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Just in the top twenty.
China phucqking binoculars!
China phucqking scope rings!
China phucqking riflescopes!
China phucqking spotting scopes!
China phucqking tripods!
What's left? Hmmmm. Cheap tripods might be a tough one maybe, but, good god there's plenty of awesome USA made scope rings, Japanese and European made scopes and binoculars. Spotters? Probably.
Just a thought, don't choose China first, maybe last would be a decent thing.
You saying you're not in the market to buy the Primary Arms scope somebody convinced me to buy a few weeks ago?
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Well if you're trying to avoid buying from China.Start selling your car,truck,appliance's, tv,cell phone and the list goes on. China is not a major importer of vehicles into the U.S. A few Volvo's and not much else. My Car's an trucks and made in the U.S/Canada/Mexico system. Plenty of appliances still made in America. Cell phone in this house, T.V's, Taiwan ( a pseudo U.S. protectorate), or South Korea, Cell Phones, South Korea or U.S.A.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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[quote=MtnBoomer]Just in the top twenty.
China phucqking binoculars!
China phucqking scope rings!
China phucqking riflescopes!
China phucqking spotting scopes!
China phucqking tripods!
What's left? Hmmmm. Cheap tripods might be a tough one maybe, but, good god there's plenty of awesome USA made scope rings, Japanese and European made scopes and binoculars. Spotters? Probably.
Just a thought, don't choose China first, maybe last would be a decent thing.
Well, that's the way the infallible system works, eh?
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I’m tryin Boomer.
I’m tryin.
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
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Weaning off the cheap-goods teat is going to take some time. With all the online ordering being done, it's simply not always possible to know the country of origin either. If you find an "American" product you like, but it's outsourced to China or another other hostile country, I suggest you contact the seller, tell them which of their products you were going to buy, and what you bought instead because theirs was Fabrique En Chine.
I'm with you Boomie, but if it's okay, my wife stays.
What fresh Hell is this?
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Well if you're trying to avoid buying from China.Start selling your car,truck,appliance's, tv,cell phone and the list goes on. China is not a major importer of vehicles into the U.S. A few Volvo's and not much else. It's not the vehicle per se, it's the parts content. IIRC, vehicles made in the US have a fair amount of China-sourced parts. Maybe the highest, compared to Japanese, Korean, and European makes. This can change, as suppliers move their production globally.
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This issue is old and lost. But when I go into surgery (or the specialist's or the dentist) and the room is filled with Chinese machines, I feel, well ... the same.
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Just in the top twenty.
China phucqking binoculars!
China phucqking scope rings!
China phucqking riflescopes!
China phucqking spotting scopes!
China phucqking tripods!
What's left? Hmmmm. Cheap tripods might be a tough one maybe, but, good god there's plenty of awesome USA made scope rings, Japanese and European made scopes and binoculars. Spotters? Probably.
Just a thought, don't choose China first, maybe last would be a decent thing.
You saying you're not in the market to buy the Primary Arms scope somebody convinced me to buy a few weeks ago? Where's there a viable 1-4 illuminati for a buck thirty! Damnit! Wait, was it China but the Bushnell AR was Korea? Well phucqk me running. You shouldn't listen to me apparently! Contemplating the Sig 3000. Sig had to farm it out to Wuhan. Fugg. I guess, all I need to feed the Kestrel is range and Slope. Maybe I can get by without?
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This thread's Funny and entertainment if nothing else.
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Well [bleep], I love me some Chinese food, at least it's made in America.
That's ok, I'll ass shoot a dink.
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MtnBoomer: Be a lot more careful when you use the term "we" - I ain't in that collection you envision and you make yourself sound stupid when you try to include "everyone" (we). Find ONE posting where "VarmintGuy" promotes any product (let alone optics!) for sale or for promotion "made in cheena"! I suggest YOU delete the word "we" from your posting! "I" ain't in it - so "we" is incorrect/fallacious/overly broad/ludicrous. "I" much prefer American made scopes/optics for my "serious" applications. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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Just in the top twenty.
China phucqking binoculars!
China phucqking scope rings!
China phucqking riflescopes!
China phucqking spotting scopes!
China phucqking tripods!
What's left? Hmmmm. Cheap tripods might be a tough one maybe, but, good god there's plenty of awesome USA made scope rings, Japanese and European made scopes and binoculars. Spotters? Probably.
Just a thought, don't choose China first, maybe last would be a decent thing.
I do my best to avoid it. Yet you promote Walmart Clearance Sales Epic!
FUGK CCP
It’s time to WAKE UP GOD BLESS THE USA WWG1WGA THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES
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MtnBoomer: Be a lot more careful when you use the term "we" - I ain't in that collection you envision and you make yourself sound stupid when you try to include "everyone" (we). Find ONE posting where "VarmintGuy" promotes any product (let alone optics!) for sale or for promotion "made in cheena"! I suggest YOU delete the word "we" from your posting! "I" ain't in it - so "we" is incorrect/fallacious/overly broad/ludicrous. "I" much prefer American made scopes/optics for my "serious" applications. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy Damn you're weird man. "We," definitely doesn't include you. You could screw up a wet dream, constantly not getting "IT" Do you realize that the word "we" doesn't mean everyone? You are one odd fellow.
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Just in the top twenty.
China phucqking binoculars!
China phucqking scope rings!
China phucqking riflescopes!
China phucqking spotting scopes!
China phucqking tripods!
What's left? Hmmmm. Cheap tripods might be a tough one maybe, but, good god there's plenty of awesome USA made scope rings, Japanese and European made scopes and binoculars. Spotters? Probably.
Just a thought, don't choose China first, maybe last would be a decent thing.
I do my best to avoid it. Yet you promote Walmart Clearance Sales Epic! Walmart selling USA made goods at discount from Savage and Remington among other companies is not the same as we, besides VarmintGuy, gushing over the Burris and Athlon stuff here. Cheerios.
"I can't be canceled, because, I don't give a fuuck!" --- Kid Rock 2022
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Just in the top twenty.
China phucqking binoculars!
China phucqking scope rings!
China phucqking riflescopes!
China phucqking spotting scopes!
China phucqking tripods!
What's left? Hmmmm. Cheap tripods might be a tough one maybe, but, good god there's plenty of awesome USA made scope rings, Japanese and European made scopes and binoculars. Spotters? Probably.
Just a thought, don't choose China first, maybe last would be a decent thing.
I do my best to avoid it. Yet you promote Walmart Clearance Sales Epic! Walmart selling USA made goods at discount from Savage and Remington among other companies is not the same as we, besides VarmintGuy, gushing over the Burris and Athlon stuff here. Cheerios. This is why you're my hero, dude. Mad props
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It’s time to WAKE UP GOD BLESS THE USA WWG1WGA THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES
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I hope your posting this from a computer or phone made in ‘Merica! Sweet Jesus, the a Canuck Obama. No, just a realist pointing out the irony of these "no F...ing Chinese products" posts. Not a Chinese apologists here but American labor and strongly supported .gov "not in my back yard" regulations enabled the beast.
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Ever wonder what a Chinese Scope Factory looks like? How many hours and days they work? How many years experience each worker has?
Probably not very impressive.
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I hope your posting this from a computer or phone made in ‘Merica! Sweet Jesus, the a Canuck Obama. No, just a realist pointing out the irony of these "no F...ing Chinese products" posts. Not a Chinese apologists here but American labor and strongly supported .gov "not in my back yard" regulations enabled the beast. This is not a "no Fing Chinese products" thread. It's a for phucqk's sake look elsewhere first thread. Fugging Burris' new line, cork soakers. Fugging Burris signatures, well if you really really need the moa, it might be the only way. But, why not support the awesome US mount makers first. Why can't Burris forgoe some cash and go America first? It's China this China that on this optics forum. Phucqk'em. Surely it's attractive to retailers though.
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The Chinese have advanced tech (which we probably sold them or allowed them to steal). I doubt that their optics factories are much different from, say, Leupold's. To hear many on the fire speak it would sound like they have child labor pounding away for hours and hours beating scope tubes out on a rock with a hammer. The Chinese are capable of producing very good tech but are also into mass producing that tech to price points as well. Their labor costs are much lower than in the US but there is a different work ethic at work there also, not to mention strict government controls. When I buy a Burris (Phillipines) FF II scope which will likely give me decades of use, I know that it is not a NF or Swarovski but I can afford to buy a FF II. What would that FFII cost to produce in America? Would I be able to afford it?
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The Chinese have advanced tech (which we probably sold them or allowed them to steal). I doubt that their optics factories are much different from, say, Leupold's. To hear many on the fire speak it would sound like they have child labor pounding away for hours and hours beating scope tubes out on a rock with a hammer. The Chinese are capable of producing very good tech but are also into mass producing that tech to price points as well. Their labor costs are much lower than in the US but there is a different work ethic at work there also, not to mention strict government controls. When I buy a Burris (Phillipines) FF II scope which will likely give me decades of use, I know that it is not a NF or Swarovski but I can afford to buy a FF II. What would that FFII cost to produce in America? Would I be able to afford it? Should you ?
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