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This 358Win is my favorite rifle for many reasons... I had my CTR re-bored/chambered by JES to 358Win as well... Great Versatile Cartridge Thinking the Ruger is a RL model. I have a RL in .308, came without factory sights, is also my favorite. Would love to find one in .358.
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Re: the 338F and elk, seems one of the authors, maybe Layne Simpson knocked off one with a 185 Barnes right at 310 yds. Both rounds are good to that distance if you have a decent BC to yield terminal speed on arrival. Cheap pistol bullets are an advantage of the 35 bore. Again, they make hell on water jugs at 200 yds, rivals a 6BR w/70 TNT or 220 swift
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Re: the 338F and elk, seems one of the authors, maybe Layne Simpson knocked off one with a 185 Barnes right at 310 yds. Both rounds are good to that distance if you have a decent BC to yield terminal speed on arrival. Cheap pistol bullets are an advantage of the 35 bore. Again, they make hell on water jugs at 200 yds, rivals a 6BR w/70 TNT or 220 swift
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I want one myself. Despite the somewhat lackluster numbers on paper I've always read and heard that they just flat out kill with authority. Is it practical probably not but practical isn't always fun. I've got a 243 model Seven predator that I'm gonna see if it has enough meat for a rebore to 358. I'll ad a brake so I can shoot it comfortably and have a hard hitting medium game rifle. My M7 Predator .243 is.665 at the muzzle - which is plenty for a rebore to .358. That's a great idea for a project, BTW, Rex
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I want one myself. Despite the somewhat lackluster numbers on paper I've always read and heard that they just flat out kill with authority. Is it practical probably not but practical isn't always fun. I've got a 243 model Seven predator that I'm gonna see if it has enough meat for a rebore to 358. I'll ad a brake so I can shoot it comfortably and have a hard hitting medium game rifle. My M7 Predator .243 is.665 at the muzzle - which is plenty for a rebore to .358. That's a great idea for a project, BTW, Rex Just got off the phone with JES. Plenty of meat for a 358 rebore on the 243 predator. I'm sending mine to him right after Labor Day. $250 and that includes return shipping.
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To the guy who indicates there are no suppressors for 358 look at 9MM. Bill Wilson of Wilson Combat says his 9MM suppressor works on 358 Winchester also. Soooo. What's the problem? Didn't hit the due diligence button? Won't stoop to gunswizard's lack of propriety. Read something in a gun rag and assume it's true?? Don't be a parrot. Be Well. Rusty
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Your post reveals just how stupid you are. GFY. If I were you, I'd be sweating an allergic reaction from the irony of you calling someone dimwitted.
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“Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away”. Antoine de Saint-Exupery. Posted by Brad.
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Maybe he thinks “GFY” means Good For You.
“Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away”. Antoine de Saint-Exupery. Posted by Brad.
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Maybe he thinks “GFY” means Good For You.
Way to see the positive Rick!
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Load the 225grain Sierra HPBT game king to 2400 to 2500 would be fine out to 300 yards. Bob
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I purchased this one here, 18 1/2" barrel has had no issues putting pigs down at 200-250yds using factory Winchester Super-X 200gr Power Point or Hornady Custom 200gr Interlock. Target is 4rds of Hornady factory @ 100yds. I am planning on having a 358 built on a Model 7 action I have.
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I have a newer Win 70 rebored by JES to .358 Win that I bought used here. Have previously had several rifles in this chamber. Currently have a 1.75-6 Leupold with HD duplex on this rifle. Getting smaller than 1" groups at 100 yards with both 225 grain Partitions and Accubonds over 50 grains of TAC. Thinking I need to put a different scope on it since it appears to be a 300 to 400 yard cartridge with proper bullets.
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Read page one...... posting before I read page two and three here. Just gonna say I’m on my THIRD 358 Win rifle, a Ruger American from the few (two or three hundred?) that Grice ordered. What an enjoyable cartridge! Owned at least one since 1985, and can’t say enough. 308’s are GREAT, too - I make 358 cases out of them! 😆🤣
(And, NO, 35 caliber bullets don’t fall out of the sky just past 100 yards... LOL! - just jerking your chain!)
And... it PAINS me to say - I had an original Winchester Model 70 FWT in 358 and.... sold... it....😱. Oh the PAIN of greediness and wanting a profit 😞.
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Alaninga, I bet that was a tough pill to swallow. I had a XTR Win-Tuf 300 Weatherby that was pristine. Killed my first elk with it. I had a coworker offer a ridiculous amount of money for it, he still owns it today. There is not a day that goes by that I don't regret that transaction.
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the .358 is more of a 100 yd. cartridge. Compare the MPBR with a 165gr in the .308 and a 200gr in the .358. Without running the numbers, I'm guessing the gap is within 20-25 yards. Huge face palm.....I agree.
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the .358 is more of a 100 yd. cartridge. Compare the MPBR with a 165gr in the .308 and a 200gr in the .358. Without running the numbers, I'm guessing the gap is within 20-25 yards. FOR THE WIN!!! Priceless, PERFECT ANSWER!! SPEAKS VOLUMES MORE THEN much anything else ya coulda wrote. 100% understanding... As my friend says... Some peoples Children... Love the 358 and its a dynamite cast bullet caliber too!!! CW
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Read page one...... posting before I read page two and three here. Just gonna say I’m on my THIRD 358 Win rifle, a Ruger American from the few (two or three hundred?) that Grice ordered. What an enjoyable cartridge! Owned at least one since 1985, and can’t say enough. 308’s are GREAT, too - I make 358 cases out of them! 😆🤣
(And, NO, 35 caliber bullets don’t fall out of the sky just past 100 yards... LOL! - just jerking your chain!)
And... it PAINS me to say - I had an original Winchester Model 70 FWT in 358 and.... sold... it....😱. Oh the PAIN of greediness and wanting a profit 😞. Quite simular story here too!! My first was a BLR 358 bought used about 1985. Had a Leupold M8 3X Scope. Second was a Ruger 77 pristine condition bought about 1992. Last is a Ruger American. One of the LAST that Grice sold. I called Grice. They wanted my dealer to call. He dropped the ball and didnt call for two weeks. In that time Grice sold out!!! I was quite upset, But didn't give my dealer Much of a hard time. My buddy, spoke with the dealer. He discovered he had a friend of a friend who was a employee at Grice. They had one rifle that they had shot a bit and was gonna put on GB. He grabbed it for me. It was in fine shape. Only bolt wear and who likes that corduroy pants noice anyhow!! I bought it and saved a few $$ at same time. The 77 ruger was sold to my uncle (with contingency I BUY IF HE SELLS!) and the BLR was sold in a moment of stupidity. Liking the 35's
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What SKane said! Love the 358. As for the 338 Federal.........................338RCM baby!
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