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I have my eye on two Classic Model 70’s in either 7mm WSM or .30-06. Any advice y’all have would be appreciated. Thanks
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I like the old .30/06, they feed really smoothly, and that's good enough for me. Someone else's opinion might vary from mine, of course, but is there anything you can't do with an '06 in this country? My Classic shot really well, and killed stuff real dead, too.
Of course, so will the 7mm WSM, but that's why Winchester made both, to give options.
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Unless you're a proper looney, get the 06. Ammo is abundant, there's quite a variety, and it can be cheap.
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30-06 is never a wrong choice.
The only hing that concerns me about the WSM is ammo availability, both factory and reloading.
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Of the two go 30-06. Way more components available.
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I would get the 30-06.Not that the 7WSM is a bad cartridge,but the 30-06 has many advantages as previously stated.The 7WSM may beat it at longer distances,but with the powders and bullets available today,the 30-06 is better than ever.I think it hits as hard or maybe even a little harder than my 7mags which are more comparable to the 7WSM.The 30-06 also offers a wider range of bullet weights too.
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No brainer, the fact you asked for opinions only proves it. You can buy 30-06 ammo anywhere at about anytime for a reasonable price. If you got to buy a 7 make it a 7mm Rem mag cause you can buy it anywhere relatively cheap. I keep up ok with what ammo costs you can buy 4 boxes of wallyworld blue box Federal 06 loads for maybe the cost of 2 boxes of 7 wsm if you can even find whizzums. The 7 wsm for a factory load shooter will be a god damned headache to keep fed compared to the 30-06 especially these days. You asked and I gave you the straight of it. MB
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Unless you're a proper looney, get the 06. Ammo is abundant, there's quite a variety, and it can be cheap. Unless it’s an election year! First time in history more 7WSM on the shelves than ‘06. Sportsman’s Warehouse was EMPTY. 2 boxes of Barnes 180’s and a box of Scirocco Crazy.
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Unless you're a proper looney, get the 06. Ammo is abundant, there's quite a variety, and it can be cheap. Unless it’s an election year! First time in history more 7WSM on the shelves than ‘06. Sportsman’s Warehouse was EMPTY. 2 boxes of Barnes 180’s and a box of Scirocco Crazy. You mean right next to the 280 rem ammo...
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What'ya gonna be shooting?
Between the two, I'd chose the 7mmWSM. It'll shoot flatter than the 30-06, and can easily take anything short of the big bears.
If the rifle is for hunting whitetails (just a guess based on your location), though, I'd say both cartridges are way overkill.
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I believe Mule Deer has or had an excellent 7mm WSM, so not a bad cartridge. But like a bad habit, you’ll have plenty of experience feeding it due to ammo and case availability. Of the short fat mags, the .300 WSM and maybe .270 WSM are the only ones that will stay in production.
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I think the 7mm WSM has a lot going for it, except as already mentioned, ammo and component availability. If you handload and don't mind the wrong headstamp, you can form it from one of the other WSM cases. 30-06 is the pragmatic choice. If you can swing it, could buy both.
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Unless you're a proper looney, get the 06. Ammo is abundant, there's quite a variety, and it can be cheap. Unless it’s an election year! First time in history more 7WSM on the shelves than ‘06. Sportsman’s Warehouse was EMPTY. 2 boxes of Barnes 180’s and a box of Scirocco Crazy. You mean right next to the 280 rem ammo... There was a little bit of Nosler 280AI.
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30-06, an I'm not it's biggest fan by far.
But, there is a reason it is the baseline every other cartridge In class
is judged by.
Let me get a screaming deal on either of those, I'm buying.
But the 7 would cost me a lot more to get up and running.
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7mm WSM...for the cool factor.
I have 2 .30-06's and they haven't seen daylight in years. The 7 WSM goes with me everywhere.
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I have a 30-06 and a 300wsm....
My 30-06 can do anything my 300wsm can do. And it can do it with less recoil.
I would say... if you hand load. You can load the 7wsm to fit any need you have and I would buy the 7wsm
If you don't hand load. Buy the 30-06.
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