaman Originally Posted by rickt300 [ I have a couple of Rugers, one an old Tanger in 270, blued with a 3-9 Vortex on it. Don't know about your rifle but mine could use a diet if I have to lug it much in my old age. Heck I could use a diet myself. I think of it as more of an open country rifle. It's certainly heavier than the Winchester 70 that preceded it. However, I'm walking maybe 3/4 of a mile to my stand. If I was going to be seriously schlepping, I'd probably go with Perfect Shamanic Deer Rifle #2: Ruger Model 44 with Bushnell Banner 1.5-4.5X30mm with Hornady 240gr. XTP over H110. I know, The glamor shot was before I changed out the Aimpoint, but you get the idea. That carbine could be the perfect Michigan straight walled cartridge rifle for the south zone. Can't understand why they are not common everywhere. First deer I took w rifle was with a '66 Fingergroove when IN allowed PCR

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15045952 07/13/20 Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 17,818 Armpit of midwest H hookeye Campfire Ranger hookeye Campfire Ranger H Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 17,818 Armpit of midwest Current deer battery Steyr Prohunter .30-06 w 3-9X Ruger #1 .280 rem (no scope yet) Rem 760 .35 rem w 4x

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. mjbgalt #15045958 07/13/20 Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 17,818 Armpit of midwest H hookeye Campfire Ranger hookeye Campfire Ranger H Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 17,818 Armpit of midwest Originally Posted by mjbgalt 700 with synthetic stock and 2 to 7 scope, chambered in 250 savage would be my idea. I like your idea.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15045995 07/13/20 Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 998 West of the Mississippi S shootsacreed Campfire Regular shootsacreed Campfire Regular S Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 998 West of the Mississippi rickT300 have you seen the YouTube video Elk at 603 yards? Bull elk, 603 yards away, full penetration with a 129 grain SST. Penetration with a 6.5 bullet is not an issue especially on deer. YOMV! Experience is what you get, when you don't get what you want!

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15046110 07/13/20 Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,321 Greater Browningsville, KY shaman Campfire Outfitter shaman Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,321 Greater Browningsville, KY Originally Posted by rickt300 [ That carbine could be the perfect Michigan straight walled cartridge rifle for the south zone. Can't understand why they are not common everywhere. They were not all THAT popular. Ruger discontinued the Model 44, the Model 96 and the Deerfield due to lack of interest. It's a shame, too. Out of a treestand, out to 80 yards or so, there is nothing better when comparing stopping power vs. recoil than a 44 Mag. It certainly performed better than my 30-30. I got mine when my best friend died and left behind a serious Ruger collection. I'd wanted the Model 96, but his nephew snatched it up. I took it out for its inaugural hunt last fall: Bob's Model 44 and the Buck Genesis 9:2-4 Ministries Lighthearted Confessions of a Cervid Serial Killer

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15046127 07/13/20 Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 32,152 OMAHA 260Remguy Campfire 'Bwana 260Remguy Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 32,152 OMAHA You wouldn't play a round of golf with just one club, so why would you want a single rifle to hunt whitetails with? A single rifle would have to be a compromise, since there are so many different hunting scenarios that would call for different specs in an attempt to achieve perfection. Or so it seems to me.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. 260Remguy #15046304 07/13/20 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas R rickt300 OP Campfire Outfitter OP rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas Originally Posted by 260Remguy You wouldn't play a round of golf with just one club, so why would you want a single rifle to hunt whitetails with? A single rifle would have to be a compromise, since there are so many different hunting scenarios that would call for different specs in an attempt to achieve perfection. Or so it seems to me. Agreed. I know my collection is small compared to yours but still I have 20 or so sighted in deer rifles, all with their respective reloads in bore diameters from 224 to .451. The only gaps are 6.5 and .338. Well no 416 either. I was thinking along the lines of a rifle that will do most deer hunting without issue. Dog I rescued in January

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. shaman #15046314 07/13/20 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas R rickt300 OP Campfire Outfitter OP rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas Originally Posted by shaman Originally Posted by rickt300 [ That carbine could be the perfect Michigan straight walled cartridge rifle for the south zone. Can't understand why they are not common everywhere. They were not all THAT popular. Ruger discontinued the Model 44, the Model 96 and the Deerfield due to lack of interest. It's a shame, too. Out of a treestand, out to 80 yards or so, there is nothing better when comparing stopping power vs. recoil than a 44 Mag. It certainly performed better than my 30-30. I got mine when my best friend died and left behind a serious Ruger collection. I'd wanted the Model 96, but his nephew snatched it up. I took it out for its inaugural hunt last fall: Bob's Model 44 and the Buck Good story! I hate losing friends, so many gone already. My 44 magnum carbine will be a Contender when I get over hoping a 44 mag carbine barrel will magically appear on the classifieds of a couple of forums I follow. Dog I rescued in January

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15046330 07/13/20 Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,759 J JCMCUBIC Campfire Outfitter JCMCUBIC Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,759 Fieldcraft special run 6.5 CM with 22" sporter contour, stainless/coated. 6x42 PMII. Perfection for deer.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. shaman #15046344 07/13/20 Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,233 B Blackheart Campfire Ranger Blackheart Campfire Ranger B Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,233 Originally Posted by shaman Originally Posted by rickt300 [ That carbine could be the perfect Michigan straight walled cartridge rifle for the south zone. Can't understand why they are not common everywhere. They were not all THAT popular. Ruger discontinued the Model 44, the Model 96 and the Deerfield due to lack of interest. It's a shame, too. Out of a treestand, out to 80 yards or so, there is nothing better when comparing stopping power vs. recoil than a 44 Mag. It certainly performed better than my 30-30. I got mine when my best friend died and left behind a serious Ruger collection. I'd wanted the Model 96, but his nephew snatched it up. I took it out for its inaugural hunt last fall: Bob's Model 44 and the Buck Funny, my Marlin 1894 .44 mag didn't kill deer any better than my .30-30. It kicked harder, wasn't as accurate and had much less effective range so I sold it and went back to using my .30-30. You had a freak occurrence with your .30-30. I once had a very similar experience with 12 gauge slugs. I did not conclude that 12 gauge slugs weren't good deer killers from that one incident and went on to kill dozens more with perfectly satisfactory results. Some deer just don't want to die in the usual expected fashion no matter what you shoot them with.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15046381 07/13/20 Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy Fotis Campfire Ranger Fotis Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy Tikka T3 Lite in 7mm-08 https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com μολὼν λαβέ "Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15046427 07/13/20 Joined: May 2004 Posts: 56,102 In the Swamps DigitalDan Campfire Kahuna DigitalDan Campfire Kahuna Joined: May 2004 Posts: 56,102 In the Swamps Different country favors different guns, but eliminates none. My go to here in the swamps is a Mod 94 Trapper. It has put a few tons of meat in the freezer. Has a receiver sight. That said, I’ve whacked critters with bolts, levers, autos, pumps, break actions and muzzle loaders. Your mileage likely varies. I am..........disturbed. Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15046449 07/13/20 Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 32,152 OMAHA 260Remguy Campfire 'Bwana 260Remguy Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 32,152 OMAHA Originally Posted by rickt300 Originally Posted by 260Remguy You wouldn't play a round of golf with just one club, so why would you want a single rifle to hunt whitetails with? A single rifle would have to be a compromise, since there are so many different hunting scenarios that would call for different specs in an attempt to achieve perfection. Or so it seems to me. Agreed. I know my collection is small compared to yours but still I have 20 or so sighted in deer rifles, all with their respective reloads in bore diameters from 224 to .451. The only gaps are 6.5 and .338. Well no 416 either. I was thinking along the lines of a rifle that will do most deer hunting without issue. Probably so, but I think that a person could cover the spectrum pretty with two rifle, a bolt action rifle set up for longer ranges and a lever/pump/semi-auto set up for still-hunting in tight cover. I have a two rifle set that I use for hunting elk, a CLR for over-watch and a Remington 760 for tight cover, both in 270 and both using the same ammo.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15046519 07/13/20 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas R rickt300 OP Campfire Outfitter OP rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas I handle a bolt gun as well as my levers and semiautos the latter being AR15's in various chamberings. My lightest deer rifle is a 16" Rossi in 45LC. Got a brand new one after my stepson scratched up my old one. I seldom get second shots in a quick fashion in the thick stuff as it doesn't take long for a deer to make one jump and get out of sight. I do like messy blood trails, something the smaller bores sometimes don't offer. Dog I rescued in January

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15046668 07/13/20 Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 8,643 Ouachita Mtns, AR gunnut308 Campfire Outfitter gunnut308 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 8,643 Ouachita Mtns, AR I’ve posted this one before. It’s light, short, accurate and kills like lightning. 700 action 20” PacNor chambered in 7-08... Mtn rifle contour McMillan Mtn Rifle- Edge Fill Leupold 2.5-8 clamped in Talley Lightweights Probably my favorite walking/ stalking rifle. Absolutely worth it’s weight in Pork Chops. I wouldn’t change a thang!

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. gunnut308 #15046718 07/13/20 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas R rickt300 OP Campfire Outfitter OP rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas Pretty close to what I outlined. Nice rifle. 7-08 might just be the best short action cartridge overall. Dog I rescued in January

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15046909 07/13/20 Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 3,756 Republic of Texas R Ranger99 Campfire Tracker Ranger99 Campfire Tracker R Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 3,756 Republic of Texas My daddy's 1950 Sears Marlin 30/30 Everywhere I've ever carried and used it it was always up to the job I have other stuff to use, but it would be the last one to go down the road

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. JCMCUBIC #15046954 07/13/20 Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 481 D DropTyne Campfire Member DropTyne Campfire Member D Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 481 Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC Fieldcraft special run 6.5 CM with 22" sporter contour, stainless/coated. 6x42 PMII. Perfection for deer. Great looking rig. Wished I had bought one when I had the chance. WI am curious, what's the final weight with the 6x42?

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15047605 07/13/20 Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 8,284 Northern USA P pete53 Campfire Outfitter pete53 Campfire Outfitter P Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 8,284 Northern USA son and i both use Ruger # 1`s with custom Brux barrels in a 257 Weatherby mags we don`t need the meat so we only hunt and shoot bigger whitetail bucks in northern Minnesota up by Canada. LIFE NRA , we vote Red up here, Norseman

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15047799 07/13/20 Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 7,757 SW Virginia V VaHillbilly Campfire Outfitter VaHillbilly Campfire Outfitter V Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 7,757 SW Virginia I can think of many "perfect Whitetail rifles" but the one that comes to mind first is a Kimber 84M Montana chambered for .308 win shooting some 130gr TTSX bullets.... Maybe mount a Swarovski Z3 3-9x36 in some Talley lightweights 👍......Hb

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. Blackheart #15047996 07/14/20 Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,321 Greater Browningsville, KY shaman Campfire Outfitter shaman Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,321 Greater Browningsville, KY Originally Posted by Blackheart Funny, my Marlin 1894 .44 mag didn't kill deer any better than my .30-30. It kicked harder, wasn't as accurate and had much less effective range so I sold it and went back to using my .30-30. You had a freak occurrence with your .30-30. I once had a very similar experience with 12 gauge slugs. I did not conclude that 12 gauge slugs weren't good deer killers from that one incident and went on to kill dozens more with perfectly satisfactory results. Some deer just don't want to die in the usual expected fashion no matter what you shoot them with. As I age, I've been able to put my history with the 30-30 behind me. It wasn't just one bad experience, btw. It was all sort of things going wrong for both my sons and I. Little by little a good deal of them finally got explained. The big watershed was Mooseboy finally fessing up years later that he'd been closing his eyes before pulling the trigger. That explained a lot. I've acquired another rifle in 30-30, a Savage 340, and I'm currently working up a load for it. Eventually, I'll have 30-30 back in the rotation. It's funny you mention 12 GA slug. For really close in work, I really could find little fault with my Rem 1100 with 12 GA Sluggers. When I was doing the majority of my firearms hunting out of my bow stands, the 12 GA was devasting. That's another project I've got on the back burner right now. The other deer gun I got out of Bob's collection was a Stoeger SXS. If you're looking for a quintessential old school Ohio deer gun, this is it: Bob had this for decades, mostly as a conversation piece. He called it "Luigi;" as it reminded him of the shotguns used in The Godfather. He brought it out to the LGS to show it off. A fellow regular immediately saw the efficacy of using KAR 98 sights on an SXS shotgun and immediately went home and soldered up a similar rig. Last edited by shaman; 07/14/20. Genesis 9:2-4 Ministries Lighthearted Confessions of a Cervid Serial Killer

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. DropTyne #15048342 07/14/20 Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,759 J JCMCUBIC Campfire Outfitter JCMCUBIC Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,759 Originally Posted by CarolinaHunter Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC Fieldcraft special run 6.5 CM with 22" sporter contour, stainless/coated. 6x42 PMII. Perfection for deer. Great looking rig. Wished I had bought one when I had the chance. WI am curious, what's the final weight with the 6x42? With the Mt Rifle sling, belly full, rail w/Seekins rings, caps, and PM II it's a few oz's over 7 lbs. Swapping the rail and rings for TLW's or DNZ's would drop it below 7 lbs all up. I ended up changing the rail/rings for some steel Talley LW imitations....being steel they're the same weight at the ring/rail but it lowers the scope a fair amount and they are pretty sleek. So far I really like them for shooting...hoping that being all steel they'll hold up as well as a rail/rings over time.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15048376 07/14/20 Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 32,152 OMAHA 260Remguy Campfire 'Bwana 260Remguy Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 32,152 OMAHA Originally Posted by rickt300 I handle a bolt gun as well as my levers and semiautos the latter being AR15's in various chamberings. My lightest deer rifle is a 16" Rossi in 45LC. Got a brand new one after my stepson scratched up my old one. I seldom get second shots in a quick fashion in the thick stuff as it doesn't take long for a deer to make one jump and get out of sight. I do like messy blood trails, something the smaller bores sometimes don't offer. I grew up hunting whitetails in ME, NH, and VT where, in those long ago days, the split between open terrain, like dairy cattle pastures, farm fields, clear cuts, and power line ROWs, probably accounted for no more than 20% of the land, with the balance being wooded cover where a firearm capable of making rapid follow up shots at running deer was a tangible benefit. Even today when I still hunt trophy grade bucks in tight creek bottom cover I am more likely to carry a short semi-auto, like a Ruger 44 International or a Winchester 100 in 308 with 17" barrel, then any bolt gun, even though the first shot that presents itself is likely to be the best shot. Another one of those situations were different people who have different experience in different situations use different gear in an effort to achieve a desired outcome.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15048397 07/14/20 Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 24,638 Midwest SKane Campfire Ranger SKane Campfire Ranger Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 24,638 Midwest Originally Posted by rickt300 For instance a Model seven or 700 Remington action, a light 20 inch barrel stocked to your personal preference, topped with a quality 2x7 scope and chambered in 6.5 CM, 7-08 or 308. I can dig it. 700, 20", 1.5x8, 7-08. 120 TTSX WWP53D

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. shaman #15048433 07/14/20 Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,233 B Blackheart Campfire Ranger Blackheart Campfire Ranger B Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,233 Originally Posted by shaman Originally Posted by Blackheart Funny, my Marlin 1894 .44 mag didn't kill deer any better than my .30-30. It kicked harder, wasn't as accurate and had much less effective range so I sold it and went back to using my .30-30. You had a freak occurrence with your .30-30. I once had a very similar experience with 12 gauge slugs. I did not conclude that 12 gauge slugs weren't good deer killers from that one incident and went on to kill dozens more with perfectly satisfactory results. Some deer just don't want to die in the usual expected fashion no matter what you shoot them with. As I age, I've been able to put my history with the 30-30 behind me. It wasn't just one bad experience, btw. It was all sort of things going wrong for both my sons and I. Little by little a good deal of them finally got explained. The big watershed was Mooseboy finally fessing up years later that he'd been closing his eyes before pulling the trigger. That explained a lot. I've acquired another rifle in 30-30, a Savage 340, and I'm currently working up a load for it. Eventually, I'll have 30-30 back in the rotation. It's funny you mention 12 GA slug. For really close in work, I really could find little fault with my Rem 1100 with 12 GA Sluggers. When I was doing the majority of my firearms hunting out of my bow stands, the 12 GA was devasting. That's another project I've got on the back burner right now. The other deer gun I got out of Bob's collection was a Stoeger SXS. If you're looking for a quintessential old school Ohio deer gun, this is it: Bob had this for decades, mostly as a conversation piece. He called it "Luigi;" as it reminded him of the shotguns used in The Godfather. He brought it out to the LGS to show it off. A fellow regular immediately saw the efficacy of using KAR 98 sights on an SXS shotgun and immediately went home and soldered up a similar rig. Of all the various cartridges I've used to kill deer, I've killed the most with the .30-30 and 12 gauge slugs. I've seen very little difference in effectiveness between them. Deer shot through the lungs with either tend to run 30-50 yards and fall over. Deer shot through the shoulders/spine/head with either tend to drop right there. Pretty much the same reaction I've gotten with my .243, 6.5 Creed, 7x57, .308, .30-06, .35 Rem. and .44 Mag.....

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15048458 07/14/20 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 5,512 Roosted on a limb Yoder409 Campfire Tracker Yoder409 Campfire Tracker Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 5,512 Roosted on a limb Over the past 5-6 years, this has become my perfect whitetail rifle. Were I to start hunting deer with a centerfire again with regularity, I'd likely pick a Model 70 Compact Classic or a MK V Ultra Lightweight in .308 Win topped with a quality 3-9 or 2-10 looking glass. Wollen nicht krank dein feind. Planen es.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15048520 07/14/20 Joined: Nov 2019 Posts: 168 E EastMS Campfire Member EastMS Campfire Member E Joined: Nov 2019 Posts: 168 I had a stainless 700 SPS 7mm-08 cut to 20in, Timney trigger installed, bedded and floated. I thought it would be the perfect deer rifle. I hunted with it for a couple years and it just never clicked for me. I picked up an older 700 7mag last year that I put in a CDL stock. I don't need a 7mag where I hunt, but for some reason it fits me better. It became the gun I always grabbed when I went hunting. I sold the 7mm-08.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. mjbgalt #15048556 07/14/20 Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,531 Central Texas Gulf Coast F Filaman Campfire Regular Filaman Campfire Regular F Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,531 Central Texas Gulf Coast Originally Posted by mjbgalt 700 with synthetic stock and 2 to 7 scope, chambered in 250 savage would be my idea. How about a model 7 thus chambered? What goes up must come down, what goes around comes around, there's no free lunch. Trump's comin' back, get over it!

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15048565 07/14/20 Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 16,512 Louisiana 65BR Campfire Ranger 65BR Campfire Ranger Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 16,512 Louisiana In sporter weight barrels, I am quite fond of 21 - 21.5" barrels, all subjective. Good specs above, yet I have never personally found the accuracy I want, in a barrel lighter than a M70 Fwt. I prefer sporter weight or heavier contour, for balance and accuracy. If you hunt mostly from a stand and want more muzzle hang, a 22.5 -23 is a good compromise, especially if you need to get it out of a window. So the M7 and Mtn rifle contours, and similar, just never worked as well. I am sure they will do fine, and balance best with a very light stock and scope. No use putting a heavy scope and stock on one if you run a thin tube.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15048591 07/14/20 Joined: Sep 2017 Posts: 4,371 WI./FL. Windfall Campfire Tracker Windfall Campfire Tracker Joined: Sep 2017 Posts: 4,371 WI./FL. I couldn’t buy it back in the ‘90’s so I built it. Ruger ss Mk ll 77 action, Shilen #1 taper ss 20” match grade 7mm-08 chambered barrel, Brown Precision Kevlar stock, reworked trigger, Teflon coated bolt, full woodland camo painted, camo Uncle Mike’s sewn on sling in Nylon sling swivels, 1.5-6x42 Zeiss 30mm Diavari VM/V, #8 reticle in Ruger low rings. 7 pounds 2 ounces. I said to myself, what is the point in having a safe full of rifles that I won’t actually use? My other auto is a .45 The bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price has faded from memory

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15048632 07/14/20 Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,519 In the vicinity of dandihood H horse1 Campfire Outfitter horse1 Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,519 In the vicinity of dandihood New Haven M70 Fwt in McMillan Fwt stock. 270Win/140 TSX. 2.5-10 or 3-10 Nightforce w/IHR reticle. Kimber Montana 7-08. 120 TSX. 6x42 Leupold. Kimber Montana 270Win 1:8 Lilja, 2.5-10x42 NXS w/IHR. 150gn ABLR. Deer here might be flushed out of cattails, CRP, or tree-rows and be just off your toe-nails, or, they may be far enough away across open pasture or harvested crop ground to test the limits of your optic's reserve elevation past zero. Fall of '19 the 2 deer I took were @ 560yds and 425yds. Fall of '18 the deer were ~75yds trotting behind a doe, ~100yds standing by a bedded doe, and a bull elk broadside @ 350yds. I can walk on water.......................but I do stagger a bit on alcohol.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15048654 07/14/20 Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,531 Central Texas Gulf Coast F Filaman Campfire Regular Filaman Campfire Regular F Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,531 Central Texas Gulf Coast When I first read this thread I was thinking light small bore. But after thinking it over, why re-invent the wheel? I would take Jack O's 2nd sheep rifle. Of course Al Biesen is no longer around to build it but I can dream. That was the prettiest, most functional rifle on the planet. What's not to love? Pre-64 Model 70 feather weight in .270 Win. fit in a french walnut stock checkered wrap around the wrist in a fleur de lis pattern. All that with a Leupold straight 4x scope. Jack might have designed it with sheep in mind but that just wreaks of deer. Last edited by Filaman; 07/14/20. What goes up must come down, what goes around comes around, there's no free lunch. Trump's comin' back, get over it!

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15048681 07/14/20 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 4,922 seattle, wa, usa O okie john Campfire Tracker okie john Campfire Tracker O Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 4,922 seattle, wa, usa Originally Posted by rickt300 For instance a Model seven or 700 Remington action, a light 20 inch barrel stocked to your personal preference, topped with a quality 2x7 scope and chambered in 6.5 CM, 7-08 or 308. It would seem this platform would do a lot of deer hunting really well. I would be equally happy with a model 70 short action CRF as the basis also. I don't own a 6.5 CM so the bullets I would mostly use would be 140 gr. partitions in the 7-08 and 150 gr. Partitions in the 308. How far off am I? You're really close to where I'd want to be. As long as the rifle is stainless, has a synthetic stock, balances at the forward action screw, and throws Partitions from an 08-based case, the rest is pretty much academic. Okie John Originally Posted by Brad If Montana had a standing army, a 270 Win with Federal Blue Box 130's would be the standard issue.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15049489 07/14/20 Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 9,031 show me mo R rockchucker Campfire Outfitter rockchucker Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 9,031 show me mo i've quit chasing "the perfect deer rifle", and settled for what works for me, where i hunt, and how i hunt. Left hand Tikka T3 lite stainless in 6.5 CM with a Ziess conquest 4.5-14x44 SF. I shoot Federal blue box 140 grain soft point. and Marlin 336 30-30 with a Leupold vari-x 3 2.5-8 shooting federal blue box 150 grain soft point. Both cover 100% of my deer hunting needs. FJB

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15049556 07/14/20 Joined: May 2020 Posts: 1,644 R RemModel8 Campfire Regular RemModel8 Campfire Regular R Joined: May 2020 Posts: 1,644 I carry a 250 Savage or a 30/30 about 99.9% of the time.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15050129 07/14/20 Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 13,606 Middle of SD Colorado1135 Campfire Outfitter Colorado1135 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 13,606 Middle of SD I carry a savage that's got a heavy fluted 308 barrel and wears a suppressor topped with a quality 4.5-14 scope that throws 168 grain vlds at max load speeds. Dial for drop out to 600 yards. It'll flatten anything if it's 30 yards in timber from a treestand or out on the Dakota prairies at 600 yards. Sure they make lighter rifles but I prefer a little weight and stability over saving a few pounds to carry in and out. Ymmv. Beware of any old man in a profession where one usually dies young. Calm seas don't make sailors.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15050426 07/14/20 Joined: Mar 2020 Posts: 299 Central NY MS9x56 Campfire Member MS9x56 Campfire Member Joined: Mar 2020 Posts: 299 Central NY I have four I am very fond of depending on type of hunting I am doing. For still hunting my Mannlicher Schoenauer 1905 in 9x56 just can't be beat. If the weather is going to be crappy while still hunting I take my Remington model 14 in 30 rem from with factory peep sight. If stand hunting can't beat my savage 99 in 308 with a 3x9 Leopould on tip.if tree stand hunting I take my River model 77 RSI in 250-3000 with a 2x7 Bushnell on top. Handlers gun ever in a free stand. Life is too short to hunt with ugly guns.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15050436 07/14/20 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,003 U urbaneruralite Campfire Tracker urbaneruralite Campfire Tracker U Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,003 Originally Posted by rickt300 For instance a Model seven or 700 Remington action, a light 20 inch barrel stocked to your personal preference, topped with a quality 2x7 scope and chambered in 6.5 CM, 7-08 or 308. It would seem this platform would do a lot of deer hunting really well. I would be equally happy with a model 70 short action CRF as the basis also. I don't own a 6.5 CM so the bullets I would mostly use would be 140 gr. partitions in the 7-08 and 150 gr. Partitions in the 308. How far off am I? That's about it. If the bolt handle weren't on the wrong side of those that's what I'd use. I would use 120gr bullets out of a .260 to make the rig easier to run after the first shot. Living in a world of G17s and 700s, wishing for P7s and 202s

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15050666 07/14/20 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 28,239 W. Texas J JGRaider Campfire Ranger JGRaider Campfire Ranger J Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 28,239 W. Texas I'm partial to my McWhorter in 7mm08, 120 BT's or 140 AB's. It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rockchucker #15050729 07/14/20 Joined: Jul 2020 Posts: 304 Florida L Loper Campfire Member Loper Campfire Member L Joined: Jul 2020 Posts: 304 Florida Originally Posted by rockchucker i've quit chasing "the perfect deer rifle", and settled for what works for me, where i hunt, and how i hunt. Left hand Tikka T3 lite stainless in 6.5 CM with a Ziess conquest 4.5-14x44 SF. I shoot Federal blue box 140 grain soft point. and Marlin 336 30-30 with a Leupold vari-x 3 2.5-8 shooting federal blue box 150 grain soft point. Both cover 100% of my deer hunting needs. That's a good combo right there. Covers near and far.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15050839 07/14/20 Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 953 Virginia V vabowhntr Campfire Regular vabowhntr Campfire Regular V Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 953 Virginia For the eastern woods hunting I do, a ruger American ranch in 300 blk is fast becoming my go to. Fast, light and accurate as any I have at 100 yards with the Barnes factory load. If I am hunting over a field I will take my sps ss in 7-08 in a McMillan mountain edge fill shooting 120 gr ttsx’s at 3200 fps into small groups. That is my perfect all around gun.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. southtexas #15051307 07/15/20 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 26,517 Metairie, LA PaulBarnard Campfire Ranger PaulBarnard Campfire Ranger Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 26,517 Metairie, LA Originally Posted by southtexas Should work fine. But certainly don't "need" partitions for deer at the velocities provided by those cartridges. Partitions are never the wrong bullet to hit an animal with.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. VaHillbilly #15053517 07/15/20 Joined: May 2006 Posts: 4,062 Virginia Beach, VA V vacrt2002 Campfire Tracker vacrt2002 Campfire Tracker V Joined: May 2006 Posts: 4,062 Virginia Beach, VA Originally Posted by VaHillbilly I can think of many "perfect Whitetail rifles" but the one that comes to mind first is a Kimber 84M Montana chambered for .308 win shooting some 130gr TTSX bullets.... Maybe mount a Swarovski Z3 3-9x36 in some Talley lightweights 👍......Hb Killed 5 WT a few years back with this combo with reduced loads to boot! “There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don’t care who gets credit.” R. Reagan

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15054489 07/16/20 Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 17,098 G gitem_12 Campfire Ranger gitem_12 Campfire Ranger G Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 17,098 A BLR in 308 or 7-08 with NBTs makes a dandy deer rifle The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. MS9x56 #15055744 07/16/20 Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 32,152 OMAHA 260Remguy Campfire 'Bwana 260Remguy Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 32,152 OMAHA Originally Posted by MS9x56 I have four I am very fond of depending on type of hunting I am doing. For still hunting my Mannlicher Schoenauer 1905 in 9x56 just can't be beat. If the weather is going to be crappy while still hunting I take my Remington model 14 in 30 rem from with factory peep sight. If stand hunting can't beat my savage 99 in 308 with a 3x9 Leopould on tip.if tree stand hunting I take my River model 77 RSI in 250-3000 with a 2x7 Bushnell on top. Handlers gun ever in a free stand. What does the factory peep sight for a Remington Model 14 look like?

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. vacrt2002 #15055815 07/16/20 Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 7,757 SW Virginia V VaHillbilly Campfire Outfitter VaHillbilly Campfire Outfitter V Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 7,757 SW Virginia Originally Posted by vacrt2002 Originally Posted by VaHillbilly I can think of many "perfect Whitetail rifles" but the one that comes to mind first is a Kimber 84M Montana chambered for .308 win shooting some 130gr TTSX bullets.... Maybe mount a Swarovski Z3 3-9x36 in some Talley lightweights 👍......Hb Killed 5 WT a few years back with this combo with reduced loads to boot! You have an Excellent whitetail rifle..Congrats!....Hb

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15055985 07/16/20 Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 5,498 Wind River Wyoming S szihn Campfire Tracker szihn Campfire Tracker S Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 5,498 Wind River Wyoming From my safe I would rate my scoped 25-06 or 270 Mausers as the best tool, to kill whitetails. The best rifle to hunt them with (as in..........having the most fun hunting with ) is probably a tie............ with many coming in at "1st place" Those would be; My flintlocks, either the 50 or the 62 cal. My iron sighted 1903 6.5 mannlicher. My lever action M95 in 270 with buckhorn and bead. My marlin 36 in 30-30 with peep and bead. My Savage 99 300 Savage with peep sight. My M-1 Garand, 100% as issued. My Lee "speed" in 303 brit with express sights. My Remington M81 300 Savage with open sights. My Remington 141 35 Remington with a peep sight. My Huskey M46 with original iron sight in 9.3X57 Any of my 357, 44 or 45 caliber revolvers, all with simple iron sights, and in the case of one 44 special, only a grooved top-strap. Last edited by szihn; 07/16/20.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. Loper #15056438 07/16/20 Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 9,031 show me mo R rockchucker Campfire Outfitter rockchucker Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 9,031 show me mo Originally Posted by Loper Originally Posted by rockchucker i've quit chasing "the perfect deer rifle", and settled for what works for me, where i hunt, and how i hunt. Left hand Tikka T3 lite stainless in 6.5 CM with a Ziess conquest 4.5-14x44 SF. I shoot Federal blue box 140 grain soft point. and Marlin 336 30-30 with a Leupold vari-x 3 2.5-8 shooting federal blue box 150 grain soft point. Both cover 100% of my deer hunting needs. That's a good combo right there. Covers near and far. no fly's on the 30-30 out to 200-225. depends on my mood and weather. love em both FJB

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15056644 07/17/20 Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 4,225 Misery R Rustyzipper Campfire Tracker Rustyzipper Campfire Tracker R Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 4,225 Misery Whatever gun is in my hand while hunting is the "perfect" deer rifle. All of the above guns seem like a logical setup. Be Well, Rustyzipper. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15057290 07/17/20 Joined: May 2020 Posts: 177 G gatekeeper Campfire Member gatekeeper Campfire Member G Joined: May 2020 Posts: 177 Negative. If you don't have a Remington 66 Nylon chambered in 416 Cheytac, with a Aimpoint red dot and TWO levels, one for shooting uphill, one for shooting downhill, with an inverted bipod mounted to the rear swivel stud, you might as well be peeing into the wind.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15061156 07/18/20 Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,319 Unfortunately NY J jdunham Campfire Tracker jdunham Campfire Tracker J Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,319 Unfortunately NY For the type of hunting I do here I ended up on this. Stiller Predator 6.5x47 with a Bartlein in Remington sporter/mag contour at 22" in a McMillan classic stock. Stacks 130 Accubonds on top of each other and the deer don't like them. NRA Life Member ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15062675 07/19/20 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 151,203 Texas hanco Campfire Savant hanco Campfire Savant Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 151,203 Texas They are all perfect if you make a good shot

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. hanco #15063009 07/19/20 Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 8,546 G Gringo Loco Campfire Outfitter Gringo Loco Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 8,546 Originally Posted by hanco They are all perfect if you make a good shot hanco still hunting ....

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15064694 07/19/20 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas R rickt300 OP Campfire Outfitter OP rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas Cool picture! Dog I rescued in January

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15064797 07/19/20 Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 7,436 Indiana D Dinny Campfire Tracker Dinny Campfire Tracker D Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 7,436 Indiana Rick, I have to say I'm really digging my Howa Mini 6.5 Grendel and it seems to be up to any deer hunting task I'll ever face. It weighs in at 6lbs 14oz in a B&C stock, keeps 129gr ABLRs under MOA all the way out to 300yds, and just feels right in my hands. Thanks, Dinny Medics bury their mistakes..

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15065443 07/20/20 Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,759 J JCMCUBIC Campfire Outfitter JCMCUBIC Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,759 Originally Posted by rickt300 Cool picture! Not many pics left from when Hanco was young!

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15074759 07/23/20 Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 11,686 Nebraska D diamondjim Campfire Outfitter diamondjim Campfire Outfitter D Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 11,686 Nebraska This Savage 99F in 300 Savage circa 1957, carries a Leupold M8 6x36 on it. Loves the Winchester Silvertips in 180 grains. Deer taken from 20 to 235 yards so far have not known it is a 300 Savage. If I could only have one rifle, this would be it. ____________________________________________________________ Dying gets closer every day Lloyd McCarter and the Honky Tonk Revival

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15074822 07/23/20 Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 8,546 G Gringo Loco Campfire Outfitter Gringo Loco Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 8,546 About as good as it gets diamondjim. Sweet rifle.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15075084 07/23/20 Joined: Sep 2017 Posts: 4,371 WI./FL. Windfall Campfire Tracker Windfall Campfire Tracker Joined: Sep 2017 Posts: 4,371 WI./FL. Diamondjim, I have your rifle's '57 99F twin also in a .300 Savage. It does carry well with that rounded receiver though mine is a back up to my 7mm-08 bolt action. I did take it out last year and gunned a deer that just fell over like a rabbit, but that lever and receiver is cold to hang on to in cold weather. Yours sure looks like it works well for you and is well cared for. My other auto is a .45 The bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price has faded from memory

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15075187 07/23/20 Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 11,686 Nebraska D diamondjim Campfire Outfitter diamondjim Campfire Outfitter D Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 11,686 Nebraska Yeah, I think I am going to find another one. They just plain work. ____________________________________________________________ Dying gets closer every day Lloyd McCarter and the Honky Tonk Revival

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15077443 07/24/20 Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 67,697 N. Central Florida, and Miami Mannlicher Campfire Kahuna Mannlicher Campfire Kahuna Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 67,697 N. Central Florida, and Miami For me, the perfect white tail rifle is a Marlin 1894 in .44 Magnum. The Speer 270 grain GDSP bullet over H110 powder. A quality 1-4X scope. Hey, I already have it. Last edited by Mannlicher; 07/24/20. Sam......

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15077527 07/24/20 Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,324 NC, USA C_ROY Campfire Tracker C_ROY Campfire Tracker Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,324 NC, USA Last year I had "Redneck" build me my version of the perfect deer & hog rifle. Turned out perfect!!! Cartridge - .257 Roberts Action - Blueprinted Model 70 XTR short action Barrel - Bartlein #0 contour 21.5” bbl Stock – McMillan Sako Classic Edge brown w/black specks & red decelerator Trigger – factory adjusted and polished Optics - Leupold VX-6 3-18 x 44 with firedot illuminated reticle in Talley Lightweights Cerakote all metal – Satin Mag Pics: https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...cs/14420489/custom-257-rbts#Post14420489 PASS IT ON!

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15077845 07/24/20 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington I still like this as my gp buck rifle. 6AI, light handy and hurts shiit. Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. Judman #15077959 07/24/20 Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 18,910 Missouri 1 10gaugemag Campfire Ranger 10gaugemag Campfire Ranger 1 Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 18,910 Missouri Originally Posted by Judman I still like this as my gp buck rifle. 6AI, light handy and hurts shiit. Still need to get me some of those 80 grain Ballistic Tips to make blood with. The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15078142 07/24/20 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. C_ROY #15078377 07/24/20 Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,324 NC, USA C_ROY Campfire Tracker C_ROY Campfire Tracker Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,324 NC, USA Originally Posted by C_ROY Last year I had "Redneck" build me my version of the perfect deer & hog rifle. Turned out perfect!!! Cartridge - .257 Roberts Action - Blueprinted Model 70 XTR short action Barrel - Bartlein #0 contour 21.5” bbl Stock – McMillan Sako Classic Edge brown w/black specks & red decelerator Trigger – factory adjusted and polished Optics - Leupold VX-6 3-18 x 44 with firedot illuminated reticle in Talley Lightweights Cerakote all metal – Satin Mag Pics: https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...cs/14420489/custom-257-rbts#Post14420489 Forgot to add a hero shot with the rifle Appalachian Mtn Boar PASS IT ON!

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15078449 07/24/20 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas R rickt300 OP Campfire Outfitter OP rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas I like my 257 and I use it some every year. Dog I rescued in January

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. 10gaugemag #15078451 07/24/20 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas R rickt300 OP Campfire Outfitter OP rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas Originally Posted by 10gaugemag Originally Posted by Judman I still like this as my gp buck rifle. 6AI, light handy and hurts shiit. Still need to get me some of those 80 grain Ballistic Tips to make blood with. What bullet are you using presently? Seems effective, nice buck. Dog I rescued in January

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15078457 07/24/20 Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 18,910 Missouri 1 10gaugemag Campfire Ranger 10gaugemag Campfire Ranger 1 Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 18,910 Missouri Originally Posted by rickt300 Originally Posted by 10gaugemag Originally Posted by Judman I still like this as my gp buck rifle. 6AI, light handy and hurts shiit. Still need to get me some of those 80 grain Ballistic Tips to make blood with. What bullet are you using presently? Seems effective, nice buck. Have used the 95 grain Partition on my last 3 bucks. Works fine but always wanted to try the 80 grain Ballistic Tip as a dual purpose for coyotes and deer. No flies on that Partition. The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15078589 07/24/20 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington Originally Posted by rickt300 Originally Posted by 10gaugemag Originally Posted by Judman I still like this as my gp buck rifle. 6AI, light handy and hurts shiit. Still need to get me some of those 80 grain Ballistic Tips to make blood with. What bullet are you using presently? Seems effective, nice buck. You don’t pay much attention.. grin, or grins as the cool guys say. 80 bt’s Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. Judman #15078692 07/24/20 Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 18,910 Missouri 1 10gaugemag Campfire Ranger 10gaugemag Campfire Ranger 1 Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 18,910 Missouri Originally Posted by Judman Originally Posted by rickt300 Originally Posted by 10gaugemag Originally Posted by Judman I still like this as my gp buck rifle. 6AI, light handy and hurts shiit. Still need to get me some of those 80 grain Ballistic Tips to make blood with. What bullet are you using presently? Seems effective, nice buck. You don’t pay much attention.. grin, or grins as the cool guys say. 80 bt’s Fugg I am confused!! The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15101414 08/01/20 Joined: May 2005 Posts: 7,079 A AussieGunWriter Campfire Tracker AussieGunWriter Campfire Tracker A Joined: May 2005 Posts: 7,079 Originally Posted by rickt300 For instance a Model seven or 700 Remington action, a light 20 inch barrel stocked to your personal preference, topped with a quality 2x7 scope and chambered in 6.5 CM, 7-08 or 308. It would seem this platform would do a lot of deer hunting really well. I would be equally happy with a model 70 short action CRF as the basis also. I don't own a 6.5 CM so the bullets I would mostly use would be 140 gr. partitions in the 7-08 and 150 gr. Partitions in the 308. How far off am I? A lot of money could be spent trying to prove you wrong, but I am not sure that amount of money exists. When truth is ignored, it does not change an untruth from remaining a lie.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15138299 08/15/20 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 140 Mesa AZ C CascadeJinx Campfire Member CascadeJinx Campfire Member C Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 140 Mesa AZ My deer arsenal consists of the following: Marlin 336 in 30-30 Marlin 336 in 35 Rem Ruger 77 in 308 Win (first year production rifle with 3 digit serial number) with 2x7 Leopold Ruger 77 Mk II 7x57 with 2x7 Redfield (my favorite for deer) Sportified Peruvian Large Ring 98 Brno Made 7x57 with 3x9 scope Sportified Persian Mauser Model 98 carbine (19.5 inch barrel) in 8x57 js Spend most time with either of the 7x57s in my hands when deer hunting. But do like the lever guns just as well. CJ Last edited by CascadeJinx; 08/15/20. Reason: typo

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15138691 08/15/20 Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,080 Wyoming JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,080 Wyoming Lots of nice rifles but where are the Semi Autos? The 18 inch 6.5mm CM in an AR might be the best deer rifle going. Accurate, ergonomic, safe, lots of reach, suppressor ready, and a quick second shot when dealing with property boundaries or rough country. Father-son duo on WT and Mulie because suppressors are cool. Works on big deers too. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/9959/jq70es.jpg John Burns I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15138796 08/15/20 Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 19,002 Central MS BigDave39355 Campfire Ranger BigDave39355 Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 19,002 Central MS For the woods i hunt. Less than 200 ya shoots Perfect for me is my encore prohinter in 35 whelen. I’ve only seen 2 that came with a factory brake. Had the trigger cleaned up by Jim Hendershot. (Sp?) I’ve killed a pile of deer and pigs with it. 180 ttsx are bad medicine. Dave �The man who complains about the way the ball bounces is likely to be the one who dropped it.� Lou Holtz

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15138902 08/15/20 Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,722 In my Stomping Grounds Sbrown Campfire Regular Sbrown Campfire Regular Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,722 In my Stomping Grounds Mine shoots factory 100 grain Winchester Silvertips really well! “Alive in JESUS!” NRA LIFE MEMBER

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15140679 08/16/20 Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 7,126 Texas S StrayDog Campfire Tracker StrayDog Campfire Tracker S Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 7,126 Texas I don't have a perfect whitetail rifle but I'm not too persnickety. I like a quiet safety, a variable scope that can be turned down to 3x. a lighted dot reticle is nice, 20" to 22" barrel, a nice after market trigger like Timney or Trigger Tech, power range anywhere from .250 Savage thru 300 WSM, weight between 7lb to 8 1/2 lbs. with scope, length of pull between 13 1/4" to 13 5/8", a rather grippy surfaced paint job on the stock.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. CascadeJinx #15141242 08/16/20 Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 8,546 G Gringo Loco Campfire Outfitter Gringo Loco Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 8,546 Originally Posted by CascadeJinx My deer arsenal consists of the following: Marlin 336 in 30-30 Marlin 336 in 35 Rem Ruger 77 in 308 Win (first year production rifle with 3 digit serial number) with 2x7 Leopold Ruger 77 Mk II 7x57 with 2x7 Redfield (my favorite for deer) Sportified Peruvian Large Ring 98 Brno Made 7x57 with 3x9 scope Sportified Persian Mauser Model 98 carbine (19.5 inch barrel) in 8x57 js Spend most time with either of the 7x57s in my hands when deer hunting. But do like the lever guns just as well. CJ That's a sweet string of deer rifles.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. Sbrown #15141456 08/16/20 Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,000 ON & NB olgrouser Campfire Tracker olgrouser Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,000 ON & NB Originally Posted by Sbrown Kool rig! "Rhetoric is no substitute for reality." -Thomas Sowell

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15141736 08/16/20 Joined: May 2020 Posts: 1,644 R RemModel8 Campfire Regular RemModel8 Campfire Regular R Joined: May 2020 Posts: 1,644 250AI and 250 Savage

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15141767 08/16/20 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,553 People's Republic of New Jerse... J Jerseyboy Campfire Regular Jerseyboy Campfire Regular J Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,553 People's Republic of New Jerse... Mine is just what the OP said, a Remington Model Seven in 7mm-08. Mine is one of the early models, blued with 18-1/2" barrel. It is mildly customized, with iron sights removed and the holes filled and the works redone in satin blue. I replaced the original stock with a Remington laminate. I currently have a 2-7x Burris on top, but have used both 2-3/4x and 4x Leupold compact scopes in the past. My eyes aren't as good at 74. NRA Endowment Life Member, G.O.A supporter

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15142025 08/16/20 Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,792 East Coast B Blu_Cs Campfire Regular Blu_Cs Campfire Regular B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,792 East Coast This year its a R700 in ,358 w. Might change the scope over to a straight 6x. from 3x9. My shots here in the SE are 75 yds or less, and property lines are very close. No sense tempting fate. Carry what you’re willing to fight with - Mackay Sagebrush Perfect is the enemy of good enough

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15144499 08/17/20 Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,271 Brad Campfire 'Bwana Brad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,271 The world is full of good whitetail rifles... pick something that speaks to you and roll with it. Cartridges are more alike than different, and whitetail just aren’t that tough to kill. “Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15147315 08/18/20 Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 3,161 Georgia D d500lnn Campfire Tracker d500lnn Campfire Tracker D Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 3,161 Georgia My two favorites and close to perfect as they can be. Model 7 KS in 7-08 and M700 ADL action with hart #3 fluted barrel and Timney trigger bedded in EH8 also in 7-08 https://imgur.com/a/Mxln83A Regards, Nick- Georgia

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15147338 08/18/20 Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 741 T turkish Campfire Regular turkish Campfire Regular T Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 741 not bad. Last edited by turkish; 08/18/20.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15148082 08/18/20 Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 8,248 bc Canada 673 Campfire Outfitter 673 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 8,248 bc Canada Model 94 307 win

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15148700 08/19/20 Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1,585 Georgia Buzz Campfire Regular Buzz Campfire Regular Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1,585 Georgia Perfect for my terrain is a modest weight rifle with a 20" tube with a compact style stock. Like most easterners the majority of my local hunting is from box stands or tree stands and it is perfect for that. Just as fitting for stalking public land from daylight until dark, shooting across fields, blasting coyotes or anything else I want to do with it. I even carried this rifle on a Colorado Public Land elk hunt last fall and scored on a 6x6 at 294y at 11,400'. The modest weight was a huge improvement over the last rifle I dragged with me at that altitude before. The donor was a left hand Remington 700 Youth Rifle in .243 Win. Barrel is a Rock Creek 1-11.25" 5R in 308 Winchester with a McWoody Remington Compact. Weight scoped is 7lbs 3oz. I think had I built this rifle first, I probably wouldn't have bothered with the rest of them.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15148747 08/19/20 Joined: Oct 2015 Posts: 670 Alaska-NM-AL 450Fuller Campfire Regular 450Fuller Campfire Regular Joined: Oct 2015 Posts: 670 Alaska-NM-AL A good older lever action like a pre-war Model 71 348 WCF or an 1886 in 33wcf. The choice of rifles encourages real still hunting. Even worked in AZ on Coues white tails. "The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena-not the critic"-T. Roosevelt There are no atheists in fox holes or in the open doors of a para's aircraft.....

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. Buzz #15148787 08/19/20 Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 7,757 SW Virginia V VaHillbilly Campfire Outfitter VaHillbilly Campfire Outfitter V Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 7,757 SW Virginia Originally Posted by Buzz Perfect for my terrain is a modest weight rifle with a 20" tube with a compact style stock. Like most easterners the majority of my local hunting is from box stands or tree stands and it is perfect for that. Just as fitting for stalking public land from daylight until dark, shooting across fields, blasting coyotes or anything else I want to do with it. I even carried this rifle on a Colorado Public Land elk hunt last fall and scored on a 6x6 at 294y at 11,400'. The modest weight was a huge improvement over the last rifle I dragged with me at that altitude before. The donor was a left hand Remington 700 Youth Rifle in .243 Win. Barrel is a Rock Creek 1-11.25" 5R in 308 Winchester with a McWoody Remington Compact. Weight scoped is 7lbs 3oz. I think had I built this rifle first, I probably wouldn't have bothered with the rest of them. You have an excellent rifle and those are some great pics ....Congrats! 👍.......Hb

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. VaHillbilly #15149369 08/19/20 Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1,585 Georgia Buzz Campfire Regular Buzz Campfire Regular Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1,585 Georgia Originally Posted by VaHillbilly You have an excellent rifle and those are some great pics ....Congrats! 👍.......Hb Thank you sir!

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15149405 08/19/20 Joined: May 2003 Posts: 20,494 South Central Manitoba T the_shootist Campfire Ranger the_shootist Campfire Ranger T Joined: May 2003 Posts: 20,494 South Central Manitoba I've used a Mod 94 Winchester in 30-30 which worked just fine. Most of my deer have been shot with a Tikka M65 in 30-06. Have killed more than a few with a Browning Abolt Eclipse in 300 Winmag, but my new best deer rifle is a Tikka T3 stainless synthetic in 6.5 x 55 Swede with a 130 gr TSX travelling bout 2750 or a 140 gr at about 2700. Dead is dead. "Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life." (Prov 4:23) Brother Keith

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15149464 08/19/20 Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,499 NWintheNE mitchellmountain Campfire Regular mitchellmountain Campfire Regular Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,499 NWintheNE Had my perfect rifle built last year. Remington 700 chambered in 358 winchester. Barrel was chopped to 18.5" and its wearing a burris fullfield 2-7X. I hunt thicker woods with no shots ever over 200, usually less than 100. Also, duracoated the action, barrel and bolt. Shoots 220 speers flat nose really well. Last edited by mitchellmountain; 08/19/20. Tell me the odds of putting grease on the same pancake? I Know they are there, well ice and house slippers. -Kawi

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. Fotis #15149465 08/19/20 Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy Fotis Campfire Ranger Fotis Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy Sako Finnwolf in 308. 165 BT at 2800 fps via Varget Wears a VX3 2.5-8 now. https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com μολὼν λαβέ "Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. Buzz #15149800 08/19/20 Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,271 Brad Campfire 'Bwana Brad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,271 The 308 is just never "wrong." Probably my favorite cartridge. I've taken everything from coyotes to elk with it, including my biggest whitetail. “Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15149969 08/19/20 Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,518 Western Kentucky lastround Campfire Tracker lastround Campfire Tracker Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,518 Western Kentucky PWR # 1 My stainless Barrett Fieldcraft in 6.5 Creedmoor. 120 gr Nosler BT PWR # 2 My stainless Remington SPS in 7mm-08 Remington bedded in a McMillan Edge stock, TriggerTech trigger with the barrel cut to 22”. 120 gr Nosler BT. PWR # 3 My Kimber Classic in 7mm-08 Remington. 120 gr Nosler BT. Now my problem is deciding which PWR (perfect whitetail rifle) to take when I go hunting that perfect whitetail. They all will do the job well. PS - I forgot my PWR # 4. My stainless Ruger M77 MkII in 308 Winchester. 150 gr Hornady SP flat base. Last edited by lastround; 08/19/20. Reason: add a PS If we live long enough, we all have regrets. But the ones that nag at us the most are the ones in which we know we had a choice. Doug

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. RemModel8 #15149975 08/19/20 Joined: May 2006 Posts: 4,062 Virginia Beach, VA V vacrt2002 Campfire Tracker vacrt2002 Campfire Tracker V Joined: May 2006 Posts: 4,062 Virginia Beach, VA Originally Posted by RemModel8 250AI and 250 Savage This one! “There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don’t care who gets credit.” R. Reagan

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15150017 08/19/20 Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 8,546 G Gringo Loco Campfire Outfitter Gringo Loco Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 8,546 I'm digging the 94 .307 and Finnwolf 308.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. vacrt2002 #15150140 08/19/20 Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,271 Brad Campfire 'Bwana Brad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,271 Originally Posted by vacrt2002 This one! I prefer my non-purple 250 Savage... “Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. Brad #15150220 08/19/20 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas R rickt300 OP Campfire Outfitter OP rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas Every time I see one of those RSI's I think of the one I had in 308 and am sad I didn't buy one when they were plentiful in 250 Savage. Dog I rescued in January

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15150473 08/19/20 Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,271 Brad Campfire 'Bwana Brad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,271 I had them in 250, 7x57 and 308. Great little rifles. “Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15150483 08/19/20 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas R rickt300 OP Campfire Outfitter OP rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas I was at a gunshow in Wyoming and it was covered with the Wood stainless RSI's in 250 Savage, in fact it was the best show for Rugers I ever saw. I bought a boat paddle stainless MKII in 338 for $375. Great rifle but it was not a lot of fun to shoot. But the RSI's were going cheap, and I still wish I had bought one, 1983 I think it was. Dog I rescued in January

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15151047 08/20/20 Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,271 Brad Campfire 'Bwana Brad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,271 All mine were wood/blued. I just can't stomach the stainless/wood RSI's made now. “Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. Gringo Loco #15151122 08/20/20 Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy Fotis Campfire Ranger Fotis Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy Originally Posted by Gringo Loco I'm digging the 94 .307 and Finnwolf 308. Bought is about 10 years ago new! It was never fired! Made in 1965 same year I was born. https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com μολὼν λαβέ "Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. Fotis #15151366 08/20/20 Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 8,546 G Gringo Loco Campfire Outfitter Gringo Loco Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 8,546 Originally Posted by Fotis Originally Posted by Gringo Loco I'm digging the 94 .307 and Finnwolf 308. Bought is about 10 years ago new! It was never fired! Made in 1965 same year I was born. Wow. What a find! Pic of my Win 88 308.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. Gringo Loco #15151369 08/20/20 Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 8,248 bc Canada 673 Campfire Outfitter 673 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 8,248 bc Canada Originally Posted by Gringo Loco I'm digging the 94 .307 and Finnwolf 308. Thanks, I like the 307 win for whitetails, I just do. I use 160gr FTX in this rifle, I like the pointy tips. Its accurate but 300yds is abit of a stretch, where I hunt whitetails is pretty thick bush. A 2-7 redfield is about right for this rifle. I have shot Moose with it too as well as Mule deer....I only use it for whitetails now. Brass can be abit hard to find so when I find some I stock up on it and I probably have enough to last me until I'm done.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15152038 08/20/20 Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,271 Brad Campfire 'Bwana Brad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,271 308 works on big deer too... “Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15152255 08/20/20 Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 8,923 Texas RDW Campfire Outfitter RDW Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 8,923 Texas My current favorite is this FC 6C, probably be the FC 22-250 when it arrives this week. I also carry the re-finished 35R for backup, and the Lilja barreled Montana 223...so I guess I don't have a favorite. Dave

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. Brad #15152555 08/20/20 Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1,585 Georgia Buzz Campfire Regular Buzz Campfire Regular Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1,585 Georgia Originally Posted by Brad 308 works on big deer too... What is your goto Elk Load for a .308 Win? I drew a cow tag this year, it sure is a lot more fun to carry my little 308 than my heavier 6.5x55 or my M70 300 Winny and I suspect it gets the nod again. I used a 168g TTSX behind a stout charge of CFE 223.

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. Buzz #15159168 08/23/20 Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,271 Brad Campfire 'Bwana Brad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,271 Originally Posted by Buzz What is your goto Elk Load for a .308 Win? 46 gr's Varget, and any 165 grain bullet. The animal in the photo was taken with a 165 Hotcore. I've also used 165 Accubonds, Interlocks, 168 Ballistic Tips, etc. The 165 Partition or Accubond are always my first choice, but not every 308 I've had shoots them well. My rifle is currently loaded with 165 Sierra Game Kings. I've also used the 150 TTSX, and wouldn't go heavier. “Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Re: My idea of a perfect Whitetail deer rifle. rickt300 #15207056 09/08/20 Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 224 Washington B BCHunter666 Campfire Member BCHunter666 Campfire Member B Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 224 Washington A pre-64 model 70 featherweight with weaver 4x scope in 270 win. 150 Sierra for deer and 150 grain partition for elk. The blueing is about 50% and the stock is scratched with a good deal of the checkering gone. I have many rifles but keep going back to this one because it LOOKS like a rifle and still has hunting accuracy in spite of thousands of rounds down the tube.