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God, if one exists, could clear up all matters of theology in an instant.
What we do have is human belief, what people say, what people argue over.....and have for centuries, meanwhile living their lives according to their own values.
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the same legal means of wealth protection, transfer, can be done by other legal avenues such as corporations in there various forms, foundations etc.
to use a term civil marriage as a legal context is pure chicken [bleep].
same sex situations already have these avenues open to them
it's the age old battle of separation of church and state.
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the same legal means of wealth protection, transfer, can be done by other legal avenues such as corporations in there various forms, foundations etc.
to use a term civil marriage as a legal context is pure chicken [bleep].
same sex situations already have these avenues open to them
it's the age old battle of separation of church and state. Etoh, you’re exactly right but the bigger outstanding issue for them is health insurance especially if they work for a company or institution that provides health insurance. That’s the crux of what the Pope was referring to with, what he called, “need for civil law to cover them as in a family/dependent unit“, thus affording the same sexers with access to that need. Like you and others have pointed out, all the rest is available to anyone. I’ve gotta say, like it or not, the man made quite a bold proclamation for someone in his position.
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"The Lord works in mysterious ways"
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thats a problem with health care system not the church-state argument.
bold but no where near "kill them all and let God sort them out"
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Some disingenuous ‘Christians’ cherry-pick which sins they are gonna take a stand against. If one is prejudiced, or despises, or hates someone else for whatever reason...that's their business. Especially when they're honest enough to admit that that's what it is. At least they're honest about it. Some disingenuous 'Christians' use the Bible to justify their prejudice and hatred of certain others...hidin' behind the shield of Christianity and doin' the exact opposite of what Jesus Himself would do...and taught.
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We needed a Christian thread.
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Some disingenuous ‘Christians’ cherry-pick which sins they are gonna take a stand against. If one is prejudiced, or despises, or hates someone else for whatever reason...that's their business. Especially when they're honest enough to admit that that's what it is. At least they're honest about it. Some disingenuous 'Christians' use the Bible to justify their prejudice and hatred of certain others...hidin' behind the shield of Christianity and doin' the exact opposite of what Jesus Himself would do...and taught. Bible, Koran or Torah, what you described is simply ‘the human condition ‘. This ain’t peculiar only to Chr*stians.
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We needed a Christian thread. Used to have a thread called “ Chr*st at The Campfire “. You ain’t never seen such vitriol and bitch slappin going on. Rick wisely shut it down.
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God judges entire countries, not just people. This country is fallen into gross sin with queer marriages and abortion. Judgement is coming. I can't even guess when. His time isn't our time. When God was talking to Abraham before the Israelites went to Egypt, he said the Canaanites' sin wasn't full yet. God gave them another 500 years to clean up their act before he sent in 2 million Jews to deal with them. He gave Rome until 500AD before he destroyed them. He gave Israel a couple centuries before he sent in the Assyrians and the Babylonians to deal with them, then another 400 years before he let Rome settle them for 2 millenia. He does give them plenty of warning, though. Each of those countries killed God's messengers. It's coming here sooner or later. I agree. God will not be mocked.
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I'll paraphrase Bobby Bare, "May God Bless America Again".
Canada as well.
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We needed a Christian thread. Catholics are Christians.
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There are no levels of sin. It’s likely pointless to try and list sins according to their degree of seriousness. “For the wages of sin is death...” (Romans 6:23), applies to ALL sin, whether in thought, word, or deed. In ‘that’ sense, all sins are equal in that they ALL separate us from God. Telling your wife she doesn't look fat in that dress is the same as raping an murdering your own daughter? That's non-sense. Lying is a sin, and separates us from God. Murder is a sin, and separates us from God. In ‘that’ context, both of those sins separate us from God. Sin separates us from God. Period. ‘That’ is the point. Since all sin is equivalent, all laws should have the same penalty, 5 Hail Mary's, a 25 dollar fine, followed by death by stoning.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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I'll paraphrase Bobby Bare, "May God Bless America Again".
Canada as well. Well,,,,if you're working both sides of the border,,,, Grins No country was ever more blessed with a good neighbor than we are by having Canada as one.
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DBT, I did not say they are not.
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DBT, I did not say they are not.
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There are no levels of sin. It’s likely pointless to try and list sins according to their degree of seriousness. “For the wages of sin is death...” (Romans 6:23), applies to ALL sin, whether in thought, word, or deed. In ‘that’ sense, all sins are equal in that they ALL separate us from God. Telling your wife she doesn't look fat in that dress is the same as raping an murdering your own daughter? That's non-sense. Lying is a sin, and separates us from God. Murder is a sin, and separates us from God. In ‘that’ context, both of those sins separate us from God. Sin separates us from God. Period. ‘That’ is the point. Since all sin is equivalent, all laws should have the same penalty, 5 Hail Mary's, a 25 dollar fine, followed by death by stoning. Damn, you made me laugh out loud !
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
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We needed a Christian thread. Used to have a thread called “ Chr*st at The Campfire “. You ain’t never seen such vitriol and bitch slappin going on. lol I’ve heard about that. Seems like there’s no problem for “such vitriol and bitch slappin going on” to occur on the Hunter’s Campfire or other forums here though.
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Since all sin is equivalent, all laws should have the same penalty, 5 Hail Mary's, a 25 dollar fine, followed by death by stoning. All sins are equivalent ’in the sense’ that they ALL separate us from God. ’That’ is the point that has been made.
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Indeed, "Sin separates man from God"
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