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Lots of 10mm's are slinging the equivalent of the .40 S&W.
I believe that.
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Out of the box, the G20 hands down. It works, it’s accurate, holds 15 rounds and is relatively light for a full size 10mm. And you can get it with adjustable sights or easily install them. As for my favorite, I’d pick either Dan Wesson Valor 4.25” (1911 Commander) or the STI Marauder 2011 in 10mm. Also holds 15 or 17 rounds, and the trigger is awesome.
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yes, just need to make sure you buy proper 10mm ammo if you wnat 10mm performance above the .40
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yes, just need to make sure you buy proper 10mm ammo if you wnat 10mm performance above the .40 Or roll your own... DF
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yes, just need to make sure you buy proper 10mm ammo if you wnat 10mm performance above the .40 Or roll your own... DF Precisely
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yes, just need to make sure you buy proper 10mm ammo if you wnat 10mm performance above the .40 What does that extra 250 fps. get you with this ammo?
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yes, just need to make sure you buy proper 10mm ammo if you wnat 10mm performance above the .40 What does that extra 250 fps. get you with this ammo? More noise and muzzle flash, going deaf sooner... DF
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DW Razorback, only issue is, i'll never be able to out shoot this pistol, I don't need or want another 10mm pistol, it covers it all. I like that one... DF It's a dandy DF, your big Glock would make an easier hitter for hunting though. I'll trade triggers with ya... Otherwise, agree... DF You would be much to dangerous with a good trigger!
Trump Won!
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DW Razorback, only issue is, i'll never be able to out shoot this pistol, I don't need or want another 10mm pistol, it covers it all. I love that pistol .
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DW Razorback, only issue is, i'll never be able to out shoot this pistol, I don't need or want another 10mm pistol, it covers it all. I love that pistol . Yessir! it certainly keeps me from looking at other 10mm's
Trump Won!
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yes, just need to make sure you buy proper 10mm ammo if you wnat 10mm performance above the .40 What does that extra 250 fps. get you with this ammo? I dunno, deeper penetration and more surely busted bones? Underwood loads XTP and a "bonded hollowpoint" (Gold Dot?) to the same levels of you like that better.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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yes, just need to make sure you buy proper 10mm ammo if you wnat 10mm performance above the .40 What does that extra 250 fps. get you with this ammo? More noise and muzzle flash, going deaf sooner... DF That's what I'm thinking.... I can see a 10mm within short ranges to make expanding bullets expand; the 10mm with hard cast loads (for the extra velocity) are probably more for the optimism, rather than quantifiable results.
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Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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Handguns for bear defense are ALL about optimism. But I hate carrying a rifle when I go for a run, so its a compromise.
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Why would anyone want anything other than a 9MM. With it you have it all. Looks, Power, prestige, portability , accuracy, history, stylishness and envy all wrapped up into one. Why would anyone with a working brain want anything else?
I AM THE GOOD FRIEND OF RENEGADE50. HE MENTORS ME. HE PUNISHES ME WHEN I AM WRONG. HE CALLS ME OUT WHEN I AM LYING. HE CARES GREATLY ABOUT ME.
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Never seen a critter tell the difference between 1000 fps. and 1250, nor 1,500. Ever. Especially with non expanding solids from handguns. Which is why my target loads are essentially my hunting loads, for the most part.
Fatter faces, sure.
250 fps isn't even in Red Ryder territory.
If the bears notice it the deer do not....
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yes, just need to make sure you buy proper 10mm ammo if you wnat 10mm performance above the .40 Or roll your own... DF Precisely And you're achieving what exactly?
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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The .40SW is extremely intriguing as a hiking pistol with HC bullets at 1000 FPS, I tried a G27 for a while and sold it one day out of angst the 40s were becoming boat anchors, plus I shot it worse than other guns which is actually hard for me to do. Interesting today that while people are buying up 9mm ammunition as fast as they put it on the shelf, very nice 40SW ammo just sitting there and a lot of it at my LGS. The G20 sucks pretty bad when compared to the nice 1911's, maybe even the witness but have not tried one of those. It only has a few attributes. You don't care if it gets dropped, dirty, wet, or run over by a truck, then every time you yank on its abortion of a trigger it goes bang (mine does), finally I can put about a full case of AA#9 under a 200 grain HC flat nose bullet and its going to go pretty fast into the general direction I point the weapon for 15 tries. The G23 would be as short as I personally would go with a 40, and the shield in 40 would be robust but concealable for sure. If I happened onto one of the old Gen2 40's for 300 bucks I would buy it, plastic sights and all, but probably spend some money on a cheap replacement barrel with conventional rifling. Doubt I would sell the G20 though, I put some adjustable meprolight sights on it, and a heavier trigger spring, 3.5 pound connector and it can hit a Campbell soup can at 7 yards most times. Plus its fun to screw with the sights all the time trying to fix my crappy shooting.
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Speed kills. Just look at the difference in effectiveness of the 38 vs the 357 mag, the only difference being speed
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