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Looking into buying a diesel truck. I don’t have 60-70k to buy new, so I’ve been looking at low(ish) mile Ram and Chevy 3/4 ton models. I want to find something with 150,000 miles or less, and 20k (ish) is the top of the budget.
Given that, would you choose the Ram/Cummins or the Chevy/Duramax? Any particular model year to stick with or stay away from? (Based in cost, I’m probably looking at late 90’s to mid 2000 models) Cummins all the way for me. I personally run the Powerstroke 6.7. I had a Duramax and it had a fuel line problem that would kink and send me into limp mode. Injectors were going to be $10,000 a set installed. I have had friends that are very happy with their Duramax trucks, but from my experience, the Ford blows them out of the water and has the fewest "big problems". Cummins is probably the best diesel motor made. Dodge trucks have the "death wobble" from the front ends that seam to inflict random trucks. If I were to choose between the Duramax and the Cummins, I would be driving the Dodge.
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New one would have only been another $40k....
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I have an '08 Dodge 1 ton with 325,000+ kilometers (190,000 miles) From experience there is a difference between death wobble and wander. A solid front axel will give effectively you 2 or 3 inches more of clearance. Why would you worry about clearance on something as maneuverable as a battleship ? That's what Dodge was thinking anyway. The problem here is any solid front axel ties everything together. So a bad say tie rod end will mess up the whole steering. On a standard wishbone suspension, half the front end could be condemned and you won't get as much excitement. Dodge wander is a different story, Jeep used a 5 link front suspension on the Cherokee and it was pretty amazing, you got acceptable ride and handling and very good off road. Wrangler still uses it front and back. Those same engineers put it on a Dodge pick up. The critical things are compliance and geometry . Too much compliance (wear) throws out your geometry.
There is no question the CTD is the best. The Aisin auto is good too. Aisin is one of the Toyota family of companies.
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My 2018 Big Horn Dodge was 42,000 out the door. We bought it at the end of the year. Sticker was 61,000. I’d save and get a new one if possible.
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Find a Ford with the 7.3. I have 1997 f350 8 ft custom bed with the 7,3 turbo 170+k mile got the power runs like a new one,someone could own it ,I seldom use it
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Once bullet proofed the 6.0 is a fine motor.
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I’d be looking for a 2006-7 Duramax LBZ.
That’s not a knock on Dodge. I am just familiar with and confident in Duramax/Allison trucks, and an LBZ checks a lot of boxes.
I just spent a year going through what you are doing. I decided I wanted newer technology and creature comforts I know it is out of your area but a 30 sec search turned this up as an example https://www.clousemotorcompany.com/...erral&utm_campaign=cargurus_listings
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My 2013 duramax had the injection pump come a part internally 2 times in 120,000 miles. First time under warranty second time cost me $11,000 to fix. I’d do some research on model years with the Bosch cp4 injection pump and steer clear of them! It is a known problem that Chevy was happy to not own up to. Reason this life long Chevy guy bought a Cummins and I’ve been very happy I did. What year Ram? I believe 2019 and up rams use the same CP4 pump that Chevy and Ford do.
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I called on a 2007 f250 6.0PS today.
Has 170k on the clock and the guy wants $9800.00 Body and paint is a bit rough. Claims the egr is deleted. Going to look at it tomorrow.
Man, used diesels make me nervous but new diesels make my wallet squeal.
I’d love to get a new gasser but they’re pretty ridiculous as well.
Being that diesel fuel is $.30 cheaper than gas at the moment and with a pretty big increase in MPG, it has me looking.
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My buddy just bought a Crew cab 4wd 2019 F350 XLT 6.7 with 37k miles for $35k. I thought that sounded like a good deal.
I’ve got a 6.0 Ford, had it since 2012, bought with 45k miles knowing the 6.0 issues, bulletproofed at 100k miles, now has 175k miles on it. 6.0s have that reputation behind them, but like Beanman said above, drop a few thousand in them and they’re good to go.
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03-07.5 Cummins in Dodge 2500 and 3500 is a good one
The auto trannies are not that strong but they got better in 07.5+ year models. I’d get one of those if you want an auto
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My buddy just bought a Crew cab 4wd 2019 F350 XLT 6.7 with 37k miles for $35k. I thought that sounded like a good deal.
I’ve got a 6.0 Ford, had it since 2012, bought with 45k miles knowing the 6.0 issues, bulletproofed at 100k miles, now has 175k miles on it. 6.0s have that reputation behind them, but like Beanman said above, drop a few thousand in them and they’re good to go. That sounds like a deal . A 2020 F-250 STX 4x4 super crew is $56k
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My 2018 Big Horn Dodge was 42,000 out the door. We bought it at the end of the year. Sticker was 61,000. I’d save and get a new one if possible. Damn 30% off? You must be a great negotiator
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My buddy just bought a Crew cab 4wd 2019 F350 XLT 6.7 with 37k miles for $35k. I thought that sounded like a good deal.
I’ve got a 6.0 Ford, had it since 2012, bought with 45k miles knowing the 6.0 issues, bulletproofed at 100k miles, now has 175k miles on it. 6.0s have that reputation behind them, but like Beanman said above, drop a few thousand in them and they’re good to go. Looked at a 2012 today too. It had a 6.7 and priced at $14,500 Fugger had 349k on the clock.
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I have a deleted and modified 2006 Ford F 350 CC 4x4 King Ranch dually. IMO it's one of the best trucks ever made. I bought it blowed up with a 100k miles on it and I probably won't ever sell it. My only complaint is the fuel mileage. FYI a 6.4 and 6.7 powerstroke starter will bolt right on a 6.0 engine and they spin 11 to 14% faster, makes a 6.0 way easier starting in really cold weather.
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My 2018 Big Horn Dodge was 42,000 out the door. We bought it at the end of the year. Sticker was 61,000. I’d save and get a new one if possible. Damn 30% off? You must be a great negotiator Last of the old body style, wifey bought a vehicle at the same time.
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Get an 07 duramax if you can find someone that will sell theirs.
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I just bought a 2000 F250 7.3 with the six speed manual. 160,000 miles. Had a mechanic look it over that is known locally as a 7.3 guru and he said it was one of the cleanest and quietest he’d seen in a while. I paid $16,000 and the guy delivered it to the mechanics shop which was about a 500 mile round trip for him. I don’t think I got a smoking deal by any means but it’s what I wanted and about what I expected to pay. They say the 6.0 is about the best there is once they’re bulletproofed but in order to make that pencil out you need to find one for about $7000.
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If you have mid 20k to buy a diesel, save until you have 35-40k.
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Get an 07 duramax if you can find someone that will sell theirs.
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