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If I had to use a .308 on moose, the bullet I'd use would be a 180 gr. Partition. Better yet, a NorthFork at about 180 grs. NorthForks are awsome. Bear in Fairbanks
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I have seen way too many moose shot behind the shoulders with NPs go way too far. I would not trust a NP to leave every time if sent through both shoulders... So an X iteration is the ideal IMO&E.
And I have yet to see an Accubond go completely through a deer or any other critter...
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thanks guys. I appreciate all the comments. Have a good one!
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150, 165, 168 TSX. I pushed three of the 168gr TSX thru a small bull moose this year. One from tail pipe to front bumper, 5+ feet of penetatration. The TSX is perfect for large game like moose.
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My good friend shot a big moose 1000 lb'er in Sept. at 200 yards with a 7MM Rem Mag. with a 160 grain Accubond. Bullet hit behind the shoulder and exited the other side. I shot two deer in Alberta two weeks ago (a 250 lb field dressed 14 pt. whitetail) at 35 yards and a mule deer buck at 270 yards with the 150 grain accubond in 308 Win. Both bullets exited and both deer only went 30 yards at the most. I shot a black bear 3 years ago with a 150 grain accubond at about 15-20 yards and put it through both scapulas and the bullet exited. The accubonds seem to be very tough bullets. Not X tough maybe, but pretty darn good bullets none-the-less.
Anyway, thanks again guys.
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This 900 pound bull was killed in Maine in 2009 and really did not like a 180 grain Partition from a 308. Shot was 100 yards (approx.) and the bullet exited. Moose took 2-3 steps and dropped.
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I think a 165 Partition or Accubond would be the cat's meow.
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Hey, when did the start making a 165 for the .270...<g>
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Go buy a box of Remington Core-lokts or some Federal Fusions, 150's to 180's it doesn't relly matter which. Spendier bullets won't kill any deader. Then shoot the critter where he otta be shot. That's really all that's needed.
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Hey, when did the start making a 165 for the .270...<g>
Dober Well, since the question was about the 308 Win... Dober, you've got 270-itis
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Of the four moose that I have shot with a .308 I used 180 NP for three ( about 20, 200 and 250 yds) and the Remington 165 corelokt for one at about 100 yds. In all cases the bullets seemed very effective, good penetration and expansion.
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Thanks Mule Deer. How do you think a 150 grain Accubond would work? My 308 loves these bullets at 2760 fps but I thought for a moose I might have to go up to 165 grain for a little better "punch". Either would be sufficient IMHO.
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My good friend shot a big moose 1000 lb'er in Sept. at 200 yards with a 7MM Rem Mag. with a 160 grain Accubond. Bullet hit behind the shoulder and exited the other side. I shot two deer in Alberta two weeks ago (a 250 lb field dressed 14 pt. whitetail) at 35 yards and a mule deer buck at 270 yards with the 150 grain accubond in 308 Win. Both bullets exited and both deer only went 30 yards at the most. I shot a black bear 3 years ago with a 150 grain accubond at about 15-20 yards and put it through both scapulas and the bullet exited. The accubonds seem to be very tough bullets. Not X tough maybe, but pretty darn good bullets none-the-less.
Colin Yeah, if Sitka Deer really hasn't seen an Accubond exit an animal, then he hasn't seen them used much. Or only seen people run super-light ones super fast. Sumptin'. All I've seen them DO is penetrate, even on big animals, even after hitting bone. Damn fine bullet. I've not hunted moose... Only elk. Moose from a .308 I'd run a 180 Partition or Accubond myself.
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My son shot an elk with a 308 and a 150 grain partition a few years back. Hit both shoulders and found the perfctly mushromed bullet on the off side shoulder in a dinner roast (at dinner, by the way). She dived for the dirt. I'd have no issues shooting that bullet at a moose.
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If you half awake,you can ussualy get a good shot on a moose.It's when you get a "oh,sh**,that was a moose",that you get those bad shots. I would avoid your tougher bullets,as you need a bullet that expands,one where he feels ill quickly,and lays down before he gets to the water.This very very important.We use 180 Accubonds/Interbonds in our 30-06s,so a 165 in a 308 would be the same,but any cup and core like Interlocs would be very good. 1000# is a big moose,that's over 650# at the butcher.
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A friend uses a 308Win on moose and has shot quite a few of them. A core lockt 180gr or a Hornaday 180gr at 2550fps seems to do the trick. Shots are normally inside 200yds with the most under 100yds. A 308Win needs nothing special for bullets but a 168gr TSX-BT may offer a bit more ranging ability. I use a 200gr AB in an 06 at 2625fps , so if you can get 2500fps out of this bullet i think it would be excellant on moose.
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I have seen way too many moose shot behind the shoulders with NPs go way too far. I would not trust a NP to leave every time if sent through both shoulders... So an X iteration is the ideal IMO&E.
And I have yet to see an Accubond go completely through a deer or any other critter... Everybody wants to use their anecdotal evidence based on a success story or two or four, or whatever... Successes are not nearly as indicitive of reliability as are failures. Unacceptable performance for a bullet where big stuff roams... Deer at relatively long range... And bad enough the bullet did so poorly, we had company at just over 400 yards from where two deer died... And a bullet like these two would be a poor choice for big bears. Again, slowly, the failures count a lot more than the successes. Though deer died the angles were perfect and the shots were in proper places, the bullets simply failed to maintain integrity when hitting a little bone at extended range. If they are inadequate for sedate velocities a little warp speed seems foolish... art
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I have looked at this quite a bit, as I've had .308s all my life, but only ever hunted moose with a magnum. I've come to the conclusion that if I were to use my .308's, I'd go with the 150 TTSX...
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I've come to the conclusion that if I were to use my .308's, I'd go with the 150 TTSX... Here's a 150 TTSX launched from a 308 Win and recovered from last years elk... I'd prefer the Accubond's in Art's pics personally:
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The Accubombs were recovered well before the offside on broadside shots on smallish deer at extended range. Given the range and the fact they hit about where they should have it indicates no problems like reloading error or anything beyond poor penetration.
If that TTSX was pushed at reasonable speed it would either pass through or upset and be stopped. Failure to open would normally be associated with "excess" penetration...
Considering the fact I saw 4 Accubombs in a row fail to penetrate from three different rifles leaves me with zero faith in them for penetrating. They would be fine for deer bullets, but I would not use them for anything of size or heft...
The fact Brad has a failure does not surprise me. With no way to investigate the failure all we can deduce is something happened to prevent the bullet from reaching appropriate speed...
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