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I used my handload data for my .280, since that is what I shoot.
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Hottest load shown on hog Don powder site for the PRC is 2980 and next is 2950 ish. What are you loading in yours Alf to get that velocity? Edk
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It is no secret the SAAMI spec for the 280 is low because Remington specs were low for their 742 autoloader which made absolutely no sense because they also chambered 270 and 06 in them.
So it is no trick to load the 280 to 270 or 308 pressures and get a nice little boost in velocity.
The 6.5 PRC is basicly a 6.5 06 in capacity. Factory spec are about 2950 or so with a 140 . Factories are not underloading this. Only way to achieve 3100 with a 140 grain slug is to push pressures, gotta be 70,000 psi + to get those speeds.
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The 6.5 PRC is basicly a 6.5 06 in capacity. Factory spec are about 2950 or so with a 140 . Factories are not underloading this. Only way to achieve 3100 with a 140 grain slug is to push pressures, gotta be 70,000 psi + to get those speeds. Better get ahold of Hornady before someone blows themselves up: https://press.hornady.com/assets/site/hornady/files/load-data/6.5-prc-v2.pdf
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26 inch barrel vs 24 for starters. If such lofty speeds are possible, why are the factory loads throttled down to mid 2900's?
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26 inch barrel vs 24 for starters. If such lofty speeds are possible, why are the factory loads throttled down to mid 2900's? Top loads are 3150, take off 50 fps for the two inches, you're at 3100. You'll have to ask them, I'm not their spokesman.
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MD...anyone. Could you look into your crystal ball and see when or where I might find some 6.5 PRC brass.
My two PRC riles are starving for some brass.
Lefty Take a look in the classifieds, some just showed up there. Not mine btw. brass
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Guarantee the loss is more than 25 fps per inch on this combo.
I have been reloading for over 35 years. Bought my first chronograph over 30 years ago. In all that time I have had ONE, repeat ONE time I got close to the "book" speed listed in the manual. That covers over 12 different calibers, numerous rifles and bullet weights in said calibers. Average speeds when run over the lie'ometer was between 75-150 fps LESS than the "book"
YMMV but I would have to see this scenario verified to believe it.
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Well laa-dee-daa......
I've shooting and reloading longer than that, and bought my first chrono back in the early 80's, an Oehler 33, that I still use to this day.
Had my first 6PPC Benchrest rifle built in 1988 for point blank BR, added Hunter BR to the mix for over 20 years, and have thrown in 600/1000 yard Benchrest for another 20 more. And I've set numerous range and 3 world records at 1K.
I've also have built two 6.5 PRC's, so I'm not talking out my ass.......
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Guarantee the loss is more than 25 fps per inch on this combo.
Why?
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Guarantee the loss is more than 25 fps per inch on this combo.
I’ll bet it’s pretty close Sisk Testing
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Why would any dude want a PRC that small?
I am..........disturbed.
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Guarantee the loss is more than 25 fps per inch on this combo.
Why? Because I have had 3 rifle barrels shortened, 2 inches, a 270, 308 and 338 mag. The 270 lost something like 70 fps, 308 was about 40, 338 mag was like 60.
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Well laa-dee-daa......
I've shooting and reloading longer than that, and bought my first chrono back in the early 80's, an Oehler 33, that I still use to this day.
Had my first 6PPC Benchrest rifle built in 1988 for point blank BR, added Hunter BR to the mix for over 20 years, and have thrown in 600/1000 yard Benchrest for another 20 more. And I've set numerous range and 3 world records at 1K.
I've also have built two 6.5 PRC's, so I'm not talking out my ass.......
Well I'm impressed........... Glad to hear of your accomplishments and see you are so humble. Like I said, YMMV. Happy Thanksgiving.
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Guarantee the loss is more than 25 fps per inch on this combo.
Why? Because I have had 3 rifle barrels shortened, 2 inches, a 270, 308 and 338 mag. The 270 lost something like 70 fps, 308 was about 40, 338 mag was like 60. Are those FPS figure per inch or total?
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6.5 prc is here to stay. Bet on it.👍
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Well laa-dee-daa......
I've shooting and reloading longer than that, and bought my first chrono back in the early 80's, an Oehler 33, that I still use to this day.
Had my first 6PPC Benchrest rifle built in 1988 for point blank BR, added Hunter BR to the mix for over 20 years, and have thrown in 600/1000 yard Benchrest for another 20 more. And I've set numerous range and 3 world records at 1K.
I've also have built two 6.5 PRC's, so I'm not talking out my ass.......
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Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
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But have you shot the famed, be all, end all, 24 Hour Campfire MOA all day long challenge?
Well laa-dee-daa......
I've shooting and reloading longer than that, and bought my first chrono back in the early 80's, an Oehler 33, that I still use to this day.
Had my first 6PPC Benchrest rifle built in 1988 for point blank BR, added Hunter BR to the mix for over 20 years, and have thrown in 600/1000 yard Benchrest for another 20 more. And I've set numerous range and 3 world records at 1K.
I've also have built two 6.5 PRC's, so I'm not talking out my ass.......
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Well laa-dee-daa......
I've shooting and reloading longer than that, and bought my first chrono back in the early 80's, an Oehler 33, that I still use to this day.
Had my first 6PPC Benchrest rifle built in 1988 for point blank BR, added Hunter BR to the mix for over 20 years, and have thrown in 600/1000 yard Benchrest for another 20 more. And I've set numerous range and 3 world records at 1K.
I've also have built two 6.5 PRC's, so I'm not talking out my ass.......
But have you shot the famed, be all, end all, 24 Hour Campfire MOA all day long challenge? I don't fiddle around with that close range stuff anymore, I start at 600 now.... 
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Get back to us when you’ve graduated to the challenge.
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