my pole bldg shop is just about done and next step is to find a good used woodburner. this is a typical pole bldg with 10 foot ceilings. i'm going to install the burner on a side wall. looking for ideas on how to run the chimbly up the outside wall and secure it. some kind of base mount and bracket deal i suppose. any ideas or pics would be appreciated.
Pellet stove go right out the wall with no chimney. They are easy to maintain, since sweeping the flu is a 15 minute job with no ladder. Double wall stainless chimney is pretty expensive. I can cut my own wood, but pellets are more cost effective considering labor, mess, time.
Go with a class A chimney, you only need insulated pipe above that, insulated pipe is crazy expensive.. From the stove to the ceiling you can use double wall or single wall depending on clearances. Personally I like to go straight up from the stove as its alot easier to clean.
I've seen auger tube used, but I'd still stay with the Selkirk type. You will need to clean the chimney, make sure you can get to the top without falling.
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If you go through the wall you will need at least one and possibly two elbows which will make it more difficult to clean as others have already said. I would consider putting single wall pipe straight up and using double or triple wall through the ceiling and roof. You will get a lot of heat transfer from the stove pipe into the shop using single wall pipe. Of course there are also building codes and insurance issues that enter into the picture.
i may do a through the roof chimney, still in the design phase. i am paranoid about roof leaks but i guess if its done right, that won't be an issue. i agree that the single wall up to the ceiling would provide a lot of radiant heat.
also kicking around the pellet stove deal. i will price both out. i just am paranoid about the electronics breaking in it. it would greatly simplify the install though. i have years worth of good cherry hardwood for fuel for a woodstove though and i can get pretty much all i want and i have a log splitter and two sons.
Unless you have no other choice go through the roof and utilize all that heat from the flew to heat your shop instead of losing it outside with the wall mount. Had it this way for over 20 years in my shop and no problems. Through the roof mount allows for a straight run for better draw, less creosote buildup, easier cleaning when needed and more heat in the shop where you want it, win win.
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Run triple wall at the roof, regardless of code, do a good over lap around the flange on the roof and you'll be good to go.....and stick with wood...with access to hard woods like you do and personal slaves, the pellet stove is wasted effort.
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In fact it is easier to clean with a pipe straight out through the wall, then a 90 outside, and then go straight up. At the bottom of that connection you have a cap that unscrews. You are standing there, maybe 5 feet above the ground you unscrew the cap and run the brush right up. All the creosote lands on the ground no mess inside. And then you disconnect the horizontal run and the little vertical run coming off of the stove, take that pipe out side and sweep it. I had a setup like this for years and it is very easy to clean. Also, you can run this outside the roof and not make a hole in the roof, always a good thing.
However, these new high efficiency stoves do not like these 90 degree bends. The high end stoves these day want a straight pipe right up through the roof with no bends. I just had a $2500 Jotul installed in my new living room 4 years ago and I ran the pipe straight up through the roof with no bends. It draws great.
i may do a through the roof chimney, still in the design phase. i am paranoid about roof leaks but i guess if its done right, that won't be an issue. i agree that the single wall up to the ceiling would provide a lot of radiant heat.
also kicking around the pellet stove deal. i will price both out. i just am paranoid about the electronics breaking in it. it would greatly simplify the install though. i have years worth of good cherry hardwood for fuel for a woodstove though and i can get pretty much all i want and i have a log splitter and two sons.
Straight up is my preference. Done correctly, it will not leak. It’s just another roof vent.
Wood stove shop or good building supply should have metalbestos literature, and Shirley there is lots of info on utube and the ‘net.
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I had 3 fireplace stores and installed hundreds of units and inspected burn downs for insurance companies. You're getting good and bad advise so far. Codes dictate everything and it's in your best interest to align with them.
Class A pipe is mandatory as soon as you penetrate a wall, ceiling or roof and then it must continue to termination. Minimum clearance from combustibles on single wall pipe is 18", double wall is 6" and class A is 2". Old school uninsulated triple wall is obsolete and dumbasses telling you to use it are retards.
We usually avoid sending the pipe column through the wall down low and then going up because it represents a tall column of cold air inside the pipe that wants to sink due to being heavier, thus hindering draft qualities. Starting a fire with this setup smokes like hell because that tall column of cold air is driving downward into your living space.
Another reason we avoid that setup is class A is much more expensive than single wall pipe.
I had 3 fireplace stores and installed hundreds of units and inspected burn downs for insurance companies. You're getting good and bad advise so far. Codes dictate everything and it's in your best interest to align with them.
Class A pipe is mandatory as soon as you penetrate a wall, ceiling or roof and then it must continue to termination. Minimum clearance from combustibles on single wall pipe is 18", double wall is 6" and class A is 2". Old school uninsulated triple wall is obsolete and dumbasses telling you to use it are retards.
We usually avoid sending the pipe column through the wall down low and then going up because it represents a tall column of cold air inside the pipe that wants to sink due to being heavier, thus hindering draft qualities. Starting a fire with this setup smokes like hell because that tall column of cold air is driving downward into your living space.
Another reason we avoid that setup is class A is much more expensive than single wall pipe.
You're right, I have insulated, called it triple by mistake, should have clarified. As to "dumbasses telling you to use it are retards"?.... GFY.
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What kind of wood stove are you thinking of buying? What are the dimensions of the shop? How high is the ceiling?
i was going to try to find a good used woodstove with firebrick and no cat and a glass door. something rated for 1500 SF give or take. shop is 24x40x10 with r22 blown in the attic and insulation under the metal roof. soffit and ridge vents. plastic house wrap is all around the outside walls under the metal. i plan on studding in the interior and insulating with fiberglass battens and then some sort of rough cut for the paneling. in retrospect i should have had the chimney installed through the roof first before the ceiling and insulation went in. it just didn't work out that way due to the contractors schedule and too many other things going on at once. thats why i was thinking of going through the wall and up the side.
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