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Would be interesting to hear if anyone has ripped a problem child off their action, had it cryoed (or toasted) and ended up with a good one.
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I was thinking of having a witch doctor sacrifice a chicken or two over my next custom barrel, mostly for accuracy purposes, but also for reduced fouling.
Anyone had any positive experiences with that?
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I was thinking of having a witch doctor sacrifice a chicken or two over my next custom barrel, mostly for accuracy purposes, but also for reduced fouling.
Anyone had any positive experiences with that? Better than cryo.
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Had a early 90's push-feed Featherweight in 6mm Rem. that wouldn't group better than about 2.5' with anything, factory or handload. There was a place in Austin, where my sister happened to live that had a reasonable price for the cryo treatment. So, I sent it down one time when she was up for a visit. Got it back 6-8 weeks later. Put it back in the stock and got it on the page at 100. Let it cool and then shot a group using the now discontinued Remington Extended Range which iirc was loaded with a 105g Speer SP. First group was between 0.5" and 0.75". As was the next and the next. Hated it when that ammo was discontinued. Now load a Barnes 1G 90g XFB Bullet at about 3300fps that groups just under 0.5" Those bullets are also discontinued but I have a few hundred so I'm good.
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I had a problem 7mm-08 model 70 push feed done that would walk 7” from first shot to the 5th shot. After cryo treatment it settled down and stayed put, but was still a 2 MOA shooter. Replaced the barrel with a Rock Creek in duplicate featherweight contour and it finally shot easy sub moa.
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Hill Country Rifles used to cryo all barrels as part of the accurizing service but now I think they just sacrifice some chickens. It is surprising what it does for knives. It can increase the Rockwell hardness 2 points and the steel grain size is smaller or so they say. It works so not sure why it does so little for stainless barrels other than for machining.
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It is a fact the Cryogenic treatment changes the metal.
But any off the shelf Bartlein, Lilja, Krieger, Shilen select match, ect barrel I put on a rifle action can shoot better than I can.
So in my case there is no room for improvement, so I don't bother.
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