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There seems to be a turd in every batch. A relative just told of his Bergara 6.5 Creed that shot 3.5" groups. Very disappointed. It is the first I have heard of being that bad.

Hmmm. Couldn't have been the cartridge. Must have been the rifle.

Or the scope, the mounts, the shooter.... ta dum dee dum dee dum

Needless to say, the haters will cling to one example that "proves" their point like remoras.

Could have been the rifle, could have been the scope/mounts, could have been the shooter. But since he is intelligent and experienced I'll wait for him to tell me if he got complacent and made mistakes.

On another forum I've belonged to for many years the .270 hate is unbelievable. I can't even bring a .270 up without getting the post deleted by a mod. I've never even shot any 6.5. I don't hate them, in fact I have wanted a modern rifle chambered in 6.5x55 or maybe a 6.5x57 for awhile. I do see why the hate exists. People that don't have one and have something they love more are sick of continually hearing all the praise. One thing that's kinda stupid is some people that never shoot at anything over 200-300 yards will tell you about how the 6.5s are magical at shooting at long distance. Then tell you about how they killed a deer at 150 yards. I don't believe for a minute there's anything special about either one, the .270 or the 6.5 other than they're both a couple of great deer rifles and they seem to work well on elk with good bullets. But there's many a good deer rifle, like a .30-30 or a 7-08, or hell an 06. They're all good.

Some people get all hyped about a fancy bullet but when they use it on a game animal that it's not really ideal for, they'll blame the cartridge and sell the gun. I've had bad luck on deer with a bullet that was made for bigger animals. But I knew damn well from experience that another bullet worked great for that rifle.

Or the .270 haters will tell you it's not a good cartridge because there's not enough bullets available for it. I got news for them, there's a lot of bullets available for a .270 now days. But then it's not really known as a target rifle and most people that shoot one use three different bullet weights, 130, 140 or 150 grains.

People develop hate for many cartridges for stupid reasons.

here`s what i think needs to be done = send this rifle to Mule Deer let him shoot this rifle then we all will know the real truth. and yes you pay the shipping both ways and if Mule Deer shoots the same size groups with this rifle as has been shot > 3 1/2 inches at 100 yards, i will send you a check for the shipping. BUT ! if Mule Deer`s groups are better you need to post the truth and you eat the shipping.

Thanks.


Okie John

I'll tell you what, you come up, shoot it and if you can get it to shoot as is into .5" I'll buy you a steak and you pay your own damn way.

Of course since I am not the owner you'll have to get permission from him.

I used to be a .270 hater, but only because my brother had one and I had a 30-06. I bought a .270 in the mid 90's only because it was a good deal on a pre-64 Winchester. Turns out it is nicely accurate and over the past 20 years it has accounted for most of my antelope and half my deer. In the open country I usually hunt elk in I have thought that since people are taking elk with much smaller cartridges it will be ok for that too.

I don't hate any cartridge (although my feelings about the WSM cartridges certainly approach loathing) but I have to be shown. My Creedmoor is a purpose built silhouette rifle and it seems to shoot pretty well. I have not fired it off sandbags and have never fired a group but, when I shoot it with my elbows rested on the bench, shots hit where the dot is. Does it shoot better than the 6.5x55 it replaces? I can't honestly say but velocities seem more consistent which can't hurt. GD

Something that I have not seen mentioned is recoil - or lack thereof. It's much easier to shoot 20-30 round through a 6.5CM than a 300 Win Mag without getting flinchy. Not to mention that it is fun and not punishing so they they tend to get shot more, which is also a good thing. Along with the inherent accuracy of the cartridge and modern specs and manufacturing of both rifles and ammo the 6.5CM is a very competent round.