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There is no complex relationship. It is an outdated one. A situation which is slowly going away.

You are attempting to introduce two extraneous points into the discussion. The first is the west. How the west thinks has nothing to do with the monarchy.

The second is "royal proclamation".

The original question, what is the relationship between Canada and England, can be answered simply.

The relationship between the two is good, but the monarchy is on the way out.

Your point of view is precisely the problem, you don't see it outside your own Province, which makes you sound like a conceded prick, which you likely are.
You can't change history, the relationship between Canada and England is complex, Canada's relationship with France is a simple one.

The question concerned the whole country - not just BC or Ontario. The question asked about the relationship between the two countries - not England and BC, or England and Ontario, or BC and Ontario. It doesn't matter where we live.

I was a member of a crown police force within the province of Ontario. Not all police forces in
Canada are "Crown Forces." The RCMP is another one. Not a big deal. Our patrol cars were registered to Her Majesty the Queen in the right of the province of Ontario. Maybe the insurance was cheaper.

I tried to participate in your thread, sorry if it didn't fit your narrative. I answered as honestly as I could by simply pointing out the differing relationships and viewpoints from within the Dominion.....carry on.

We joke about the Toronto centric view, but there is more than a little truth to it. There are regional differences, such as, all Canadians are good at partying, the Maritimers are very good at it. I'm from BC and I say that.

There is no doubt that regions of the country have their differences. But any regional differences have no bearing on the question,

"What's the relation between Canada and England?"

There might be regions that like or dislike England, but the relationship between the two countries is a good one. Where the arguments start is with the royals.

No doubt, Quebec is probably not happy with the UK. I cannot speak for southern Ontario, but northerners don't particularly worry about the UK.

I don't care about what Toronto thinks.

The East seems to like royalty and the UK more than the west. The country as a whole has a good relationship with England, but as the years go by, fewer people care about the royals.

Debate on the monarchy in Canada

It seems support continues to erode for the royals in Canada. This has little to do with the relationship between Canada and England, but inevitably, when Canadians talk about England, they talk about the royals.

From the above link

2020
In a poll conducted in February 2020 by Research Co., 32% of Canadians (down one point since 2019) would prefer for Canada to have an elected head of state, while 27% (down four points) would rather keep the monarchy. The proportion of Canadians who say they do not care either way increased by eight points to 28%'.

Conceded or conceited? If you don't know English consult a dictionary. Or be quiet. Notice I didn't say quite? But Be Well, I guess I'm conceited, RZ.

Historically, you folks fought to sever ties to The Crown whereas we chose to be United Empire Loyalists.

What may not be so well known is that there were plenty of United Empire Loyalists in the USA in revolutionary times, too. Daniel Boone and family, being English, having some strong leanings in this direction, if i recall correctly. And taking some community heat for the fact.

Our loyalty to England may in fact have much to do with our reputation for being level-headed and mannerly compared to the USA, generally speaking. In fact i heard it explained somewhere that the regions of the USA itself that do have a reputation for good manners (the traditional South for instance) can thank their largely English regional heritage for this. And that the contrasting brash rudeness that may prevail elsewhere and which the USA has a reputation for internationally is to be blamed on the Germans who dominated in these other regions.

Before I retired, I travelled widely in Canada on business. A couple of observations:

Signs in BC are bilingual. Signs in Quebec are in French only.

The Quebecois were always friendly toward me.

The Royal family: I don't understand why even the UK supports the Royal family. All the ones younger than Elizabeth and Philip act like trash.

Americans by and large are ignorant of Canada. A favorite trick is to ask an American what is the capital of Canada. 99% can't tell you. From our news reporting, you'd think that Lake Erie was the Arctic Ocean, with nothing on the northern side.

From what I can tell, Justin Trudeau is a worse jerk than Obama. That's sad because I always thought Canada was sort of a brake on what we did down here foolishly. For instance, you were smart enough to not get caught in the Viet Nam tar baby.

You've got something great up there, maybe, in part, because you're not as crowded as we are. Just don't blow it.

The French are not the only socialists here in Canada. The bloody country is full of them, mostly city dwellers who command the vote and thus the elections.

To imply to any Acadian from NB that they are Quebecois or even close is a huge insult. Most Acadians have a strong disdain for the those folk.

Me too.

Trade and political relations will stay the same, or may even improve, once the UK tosses the monarchy.

According to Cdn polling, the monarchy is a devolving situation here. And we have Justin, so we have more pressing problems. The UK too has more pressing problems. With Brexit looming, and the ongoing trade problems associated with it, the monarchy is of little concern right now.

I honestly believe that Harry and the rest of the royals figured that Canada would foot the security bill for them. They quickly learned that the word was no, you can pay for your own. Vancouver Island really wasn't the place for those two anyway. I was glad to see them bugger off to the States. You never know, some crackhead might take a shot at one or both of them.

Actually, I believe Harry is henpecked. Meghan wanted to go home to the US and got her way. She's a California girl, I think. We know that Harry won't be king. He's sixth in line and the odds of him being called up are slim. I doubt he wants to sit on the throne anyway. The only thing that might be of interest is if they divorce.

In some respects, this is playing out much like what happened to his great grand uncle, the Duke of Wind-Sore.

I don't wish him or Meghan any ill will. In the end, if he can settle in and live the life of a commoner, albeit a privileged one, things might work out. I suspect that if and when the divorce happens, he will move home, and hang with his brother Wills and their old friends.

Never happen..

i do believe that there was no small number of loyalists in the colonies who later became loyalists populating Canada

By any interpretation i think that is a gross misunderstanding. Very liberal up there, reflected by election outcomes, with the possible exception of Stephen Harper, a few others.

sse;
Good evening and Happy New Year to you sir, I hope that the day treated you acceptably and you and those who matter in your world are well.

With the understanding that I'm not attempting to argue the point that we're overpopulated with left leaning individuals up here, I'd perhaps offer a few clarifications as to why the election outcomes up here don't really reflect what you think they might.

The country is set up with regional ridings, which are as you'll soon see the size of which are hotly contested. What the current system ends up doing is having for instance the lesser populated but still politically powerful Atlantic provinces have more seats in parliament and ridings than we do out west.

One western MP put it this way, one vote in Prince Edward Island is worth 4 votes in Saskatchewan, Alberta or BC..... neat, eh?

Up until the beer flu hit us, BC had a larger GDP than all of the Atlantic Provinces combined, but are still viewed as a "have" province and so pay into the federal transfer tax system and don't receive like they do way out on the east coast.

Then there's the multi party system we've got, where the Parti Quebecois - whose sole purpose is to take Quebec out of Confederation and bleed as much federal transfer money out of the rest of Canada in the meantime, are given national political party status even though they're a strictly regional party. There is then the Progressive Conservative party - Stephen Harper's - the Liberals and the New Democratic Party which are in a full on race for most woke and left leaning and in some areas such as Vancouver Island the Green Party has made inroads.

When current Prince Sparkle Socks was recently elected, he got only 33.12% of the popular vote, while the leader of the PC's got 34.3%, but wasn't able to form a government because the NDP formed a bit of a coalition with the Crown Prince - bringing their 15.9% of the vote along with them.

Please note that as far as I can recall, there were no - that is none, zero, zip - Liberal MLA's elected west of Manitoba..... neat once again, eh?

Anyways, I share all this not to send sour or any other grapes out into the ether space. Rather sir, my wish is to make the point that Canadian election results and the comparative liberal or left leaning tendencies of Canadians aren't necessarily related.

Thanks for reading this far and all the best to you in 2021.

Dwayne

You've more patience than I, Dwayne. I have no time for trolls. You are wasting your breath.

Thanks, Dwayne, and greetings to you, as well. I’ll defer to your considered explanation on the point of conclusions drawn from a given election result, most enlightening.

When I lived in Ontario, the overwhelming feedback toward the US was anti-Republican/conservatism, if not veiled anti-American. Time spent in the west has been simply as a tourist.

This last election cycle in the US saw quite a bit of the same coming from Canadian news outlets, media, and social media, at times quite vitriolic against Trump. I understand the same sentiment is less common in the west, but one could not tell that from how the state of Canadian politics is portrayed south of the border.