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No meaningful advantage of any one of those three cartridges over the others, so take the rifle that you like the best.
I hunt elk with a pair of 270s, a CLR to use on overwatch and a Remington 760 to use in the timber. I could use the same two rifles in 30-06, but I chose to use them in 270. The 270 worked well for JOC and the improvements in bullet design and manufacturing has made even better than it ever was in his prime. Yes they really perk up with the new powders.
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With modern bullets not much difference unless you compare oranges and apples. That say, they both have been reborn. My 24” 30/06 chronies 3200 with 130 gr ttsx & 3275 with 125 bt. And 58 gr Varget. It would be hard for me to shoot my 270 to chase a little more bc. They both shoot better than I do.
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I do not think it is a huge advantage in real world situations. Over 40 years of hunting and I have shot exactly one deer over 300 yards. So I have no real world experience. Huge 270 fan here, and will be taking one after antelope next weekend.
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I like to shoot my 270 at longer ranges better than my 06. Most of my hunting/kills are under 300 so the 06 is a clear choice. 270 with 130 ttsx or 06 with 168ttsx are deadly
All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.
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I like to shoot my 270 at longer ranges better than my 06. Most of my hunting/kills are under 300 so the 06 is a clear choice. 270 with 130 ttsx or 06 with 168ttsx are deadly Uust curious, but what game are you shooting under 300 yards where the 30-06 would be a clear choice over a 270 using comparable bullets?
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No meaningful advantage of any one of those three cartridges over the others, so take the rifle that you like the best.
I hunt elk with a pair of 270s, a CLR to use on overwatch and a Remington 760 to use in the timber. I could use the same two rifles in 30-06, but I chose to use them in 270. The 270 worked well for JOC and the improvements in bullet design and manufacturing has made even better than it ever was in his prime. What is a CLR? BTW I don't have one, and all but my '94 are bolt guns but there's just something I love about 760s. Remington always made good pump shotguns so I know a 760s gotta be first rate.
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I like to shoot my 270 at longer ranges better than my 06. Most of my hunting/kills are under 300 so the 06 is a clear choice. 270 with 130 ttsx or 06 with 168ttsx are deadly Uust curious, but what game are you shooting under 300 yards where the 30-06 would be a clear choice over a 270 using comparable bullets? There ain't a dimes worth a practcal difference in the two. I love the .270 because it was the first rifle I bought and I have used it for the past 54 years with a lot of success. But I now have 2 .30-06s that I also love. If one has a real advantage over the other, the .30-06 is capable of taking bigger game than a .270 because of the availability of heavy bullets due to its larger diameter. But around here of the game we have in Texas the two are equal. These two, the .270 and the .30-06, are the greatest of American cartridges.
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BTW I don't have one, and all but my '94 are bolt guns but there's just something I love about 760s.
Remington always made good pump shotguns so I know a 760s gotta be first rate.
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I like to shoot my 270 at longer ranges better than my 06. Most of my hunting/kills are under 300 so the 06 is a clear choice. 270 with 130 ttsx or 06 with 168ttsx are deadly Uust curious, but what game are you shooting under 300 yards where the 30-06 would be a clear choice over a 270 using comparable bullets? Elk is my primary game. Maybe it’s because of the rifle . 06 is a Tikka and is lighter and easier for me to handle than the 270 in tc venture. My 270 is tack driver and I am much more accurate it with it after 400 yards than the 06. The 270 is always with me as a back up or a loaner.
All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.
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The 30.06 is a fine round. There is almost nothing in North America it can't handle. I've killed a lot of stuff with it. It's the work horse of the gun world. A good work horse can be ridden, he'll pull a wagon, you can load a pack saddle on him, etc. The thing is he's not ideal for any of those tasks. Same goes for the 30.06. That's why my pre-64 M70 stays in the safe a lot these days.
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No meaningful advantage of any one of those three cartridges over the others, so take the rifle that you like the best.
I hunt elk with a pair of 270s, a CLR to use on overwatch and a Remington 760 to use in the timber. I could use the same two rifles in 30-06, but I chose to use them in 270. The 270 worked well for JOC and the improvements in bullet design and manufacturing has made even better than it ever was in his prime. What is a CLR? BTW I don't have one, and all but my '94 are bolt guns but there's just something I love about 760s. Remington always made good pump shotguns so I know a 760s gotta be first rate. CLR = Colt Light Rifle?
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No meaningful advantage of any one of those three cartridges over the others, so take the rifle that you like the best.
I hunt elk with a pair of 270s, a CLR to use on overwatch and a Remington 760 to use in the timber. I could use the same two rifles in 30-06, but I chose to use them in 270. The 270 worked well for JOC and the improvements in bullet design and manufacturing has made even better than it ever was in his prime. What is a CLR? BTW I don't have one, and all but my '94 are bolt guns but there's just something I love about 760s. Remington always made good pump shotguns so I know a 760s gotta be first rate. CLR = Colt Light Rifle? Correct answer
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Great thread and when I read this type of discussion on distance/caliber/bullets I’m sometimes reminded of a conversation I listened to, circa 1970.
One of the true Cajun guys I knew had only ever hunted with a Winchester Model 94 in 30-30 that was handed down from his grandfather and finally to him. He killed a lot of swamp deer with that rifle. We ran deer dogs in the swamp in those days.
He told several of us at the swamp camp that he was getting himself a new rifle, a BAR in Remington 7mm mag. One of the guys said, “Brother Boo, dat ting made for shootin cross canyons and stuff”.
Boo said, “ hot damn,Man, shoot far, shoot close”.
And so it is. If it’ll shoot far, it’ll shoot close.
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It is all about the individual bullet, weight, shape and velocity. Daughter shoots a 130g TTSX @ 3045fps in her .308 Win, and a 150g ABLR @ 2910fps in her .270. She has used the .308/130g TTSX for elk but will use the ..270/150g ABLR this year.
Comparing like-weight bullets at 7000 feet, say 130g TTSX, a .270 can deliver 1500fpe to about 100 yards further than a .308 do.
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Comparing like-weight bullets at 7000 feet, say 130g TTSX, a .270 can deliver 1500fpe to about 100 yards further than further than a .308 do.
Shhh, don’t ya know fpe “don’t mean anything” ? Don’t confuse them with stats !! Not to mention— the increase is because of B C which translates to Flatter trajectory & Retained ‘Speed’, aka velocity which means it hits HARDER ! Keep the secret. Jerry
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