I was looking more and looks like in the 700-800 range I would have options in 270 wsm... Tikka Browning winchester etc
One of your criteria is low recoil, but you have mentioned two short magnums. .270 wsm and 6.5 prc, which is a necked down .300 Ruger Compact Magnum. Magnums don't usually equal low recoil. I understand that everyone has a different recoil tolerance, and that a properly designed stock mitigates a good deal of the felt recoil, but physics are physics. The faster you launch a projectile, the more recoil you are going to have.
I'm a big 6.5 fan , I think I have 5 of them but don't beat up on a 270 WSM too bad. Good bullets do good things when you put them where they should go, even if they are .013" bigger or smaller than the other.
I haven’t stretched my 7mm-08 to 400 yards on elk but my nephew has. 5x6 bull a couple of years ago, 150 Eldx, 409 yards. Dead in a hurry. My farthest bull with a 7mm-08 was a spike at 346 yards. DRT, not a step.
Take a close look at the 7mm-08. 150 grain bullet, .574 bc at 2790 mv is no joke.
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I'm a big 6.5 fan , I think I have 5 of them but don't beat up on a 270 WSM too bad. Good bullets do good things when you put them where they should go, even if they are .013" bigger or smaller than the other.
Great pics Mike. Hope all is well with you, and good luck this year on your hunts.
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So maybe I am not as recoil sensitive as I thought. I was running some reoil numbers, and comparing them to the 45 70 i shot for several years. I had a 420 grain bullet running at 1550 fps which according to what I found should be very similar to a 7mm mag with a 160 at 3150 fps. I was able to handle the 45-70 even though I would not want to shoot more than 15-20 rounds at a time, I could keep from flinching. The only thing I don't like about the 7 mags is that most in my price range have the 1:9.5 twist.
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......the occasional hunter wielding a hopelessly inaccurate rifle, living by the fantastical rule that this cartridge can deliver the goods, regardless of shot placement or rifle accuracy. The correct term for this is minute of ego.
I have or have had about all the 6.5"s except the prc and was also looking at getting the mauser 18 but got to looking for ammo and couldn't find any so end of story
So maybe I am not as recoil sensitive as I thought. I was running some reoil numbers, and comparing them to the 45 70 i shot for several years. I had a 420 grain bullet running at 1550 fps which according to what I found should be very similar to a 7mm mag with a 160 at 3150 fps. I was able to handle the 45-70 even though I would not want to shoot more than 15-20 rounds at a time, I could keep from flinching. The only thing I don't like about the 7 mags is that most in my price range have the 1:9.5 twist.
I usually don't feel recoil when I'm hunting. Have you considered getting either a .270 or 30/06, hunt with it for a year and having it re-barreled into a .280 AI for next year? You could spread your costs out that way.
Just took a large AK moose with my .264 Win Mag last week. Shooting 140 Partitions @ 3,050 fps. High shoulder shot at 80 yds put him down for good. Found bullet under the hide on the far side.
I've never seen a 6.5 anything used on elk, that I can recall. Strange. I've seen smaller (243, 6mm, 257 Roberts) and bigger (270, 280, 7RM, 30-06, various 30 cal magnums, etc.). What I noticed is that the animals all died about the same when shot well, and went a ways when they weren't. I have and hunt with folks that have a "shoot until it doesn't get up" rule. Shooting and then admiring the shot isn't allowed.
The most dramatic kills I've seen where the CNS wasn't a factor were from a 257 Roberts and 100gr Partitions at 250 Savage speed from just over 100 yards, a 300 SAUM shooting 190 Bergers at 70-80yds, and a 300 RUM at just over 200 using 180gr Sciroccos. All broadside, and all bang-flop. It really is the Indian, and not so much the arrow, I think. Elk don't want to die, but they succumb fast when hit in the right spot.
So maybe I am not as recoil sensitive as I thought. I was running some reoil numbers, and comparing them to the 45 70 i shot for several years. I had a 420 grain bullet running at 1550 fps which according to what I found should be very similar to a 7mm mag with a 160 at 3150 fps. I was able to handle the 45-70 even though I would not want to shoot more than 15-20 rounds at a time, I could keep from flinching. The only thing I don't like about the 7 mags is that most in my price range have the 1:9.5 twist.
I usually don't feel recoil when I'm hunting. Have you considered getting either a .270 or 30/06, hunt with it for a year and having it re-barreled into a .280 AI for next year? You could spread your costs out that way.
Most people don’t feel recoil when taking the shot at the animal. I admit I need to practice so while doing so recoil is noticed. Especially when practicing in different positions.
Yep. Seen a few creedmoors, LOTS of 6.5-284, and quite a few with my own 264 win, which now belongs to a friend that guides with me. They kill Elk just fine.
Yep. Seen a few creedmoors, LOTS of 6.5-284, and quite a few with my own 264 win, which now belongs to a friend that guides with me. They kill Elk just fine.
I killed two raghorn bulls last year in Colorado and Wyoming (at 150 and 250 yards), both dead right there. Used a Long Rifles Inc. custom Mountain Rifle with Pierce Ti action in 6.5 GAP 4S, 156 Berger at 2850 fps.
Funny, I've been researching the 6.5 PRC. Any experiences with elk at close range with 0.264 bullets? I tend toward a stouter bullet when I'm elk hunting because I've shot most at less than 100 yards and as close as 30 feet.