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I think Gunner runs a 320 Woodleigh in his 9.3x62 around 2400.. Pretty darned powerful combo. Can't imagine those not smacking like a freight train.

I ran the 310 Woodleigh in my 35 WAI at 2400fps with R15. Shot a hog at 30 steps, 40 cal entrance hole, 75 caliber out, soup in between, no blood shot meat! I killed a wad of PG with the 250X originally @2600 then went to the 200X @ 2970fps. That was with a 22" barrel too. But the most "useful" bullet I used was the Barnes 200X and then the 200TTSX (latter was never bloodied) I had the 200x going 2970fps. For grins I tested it sighted +3" @ 100 gave me -3" at 300! I killed zebra at 250 and Black Wildebeest at 347yds. I always hunted with it with a +2"@100, just held on the back of the Black Wildebeast. I still feel that for the majority, a 300WM is a better long range elk rifle. It hits hard, and is flat shooting.

Last time I checked tests, ballistic coefficients and FPS never killed anything. It’s holes in and out letting air and blood out that kills things and that is something the Whelen excelled at. You keep your 300 mag and I will stick with my Whelen making meat. Not punching paper.

It depends on what the hunter expects and is prepared to handle.

I hunted Roosevelt elk with a guy who had one of the most CLASSIC Roosevelt rigs you could imagine: a 22" bolt action in 35 Whelen with a 1-5 Leupold and 225-grain bullets handloaded to 2,600 fps. He expected—and prepared for—a shot in the timber, but the only bull he saw was roughly a quarter-mile out. He passed up the shot and went home empty-handed because he wasn't ready to take it.

He probably could have made that shot with his Whelen had he prepared for it, but the probability of hitting at longer ranges goes WAY up with a 300. Most 300 WM shooters have a long shot in the back of their minds and they prepare for it—which is why they choose the 300 in the first place.

Nice necropost, though.


Okie John

MS

I haven't gone thru this whole thread, it's old. I probably posted moren once.

FOR MY purposes - My Purposes - I'll take the 300 WM over the Whelen. I made one before Rem adopted it and
I liked it. However it isn't nearly as versatile as the 300 can be.

FPS does translate into FLATTER trajectory. FPS does translate into flatter trajectory.

It's GOOD we all don't prefer the SAME things. Variety is a good thing. Again, I like the 35 Whelen but for
My Purposes I'll take the 300 WM.

Jerry

Howboutthat ?

Okie posted AS I was typing and the focus is the same.

Jerry

Anyone ever neck up 300WM to 35 or 36?
Now there is an idea!

Ya wouldn’t be bad, between a 358 nm and a 358 sta. The new whelen loads via Speer though, I’ll stick to my whelen

WIENIE !



Hey, my 8 mini mini RM kicks ENUFF !


Jerry

Who on this forum is old enough to remember Elmer Keith sadly shaking his head and saying "he's gone high velocity."

I'll never admit it !! LOL

As MD et.al. have said, Elmer didn't have velocity failures.....

he had BULLET failures ! YES when bullets don't live up to publicity.....they FAIL !

Jerry

One blowhard this year, shot a 50+ inch moose cross river from my place, 7 times with a 28 nosler. Was that typical long range tool with a 16 inch long scope with what had to be greater than 50mm objective.

35 whelen (or any standard medium bore), represents everything Id want in a general purpose Alaskan rifle. The 300 win mag represent everything Blood shot mess, that I wouldn't want in a rifle.

338 federal, 338-06, 358 winchester, 35 whelen, 9x57 9x62.

Go up in caliber, down a bit on velocity. Ask Doctari what that does for penetration.....

AND some people can't CHOOT ! !


Jerry

I'll.play, but will color outside the lines.

I don't like belted cases, so the 300 Win mag would never be on my list, so Between the two, I'd take the 35 Whelen.

Now for the coloring outside the lines. I'd take a 30-06 with a 200 grain bullet over either for them.

As bullets improved, Elmer embraced higher velocities, such as the .334OKH and .338-378KT. He remained convinced that the .33 caliber was an improvement over .30 and under. When others sneered that he was using "overkill" he responded by asking"what, you mean they will be overdead?"