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Started with 4064 then went with Varget. I use them on 243, 260, 308, and 358 Winchesters. Others have worked but I can usually get Varget. Be Well, RZ.
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As you can see...lots of good choices for the unfinicky .308 Win.
Interestingly...I never had a .308 that loved Varget. For me R-15 is the go to. Another not mentioned here that I can see that works well and one I shoot...is AA-2230.
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A lot of guys settle on Varget without trying others out. I personally never found the accuracy I wanted until switching to RL15 and AR Comp. YMMV. .... That has been in every 308 I've owned, both bolt guns and AR10. However, I will say that I handloaded for one of my buddies rifles and his loved Varget, so it pays to try different powders. Don't get stuck on one thinking it's the "best" when there are others out there that are better in your particular rifle... Fully agree, even when I've used powders for years in a rifle I don't stop looking for other options that may be even better.
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You guys check supplies lately.?
I'm going to use 7828 in everything i reload for this winter, if I can get around to reloading anything. I'll start with the 260 and 243, I guess..
It's what I have, and there ain't anything at all out there on the shelves!
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During my travels with the .308 Winchester I have used H4895 and Varget. When my supply of Varget is gone I'm planning to use TAC. Based on future component availability, going to give IMR 4166 some serious consideration.
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I have a new 308 Montana XAR on its way right now and the 308 is a cartridge I havent used that much. What is the best all around powder for the 308? I have a feeling reloading supplies are going to get hard to find. I found a deal on some Speer Hot cores in 150 grain so bought a bunch of those, but will switch to 180 grain bullets eventually. Anyone used the 150 hot cores on big game like moose ? My last 2 have done their best work with RL 15 and 165 grain accubonds. Other powders weren't bad but RL 15 stood out as a clear best. It also works very well in my current rifle with the protected point version of the 180 grain partition. Tom
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IMR -4064. usually works, H-4895, Varget. in that order... any of those withe a Sierra 150 BT. or FB . If that combo does not shoot... something is wrong in the gun...But what the hell do i know.. only been reloading for 42 years. most likley for over 25-30 .308 rifles...don’t recall not finding accuracy with some combo in there.
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3031, 4895, 4320 and 4064.
H4895, Varget
RL 15, RL 17
748
AA2520
Have used all in 308 with 125-175gr. bullets.
They all shot well and the rifles are generally more hung up on the bullet than the powders used.
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The real question is what is a bad powder for a 308. It is rather easy to find a powder to give decent accuracy. Today, the bigger issue is availability.
I have used 3031, 4895, and Varget. I have used Ball C2, W-748, I-4064 and REL-15. Of those I had consistently poor performance with W-748. In thinking of it, I am not sure why I quit using Ball C-2. I used it exclusively in .300 Savage and .308 Winchester for around 8 years. If I ever run low on REL-15 I suppose I better try some Varget.
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Interesting that W748 didn't work for you but BL-C2 did. Do you have any ideas about why?
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Well it probably ain't H4895 but that's what I have so that will be combined with 150 NBT's to make food for the model 70 Featherweight
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I use it under the 150 grain Ballistic Tip for a great deer load.
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